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Is Hurling the greatest game ever?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Wilfork wrote: »
    American football is hands down the greatest game ever

    Is American Football the ball throwing bit that uintermnittently breaks out during the advertising and songs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Wilfork wrote: »
    American football is hands down the greatest game ever

    hahahah good one


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,969 ✭✭✭buck65


    Hurling is the best game in the world, but just the same you can see very poor hurling games especially at club level. but last years Ch'ship was fantastic. As a Clare man it was a super autumn for us but the Dubs Cork and Limerick added to a fantastic season.

    Rugby is also a great game as is chess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Yes. More exciting matches than any other sport. I've got a load of foreigners obsessed with it after seeing one match. The speed of it catches people off guard initially but the skill involved keeps them gripped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    The skill level required to play hurling is massively overstated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Jimoslimos wrote: »

    Wasn't baseball originally an English sport?!

    I haven't looked into it but I think so. It would explain rounders anyway.
    It just goes to show that you can't really tie sports to nationality too much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 ✭✭✭force eleven


    The skill level required to play hurling is massively overstated.

    *Lobs that grenade in the direction of Kilkenny*....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Halloween Jack


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Football is too skilful to someone who has never kicked a ball. Hurling requires every player to have a very specific shaped stick, no as readily available as a pair of legs.



    Football spread hugely because of colonists such as the British Empire, would be very difficult to emulate that in this day and age.


    Maybe, although I would say that idea was more to do with preserving the pool of players they had, rather than trying to stop it spreading over seas. Still wouldn't be anywhere near as popular as soccer.

    Not too sure about that bit tbh honest. If football spread due to colonialism surely india, australia, America etc would be giants of the game?

    Also football oonly really got going in the late 19th century when a lot of european colonies, in say latin america were gone.

    Football spread to other countries through british expats forming clubs in other countries, mainly in europe, no doubt expats also set up cricket clubs and bowls clubs and rugby clubs etc.

    The reason football became popular in these places was because the locals loved the game itself.

    In comparison, Irish expats have set up GAA clubs in every corner of the globe yet the game abroad seems to be the exclusive preserve of the expat community, food for thought?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 519 ✭✭✭thecatspjs


    'I think something is great. Therefore it's the best and all arguments to the contrary are invalid because I say so.'

    How difficult is it for some people to grasp that others like different things for different reasons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    No.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    The skill level required to play hurling is massively overstated.

    I'm not a fan of the GAA but that is wrong. The speed at which it's played; the size of the ball and the fact that the ball is played off the ground to hand/hurley. It's a very hard game to master I would say.

    Gaelic football to me would be the one where skill is somewhat secondary to power and strength.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,245 ✭✭✭✭cena


    Only gaa people well think its the best sport


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Not too sure about that bit tbh honest. If football spread due to colonialism surely india, australia, America etc would be giants of the game?

    Also football oonly really got going in the late 19th century when a lot of european colonies, in say latin america were gone.

    Football spread to other countries through british expats forming clubs in other countries, mainly in europe, no doubt expats also set up cricket clubs and bowls clubs and rugby clubs etc.

    The reason football became popular in these places was because the locals loved the game itself.

    In comparison, Irish expats have set up GAA clubs in every corner of the globe yet the game abroad seems to be the exclusive preserve of the expat community, food for thought?

    India and Australia both play cricket, which are games from the colonists. America was quite a bit different as it wasn't colonised by the British solely for such extended periods as other places.

    Expats are usually in places as a hangover from colonists. Look at most of the white people in South Africa today and in South America, etc...

    But I agree, the game was also loved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭Halloween Jack


    Ush1 wrote: »
    India and Australia both play cricket, which are games from the colonists. America was quite a bit different as it wasn't colonised by the British solely for such extended periods as other places.

    Expats are usually in places as a hangover from colonists. Look at most of the white people in South Africa today and in South America, etc...

    But I agree, the game was also loved.


    Yep, the spread of cricket could certainly be explained along colonial lines, but neither of the countries play football.

    There is no legitimate connection between football and british colonialism. You could maybe try and argue the case in africa, but african football only took off in the post colonial era and a lot of the stronger african sides were colonised by other countries.

    Football spread primarily to countries which britain had never colonised, italy, spain, hungary, germany sweden, brazil etc.

    The reason it took off, rather than some of their other games, was the strngth of the game itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    With the aid of €114m of government funding over the years.

    And far superior in your opinion.

    The Aviva got a fair chunk as well, though people would have got over the funding thing by now.

    I'd say it's one of the most exciting games all right, it's a joy to watch when played at the highest level.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    Connect Four.

    Everyone loves Connect Four.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 265 ✭✭lazza14


    The most skilled sport in the world is tennis.

    No question.

    No contest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    I wouldn't say it is the greatest game ever, but a good even hurling match kicks the ar*e out of most other games that are evenly contested.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Yep, the spread of cricket could certainly be explained along colonial lines, but neither of the countries play football.

    There is no legitimate connection between football and british colonialism. You could maybe try and argue the case in africa, but african football only took off in the post colonial era and a lot of the stronger african sides were colonised by other countries.

    Football spread primarily to countries which britain had never colonised, italy, spain, hungary, germany sweden, brazil etc.

    The reason it took off, rather than some of their other games, was the strngth of the game itself.
    While you're correct in the non colonial spread to an extent, it was british merchants that brought the game to most of these countires and founded their original clubs. As well as missionaries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,313 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    blue-army wrote: »

    Another reason I reckon soccer is the greatest game ever is that anybody can beat anyone.
    Upsets are very, very rare in GAA. However in soccer there's massive upsets almost every season. Wigan winning last seasons FA Cup, Greece winning the European Championships etc. You don't get that kind of excitement in other sports.

    Plenty of upsets in GAA, sure last year Clare came from relatively nowhere to win it, Dublin beat Kilkenny in the hurling as well, Monaghan beat Donegal in football, London got to a Connacht final.

    I'm sorry but your reasoning is critically flawed! You are guaranteed a few shocks every year in GAA.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,226 ✭✭✭angelfire9


    blue-army wrote: »
    I also don't think the skill level involved is any higher than other sports.


    Upsets are very, very rare in GAA.

    Did you watch ANY of the 2013 games?

    Upsets all over the place
    The odds of a Clare Cork all Ireland were minuscule
    The chance of an AI replay even less
    Semi finals and no Kilkenny
    Limerick winning Munster
    Dublin in Leinster
    Galway falling apart
    Cork under new management were expected to take 12+ months to regroup
    Clare were judged to be too young to be serious contenders

    ;)
    As for the skill level, take yourself on to YouTube
    Look for hurling highlights 2013 and tell me you see that kind of skill anywhere else?
    Thinking particularly of Podge Collins' point v Galway and Tony Kelly's fancy footwork in the Limerick game both of which I was lucky to witness first hand

    Not skillful... Bah humbug


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 358 ✭✭WellThen?


    It's the most exciting game I have ever watched hands down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,154 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Hurling is so great even half of Ireland don't bother with it. People laugh at rugby for having 10 countries that take it serious. Hurling has 10 counties.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭recylingbin


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Hurling is so great even half of Ireland don't bother with it. People laugh at rugby for having 10 countries that take it serious. Hurling has 10 counties.
    Name the ten countries please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    To master any sport at the top level takes a huge amount of skill, be it hurling, soccer, baseball, golf etc etc.

    Some sports imo are easier to throw your hand at than others, its easier kick a football around than have a puck around in hurling.

    There is no 'greatest sport'. It's an entirely subjective argument. Just because a sport is played by millions doesn't make it the greatest. Popularity doesnt always equate to greatness. For me, hurling is definitely my favourite sport to watch, when its played well there's nothing to compare.
    However when other sports are played to their peak, I can see why fans of those sports would claim their chosen passion as the 'greatest'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    anncoates wrote: »
    I'm not a fan of the GAA but that is wrong. The speed at which it's played; the size of the ball and the fact that the ball is played off the ground to hand/hurley. It's a very hard game to master I would say.

    Gaelic football to me would be the one where skill is somewhat secondary to power and strength.

    Just speaking from experience as a competent hurler. It looks much more impressive than it actually is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    Name the ten countries please.

    Ireland, England, Scotland, France, Wales, Italy, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia & Argentina


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 153 ✭✭TheMza


    Hardly!
    I'm not ragging on hurling, but football is the greatest game ever, hands down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,952 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    Greatest sport has already been posted.

    Its faster and more skillfull than Hurling, but then it did come from Irish Service men playing Hurling on the Ice in Canada.

    Ice Hockey

    ******



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    K-9 wrote: »
    Plenty of upsets in GAA, sure last year Clare came from relatively nowhere to win it, Dublin beat Kilkenny in the hurling as well, Monaghan beat Donegal in football, London got to a Connacht final.

    I'm sorry but your reasoning is critically flawed! You are guaranteed a few shocks every year in GAA.

    Yeah, but every time you get a 'shock', you give the seeded team another go. That's not real competition. The GAA shlt themselves every year that the big counties might go out early leaving little or no interest for the rest of the season. That's why the sport will never develop in Counties that are not already up there at the top.


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