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Liger vs Tigon · 01-02-2014 03:50PM

Keyla Dry Valet wrote: »

They have been getting longer since 22nd December - assuming you mean daylight hours, as they are all still 24 hours long!

No I mean the days are getting longer, today is 25 hours long I believe. :rolleyes:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 01-02-2014 03:50PM

Technically Spring begins with the Vernal equinox on 21/22 March. The old primary school thing of spring being Feb, Mar, and Apr is long gone.

Busted Flat. · 01-02-2014 03:51PM

Good fresh start to Spring.

Liger vs Tigon · 01-02-2014 03:51PM

Keyla Dry Valet wrote: »

Technically Spring begins with the Vernal equinox on 21/22 March. The old primary school thing of spring being Feb, Mar, and Apr is long gone.

Do they not teach that anymore?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 01-02-2014 03:52PM

Liger vs Tigon wrote: »

No I mean the days are getting longer, today is 25 hours long I believe. :rolleyes:

Well say what you mean, say what you mean. Use your language, you're a big boy now. Say what you mean!:rolleyes:

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 01-02-2014 03:53PM

Liger vs Tigon wrote: »

Do they not teach that anymore?

Nope. It's an attempt to teach the correct information nowadays.

Liger vs Tigon · 01-02-2014 03:55PM

Keyla Dry Valet wrote: »

Nope. It's an attempt to teach the correct information nowadays.

So when does spring officially begin in Ireland.

Liger vs Tigon · 01-02-2014 03:56PM

Keyla Dry Valet wrote: »

Well say what you mean, say what you mean. Use your language, you're a big boy now. Say what you mean!:rolleyes:

I'm a girl and of average height and build.

wretcheddomain · 01-02-2014 03:59PM

Liger vs Tigon wrote: »

I'm a girl and of average height and build.

15 stone then if you're Irish.

shopaholic01 · 01-02-2014 04:01PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

15 stone then if you're Irish.

Oh oh!

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 01-02-2014 04:01PM

Astronomically, 22nd March. Meteorologically 1st March. Old school 1 February. So take your pick!

BluesBerry · 01-02-2014 05:40PM

Yeah when did they change the seasons when did that happen :mad:

biko · 01-02-2014 05:47PM

Springtime

kowloon · 01-02-2014 06:06PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

15 stone then if you're Irish.

Can open, worms everywhere!

jjbrien · 01-02-2014 06:14PM

Seen easter eggs in superquinn today so it must be spring.... surly they would not trick us

johnayo · 01-02-2014 06:21PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Ah the memories. Pulling rushes til your fingers turn blue, taking them to school and getting chastised by the teacher because they are the wrong type of rush, getting the rod for telling the teacher to stick his cross up his hole, getting the wooden spoon at home for what happened at school, banned from watching the A-Team and CHiPs for TWO WEEKS.

St.Bridget, I'll be keeping my eye out for you when I cross the pearly gates, mark my words!

Go halainn ar fad.

feargale · 01-02-2014 07:16PM

Anois teacht an Earraigh, beidh an la ag dul chun sineadh,
Is tareis na Feil' Bhride ardoigh me mo sheol
O chuir me 'mo cheann e ni stopfaidh me coiche
Go seasfaigh me sios i lar Chonndae Mhuigheo.

Roadtoad · 01-02-2014 10:30PM

Ta beagnach uair go leith breis solas againn o mean geimhridh.

(is olc an text predictive)

01-02-2014 10:32PM

Keyla Dry Valet wrote: »

Technically Spring begins with the Vernal equinox on 21/22 March. The old primary school thing of spring being Feb, Mar, and Apr is long gone.

My 11 year old announced that it is the start of spring this morning, so they still teach it.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 02-02-2014 04:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

My 11 year old announced that it is the start of spring this morning, so they still teach it.

Isn't it annoying when there are teachers still teaching incorrect information? Met a teacher last year who a I'll taught that birds lived in nests. I soon informed her that they lay eggs and raise young in nests but don't live there. Teachers aren't always right,

Wouldn't have posted if I knew the thread was going to be merged in to one in Irish!!!!

Davidius · 02-02-2014 07:37PM

It can be argued that the notion of 'Spring' has some cultural definition. For whatever reason the Gaels chose their definition of Spring such that it centred the equinox. This is not what Spring is in a meteorological or astronomical context, but it does not particularly matter unless you're working in those contexts. I think the distinction between the tradition and the scientific should be made, though I wonder how well kids would understand that.

Speaking of outdated information, once had a teacher tell us that Greystones was a mostly Protestant town.

Míshásta · 03-02-2014 02:57PM

Traditionally Spring starts on February 1st in Ireland.

It is not incorrect to teach that.

The start of Spring can be calculated by different methods.

You might as well argue that it's incorrect to teach that Christmas falls on Dec. 25th. because Orthodox Christians use a different date.

I think the problem is that many teachers nowadays are ignorant of the traditional date and just go by the British system.

Dyr · 03-02-2014 03:11PM

kowloon wrote: »

Can open, worms everywhere!

She probably thought it was a can of ambrosia creamed rice

/irish male

03-02-2014 04:08PM

Míshásta wrote: »

Traditionally Spring starts on February 1st in Ireland.

It is not incorrect to teach that.

The start of Spring can be calculated by different methods.

You might as well argue that it's incorrect to teach that Christmas falls on Dec. 25th. because Orthodox Christians use a different date.

I think the problem is that many teachers nowadays are ignorant of the traditional date and just go by the British system.

This very day I heard one of the top guys from Met Èireann on 'Morning Ireland' saying that they (Met Èireann) regard February as winter. So tough titty on that one.

BTW, he wasn't from perfidious Albion, I do believe he was Irish.

If the 'Brits' said 2+2 was equal to 4, would we have to disagree, so as to assert our independence?

GaelMise · 03-02-2014 04:13PM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

He's escaped from Teach na nGealt ! Someone get a rope and a horsebox, we need to get him back in before he's given state funding to waste .

Dont worry he will spend it responsibly on booze and hookers, but they will be Irish speaking hookers dammit!

GaelMise · 03-02-2014 04:21PM

9959 wrote: »

If the 'Brits' said 2+2 was equal to 4, would we have to disagree, so as to assert our independence?

A dó agus a dó sin 3.99999....... a mhac

topper75 · 03-02-2014 04:26PM

Cé mhéad ar .. you know... an séad-phost ... like?

Míshásta · 03-02-2014 05:14PM

9959 wrote: »

This very day I heard one of the top guys from Met Èireann on 'Morning Ireland' saying that they (Met Èireann) regard February as winter. So tough titty on that one.

BTW, he wasn't from perfidious Albion, I do believe he was Irish.

If the 'Brits' said 2+2 was equal to 4, would we have to disagree, so as to assert our independence?

You appear to be reading some anti-British bias in my post that was not in any way intended. The traditional start of Spring in Britain is 1st March - in Ireland it's 1st February. That's just the way it is - it's not a simple maths calculation.
As I already wrote, there are different ways of calculating Spring. Do a bit of googling, if you don't believe me.

There's also a big difference between the beginning of Spring as shown by the start of the growing season between West Cork and the Shetland Islands. The traditional calculation of Spring would probably have been set by our agricultural forefathers rather than by scientific research.

With all due respects to our man in the Met Office - I believe I heard the same interview - he didn't seem aware that February has long been regarded as the start of Spring here. That goes way back before there was any modern school system.

WilyCoyote · 03-02-2014 05:28PM

9959 wrote: »

This very day I heard one of the top guys from Met Èireann on 'Morning Ireland' saying that they (Met Èireann) regard February as winter. So tough titty on that one.

BTW, he wasn't from perfidious Albion, I do believe he was Irish.

If the 'Brits' said 2+2 was equal to 4, would we have to disagree, so as to assert our independence?

"Tough titty", said the Kitty
"But the milk tastes fine"!

Killer Wench · 03-02-2014 05:40PM

This was the biggest cultural shock that I experienced while living in Ireland. We have different seasonal schedules. Spring doesn't begin until mid-March, here in the States.

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