Do you think the Iona Institute are homophobic?

Obliq wrote: »

Y-fronts are not pretty, but can be accommodated if taken off quickly.
Hmm. I'll have to think about that.

As for opinionated3 - my dear, male or female, I think that your problematic disgust for anal sex is a pity. If that is all that is standing in the way of you potentially accepting your potential children potentially having gay sex and potentially wanting to marry a man/woman of the same gender, I'm thinking you don't have to worry about that yet. And your vote, in your capacity to decide for other people, doesn't have to hinge on your potential feelings for your future kids potential hardship/sexual orientation.


In other words, don't sweat it. You're not there yet, and perhaps you shouldn't be in the business of denying other people rights that you haven't fully worked through yet, in yourself. Be cool to yourself - everyone in Ireland is forgiven for being homophobic

A good read: http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2014/01/30/what_is_homophobia_why_straight_men_are_right_to_be_afraid_of_homosexuality.html

opinionated3 wrote: »

I treat everyone with respect as long as it's reciprocated. That goes for straight and gay alike. I have yet to make my mind up on the referendum. I will certainly be giving it a lot of thought. If it was to lead to gay couples being allowed to adopt then my vote would be no...

floggg wrote: »

Is there a particular reason why you are against gay adoption?

Do you know that all research in the area shows that gay people are just as good parents, and that children raised by gay parents do just as well as those raised by straight parents.

Sarky wrote: »

You make it someone else's issue when you don't support them. Imagine not being there for your kid on one of the happiest days of their lives. Whether you like it or not, you've tainted that day for them.

Nobody's comfortable taking a good look at themselves, we can always see something in the mirror we wish wasn't there. But it's something that must be done if we want to improve ourselves. You can continue being disgusted by other peoples' happiness just because they're gay, or you can work on that hang-up until you see two men kissing and find yourself smiling and thinking "Aw, that's nice, they're happy."

opinionated3 wrote: »

You're reading too much into the sex part of this conversation. It's just one aspect of the gay world that we are discussing here.

sarkozy wrote: »

Ugh, you know. I don't care about your views. If these are the opinions you hold dear, whether out of conviction or arrogance or stubbornness, and you will not change your mind, then you will simply have to take full responsibility for the hurt you may cause in others' lives and your own. It's a selfish attitude on your part, and you'll just have to live with the difficulties that such attitudes and actions may visit on you in the future.

Of course, I hope you open your mind to reality because the more that people do, the more accepting and liberal Ireland becomes.

It's not that long since women who had children out of wedlock (consensually or through sexual violence) were locked up in Magdelene Laundries and their children shopped out to families at home and abroad, all under a Catholic Church-dominated veil of secrecy. These women were ostracised from their families and communities, their lives destroyed because these women had 'lose morals'. But these attitudes have changed as we've seen how unacceptable such abuse of other human beings really is.

The same sick moralising is going on in regard to gay people and, shock horror, the view of the majority of people in Ireland to guarantee the real equality of all people.

But, you know, homophobiaphopic - I'm uncomfortable with people who are homophobic - and I'm completely within my rights to ostracise these people from my life.

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Well, My big gay world right now consists to chatting to you on a discussion forum while promising myself I will quit the fags (har har ) and wondering if I have a cup of coffee will it keep me awake all night.

Tomorrow I am going to do some work and then walk my dogs (the males seem to be bisexuals and the females will take the head off any gender that tries it so the jury is out as to their Big Gayness) and then go the big gay chemist to get my big gay drugs that stop big gay diabetes from making me an ex-gay on account of being dead and then I am going to do my big gay shop in Aldi.

Later I will make my big gay girlfriend a big gay dinner as she can't boil an egg. Then we will watch the last episodes of The Bridge.
The next day my Grand children will come to stay for the weekend. I don't know if either of them will grow up to be Big Gays as they are only aged 7 and 4 but I am hoping the girl will be a scientist as she has a flair for it and the boy is very interested in cooking but I hope he isn't a chef as that is a crap job.

opinionated3 wrote: »

Just believe that a child is best served with a male and female parenting influence. Every effort should be made to keep it like this

opinionated3 wrote: »

Well am I within my rights to completely ostracise certain people from my life? Double standard there no???

iwantmydinner wrote: »

There's nothing fair about your view and/or treatment of LGBT people and their rights.

Won't you even allow yourself the chance to open your mind?

Kiwi in IE wrote: »

You may very well be an 'ex gay' on account of being dead sooner than you imagine if you continue to refer to OH as a BIG gay girlfriend.