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TheGunns wrote: »

I've seen the reasons and tbh I still think it's bull**** that he sold players before he quit

I will admit it rubs me up a bit the wrong way too, but there is nothing that can be done about it. It was an argument put forward when there was a discussion about turning off monitoring and it was disregarded and said it wouldn't happen. But it's not against the rules and there isn't a way to reverse it now, so that's how it is.

Listen, there's two levels for me here.

One, I do feel a tad burned a bit, and I know this point will come across as being bitter. But twice in the last 10 days, you had told me I was "top of the line" for when Salah went on sale and you'd make sure I'd get a bid in. So I kind of feel I was strung along a bit there. But that's really petty, I know. But cards on the table, I'll be honest about it.

The other is Salah was one of your best players, and I'd personally believe that once you decided to quit, the last thing you should have been doing was offer players to people. While it was "fair" to you and others, I'd argue once you decided to quit, it wasn't your decision to make then. Salah, at Chelsea, is a nailed on 90 imo, and would have been the biggest bargaining chip any new manager had coming in. A far bigger chip to negotiate with than the 17m you've left him with.

If the intentions were to leave the club in the best shape possible as well and you were dead set on selling players, why not announce he was for sale and get the best deal possible? Yeah, GT's was good but I know I could have bettered it, and I'd imagine a lot of managers would have taken a crack at bettering it as well. But even that would have been unfair, since it leaves the next manager without one of his best players imo.

I do think had monitoring been turned on, these are the type of deals that would have been reversed pretty quick; not because of "jealousy", but because it's unfair to start selling players right before you leave. AFAIK, "dodgy deals" do include ones done right before a player quits. As I said last night, this type of problem was put forward when discussing turning monitoring off and was shot down, and low and behold, here we are/

Maldjd23 wrote: »

How anyone could have considered this anything other then cheating is beyond me.:(

I didn't consider it "cheating". As I said, it was just another negotiation tool. But yeah, it's specifically called out in the rules as being something that could see accounts suspended if caught.

http://www.soccermanager.com/code-of-conduct.php

Point 3b.

There are numerous ways in which you could be deemed to have broken the rules in relation to the transfer market:

b.Agreeing to sell a player to another manager in one Game World in return to them selling you a player in another Game Worlds;

If Soccer Manager believe that you have broken the rules in relation to the transfer market, it may, in its sole and absolute discretion, take the appropriate action against and/or suspend your account.

So I'll throw my hands up there. It is against the rules, it is defined as cheating .