Denny's Factory Site in Tralee Town Centre

Jimmyireland · 03-02-2014 11:56pm #1

Sound gesture by Kerry Group tonight. Handing over the site of the old Denny's Factory (circa 4 acres) to the Tralee Town Council for the people of Tralee.

Kerrydude1981 · 03-02-2014 11:57pm

Jimmyireland wrote: »

Sound gesture by Kerry Group tonight. Handing over the site of the old Denny's Factory (circa 4 acres) to the Tralee Town Council for the people of Tralee.

Be interesting to see what will be done with that site.

Molester Stallone · 04-02-2014 12:35am

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Be interesting to see what will be done with that site.

Free carpark!

Bactidiaryl · 04-02-2014 1:10am

Molester Stallone wrote: »

Free carpark!

I hope to think they would use it to better affect. There is huge potential there to increase the size of the town centre area with this addition. Also tying in with this, are the Garda moving to ballymullen or will it be just partly and keeping a smaller barracks in town centre?

delthedriver · 04-02-2014 1:16am

Bactidiaryl wrote: »

I hope to think they would use it to better affect. There is huge potential there to increase the size of the town centre area with this addition. Also tying in with this, are the Garda moving to ballymullen or will it be just partly and keeping a smaller barracks in town centre?

Interesting, what would you put in the town centre? More shops? Tralee is doing very well to fill the vacant units. It is a generous move on the part of Kerry Group. The idea of a free car park may not be such a bad idea. It would put Town Centre businesses on an equal playing field with Manor.

michael999999 · 04-02-2014 8:46am

delthedriver wrote: »

Interesting, what would you put in the town centre? More shops? Tralee is doing very well to fill the vacant units. It is a generous move on the part of Kerry Group. The idea of a free car park may not be such a bad idea. It would put Town Centre businesses on an equal playing field with Manor.

As long as they don't just put hoarding around it and leave it to rot for ten years.

kn · 04-02-2014 11:08am

Molester Stallone wrote: »

Free carpark!

I nominate Molester Stallone as the new definition of an optimist!!

Considering the site I wonder if its not the ideal location for the new Court and Garda station that are being muted for Dan Spring road.

delthedriver · 04-02-2014 3:05pm

kn wrote: »

I nominate Molester Stallone as the new definition of an optimist!!

Considering the site I wonder if its not the ideal location for the new Court and Garda station that are being muted for Dan Spring road.

Are there funds to build a new Garda Station and additional Courthouse?

Have the Town Council funds to look after and develop the site?

Whilst is is nice of Kerry Group to hand over the site unless the Council can develop it , really it could simply become another vacant site.

Clab mor · 04-02-2014 7:40pm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Be interesting to see what will be done with that site.

Marks and Spencer's perhaps !!!!!! ; )

Bactidiaryl · 04-02-2014 7:42pm

delthedriver wrote: »

Interesting, what would you put in the town centre? More shops? Tralee is doing very well to fill the vacant units. It is a generous move on the part of Kerry Group. The idea of a free car park may not be such a bad idea. It would put Town Centre businesses on an equal playing field with Manor.

I think it would be a waste of a great donated resource just to cover it in tar and use it as a car park. There's already ample enough parking in Tralee town centre and reasonably priced too. It has the potential to open up the town centre on the western side in a variety of different options. So thinking caps on boardies.

cute geoge · 04-02-2014 8:34pm

Kerrydude1981 wrote: »

Be interesting to see what will be done with that site.

Would it be good idea to widen road between barracks and denny's .
Then the lane along side shaws where old council toilets were if this could be widened to a street [shindig being a casualty] and joined up with the widened road above this would really open up the town.
I think this brainwave will take batin

stop animal cruelty · 04-02-2014 8:50pm

Jimmyireland wrote: »

Sound gesture by Kerry Group tonight. Handing over the site of the old Denny's Factory (circa 4 acres) to the Tralee Town Council for the people of Tralee.

is that near the dog pound?

Bactidiaryl · 04-02-2014 11:06pm

stop animal cruelty wrote: »

is that near the dog pound?

Yes. On the other side of the lane way. I take it your familiar with the dog pound given your username.

michael999999 · 04-02-2014 11:19pm

stop animal cruelty wrote: »

is that near the dog pound?

Its a wonder they never joined up!

kimbaines · 05-02-2014 11:22am

The Denny Site should be used in the most effective way to create more jobs for the town. Can we put another tech hub in there? The Kerry Tech Park is full and needs to be expanded. I know there are some employees there who would love to work in the town centre. A major employer in this site would provide the boost that the centre needs. We have a huge amount of cafes and lunch options in the town and the trade passed on to these alone would be a huge plus.
Putting in another Car par will only spread the existing load. To think the Council would provide this free of charge after paying out for demolition, clear up and then re-surfacing is dreaming.

delthedriver · 05-02-2014 3:15pm

kimbaines wrote: »

The Denny Site should be used in the most effective way to create more jobs for the town. Can we put another tech hub in there? The Kerry Tech Park is full and needs to be expanded. I know there are some employees there who would love to work in the town centre. A major employer in this site would provide the boost that the centre needs. We have a huge amount of cafes and lunch options in the town and the trade passed on to these alone would be a huge plus.
Putting in another Car par will only spread the existing load. To think the Council would provide this free of charge after paying out for demolition, clear up and then re-surfacing is dreaming.

Not a bad idea, however there appears to be ample vacant office space available in the huge almost empty building across the road from the Railway Station.

A prison, due to its close proximity to the Garda Station.

Empty buildings eventually become derelict, it is often cheaper to demolish and start afresh. Car park is always an option.

amadain · 22-03-2014 8:07pm

06-02-2014, 23:11 #5285
kingdumb
It will be interesting to see what TCC do with that site, please let me those looking for it to be turned into a carpark are jesting.

06-02-2014, 23:15 #5286
delthedriver
What do you think it should be used for?

06-02-2014, 23:24 #5287
kingdumb
Seeing as you ask, I think a memorial park to the millions of innocent pigs which were slaughtered on this site would be a nice gesture, their final squeals still haunt me.
An interpretive centre could be developed which would be the first of it's kind [in Ireland anyway] and which would bring tourists from all over the world. The river could also be uncovered and a central lake formed.

07-02-2014, 08:39 #5289
Sully34
Originally Posted by delthedriver
What do you think it should be used for?
I would go with a brothel, it might help people like yourself to stop pestering the ladies on here

16-02-2014, 11:38 #5535
Southern Dandy
Wasn't even born then but those videos were just brilliant. It is way of peering into my parents past, and what it was like for them back then. Chances are whilst filming "Dennys" my Father would have been blissfully unaware this was being filmed while he worked inside.

amadain · 22-03-2014 8:12pm

I take it that KERRY COUNTY COUNCIL will now have the decision on what becomes of the Denny's Site in the town centre area.

kingdumb · 22-03-2014 11:06pm

Just a thought, anyone have any idea what the rates would be on a site like this ?

carchaeologist · 23-03-2014 12:57am

I heard it was full of asbestos, thus potentially costing a fortune to remove correctly so it was cheaper to donate in in a gesture of 'goodwill' and let the council pick up the tab of making it safe.

delthedriver · 23-03-2014 3:23am

carchaeologist wrote: »

I heard it was full of asbestos, thus potentially costing a fortune to remove correctly so it was cheaper to donate in in a gesture of 'goodwill' and let the council pick up the tab of making it safe.

A double edged sword indeed !

The premises was becoming more derelict each year. It was costing the owners money for rates insurance and security.

In one quick move they delivered what was a problem for them , to TTC.

The asbestos issue does not surprise me in the least.

TTC got a complete pig , no pun intended !

The cost of demolition will ultimately be borne by other businesses in the form of increased rates

ongarboy · 24-03-2014 11:47am

Unless a public private partnership (PPP) development is formed to build on the site. The cost, risk and potential returns would then be shared.

I do think some form of civic plaza/green space would be great but that by itself will be uneconomical if the costs of developing are too significant. This is where the private sector would get involved by building a mixture of retail/entertainment/office buildings around the perimeter of such a development to enable a financial return to justify their investment.

Good point made earlier about attracting businessess from the periphery into the town centre. It sounds like KTP is running out of space for some of the firms that are expanding. One company, Aspen Grove are already relocating to the old Peugout garage on the Castlemaine road as their expanding space requirements could no longer be met in the KTP. Remember, while we are still in a slump now, it's no excuse not to plan for the future when things turn around again (economies always go through boom and bust cycles) and have quality purpose built facilities ready and available to cater for those future requirements.

amadain · 06-03-2015 7:37pm

http://www.radiokerry.ie/news/new-development-plan-needed-for-dennys-site/

kn · 15-03-2015 10:45am

Inevitably the site will be used for dense housing with both Council and affordable housing as the site is just too tight with the existing road infrastructure for any significant commercial use. I wonder will they include the Garda station in the development plan seeing it is planned for a long-time to move that along with the Courts to a site at the Ballymullen junction with Dan Spring Rd.

manoverboards · 27-07-2016 10:54pm

theislandtralee dot ie

amadain · 04-09-2016 11:26pm

HAVE YOU SAY here

Kerry County Council has announced the first phase of public consultation on the future use of the Denny Bacon Factory site in Tralee, which was donated to the people of Tralee by Kerry Group in 2014. Over the next six weeks, members of the public will be able to propose ideas which will be used to form a master-plan for the 2.3 acre site. All responses will be examined by the Council as that master-plan is developed.

Click Here to Share your Idea

http://theislandtralee.ie/

amadain · 28-11-2016 3:13pm

Latest on the old Dennys site

KERRY County Council has published a summary of the findings of almost 800 submissions which were received from members of the public in relation to the future use of the former Denny Bacon Factory in Tralee town centre.

Over a period of six weeks, the Council engaged in a non-statutory and informal public consultation process to establish the views of people in relation to what should become of the 2.3 acre site at the Island of Geese which was gifted to the people of Tralee by Kerry Group in 2014.

Almost one third of a total of 766 respondents suggested a mixed use for the site and when that broad range of proposals was categorised along with all the other proposals specifying one use, the following is the breakdown of preferences for the use of the site:

· Arts/Culture 20.80%

· Social/Community 20.66%

· Public Amenity Space 18.28%

· Sports/Recreation 15.54%

· Retail 10.86%

· Tourism 9.37%

· Residential 2.76%

· Office Space 1.74%

In the further comments section of survey responses received, 21% of all respondents said they would like to see the area or part of it used as a farmers’ market/food market similar to the English Market in Cork or the Milk Market in Limerick while almost 7% of respondents proposed a skate park for the site.

Of a full total of 766 submissions, 605 responses were received through the ‘Share My Idea’ forms online at www.theislandtralee.ie and in hard copy; there were 69 written submissions; and 92 submissions made at workshops which were held in Tralee on 21 September.

All of the submissions have been collated and categorised by the Planning Section of Kerry County Council.

Mayor of Tralee, Cllr Terry O’Brien said the level of engagement in the consultation process was unprecedented and provides a useful consultation template for the future: “A project like this would normally just proceed through planning and statutory processes without any widespread consultation. But Kerry County Council was always conscious of the fact that this site was gifted to the people of Tralee and we wanted them to have their say.

“While all the proposals that have emerged through the ‘Share My Idea’ process are unlikely to be fully accommodated within the Island of Geese site, they remain valid and will be considered in the context of the wider development of the Tralee Town Centre West development and the wider town itself.

“The next step will be the appointment of experts to draw up a master-plan for the area and I hope that the content of these submissions will be closely considered in laying out what will become of this wonderful and iconic location,” said Cllr O’Brien.

http://traleetoday.ie/range-ideas-pu...r-denny-plant/

amadain · 14-04-2017 3:29pm

WHAT's the latest news on this place ?

ongarboy · 14-04-2017 11:00pm

amadain wrote: »

WHAT's the latest news on this place ?

I read somewhere recently that consultants were appointed to oversee the development and demolition of the factory will take place this summer but the original tall chimney will be retained. it sounds like development proper won't take place until next year at the earliest.

Ciarrai76 · 15-04-2017 11:27am

ongarboy wrote: »

I read somewhere recently that consultants were appointed to oversee the development and demolition of the factory will take place this summer but the original tall chimney will be retained. it sounds like development proper won't take place until next year at the earliest.

Have they even decided on what it's going to be used for?

manoverboards · 17-04-2017 10:28pm

I think that's what the consultants will be tasked with, they did publish a report of the public consultation.
http://theislandtralee.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Findings-from-Share-my-Idea-Survey.doc

Ciarrai76 wrote: »

Have they even decided on what it's going to be used for?

Denny's Factory Site in Tralee Town Centre

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