Anti-Super bowl

herdygerdyerdy · 01-02-2014 04:34AM

uch?

Reoil · 01-02-2014 04:36AM

It's the US equivalent of the FA Cup or the All Ireland final.
Let them have their moment.

rossie1977 · 01-02-2014 04:46AM

freedominacup wrote: »

So they have the same physical attributes as a rugby centre or winger.

90% of top class rugby players wouldn't get picked if they entered the combine

Molester Stallone · 01-02-2014 04:54AM

rossie1977 wrote: »

90% of top class rugby players wouldn't get picked if they entered the combine

Harvester?

Canis Lupus · 01-02-2014 05:08AM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

What does the average American Football player run during a game??? 500 metres to 1km?!?!

On the pitch, stop, start, off the pitch, stop, start, compared to the constant intensity and power in rugby.

Basketball is the only proper USA sport, Baseball (rounders) and American Football make snooker look exciting.

An individual taking part in the very top of a specific sport is trained and fit to play that specific game.

Whilst rugby and AFL look quite similar they're two different sports and as such comparing the atheletes against one another is as wrong as comparing a marathon runner vs a sprinter and trying to claim one is fitter/better than the other.

Anyway it's down to opinion. I think basketball is as boring as ****. Baseball is just about spitting and AFL has oddly enough grown on me. I'd happily sit and watch it nowadays. Took a while to make sense of it all.

zerks wrote: »

America has the World Series in Baseball,no team from outside America takes part.

Named after a now defunct newspaper.

the whole year inn · 01-02-2014 05:13AM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

What does the average American Football player run during a game??? 500 metres to 1km?!?!

On the pitch, stop, start, off the pitch, stop, start, compared to the constant intensity and power in rugby.

Basketball is the only proper USA sport, Baseball (rounders) and American Football make snooker look exciting.

Snooker is exciting !

fatherted1969 · 01-02-2014 05:18AM

Always wondered how someone could play the game for 20+ years and be considered successful at it and never ever touch the ball once in all that time.

mdwexford · 01-02-2014 05:24AM

So much crap on one thread, good job.

monty_python · 01-02-2014 05:32AM

all american people/things and cnuts/crap

kjl · 01-02-2014 05:34AM

FearDark wrote: »

Superb Owl.

My favourite nature show about owls.

Stephen Colbert

kjl · 01-02-2014 05:50AM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

What does the average American Football player run during a game??? 500 metres to 1km?!?!

On the pitch, stop, start, off the pitch, stop, start, compared to the constant intensity and power in rugby.

Basketball is the only proper USA sport, Baseball (rounders) and American Football make snooker look exciting.

The distance they run does not equate to how fit they are. They have to get involved in tackles which drain players. The half back and the full back have to be in great condition, the types of runs they make require a lot more agility
than a football player.

How much does your average rugby player run in a game, I played second row all though school and I don't remember a lot of running, it was more getting into a pile up and pushing the ball to a back.

chrissb8 · 01-02-2014 05:51AM

bobwilliams wrote: »

this shows how much you know.......nada.
The AF players would leave premiership footballers and rugby players for dead in terms of their fitness.
yes there's the big guys aswell but they do serve a purpose and in fact the bigger guys are so strong and fast it's hard to believe at times.

Have you looked at any fitness regimes of football or rugby players. They literally are fined for not meeting certain weight targets. You can go on about your american "football" players being fitter but it isn't an iota true. A game where 15 minutes is demanded with oxygen tanks provided and stop and go would naturally make them unfitter then a rugby or soccer player. Their training is nothing to what rugby players and soccer players have to do. You're talking about players who must go 45 minutes non stop each half. Top Premierleague teams have a string of 2 or 3 matches plus training in a week. How could they not have better fitness levels.

Don't compare smashing into other people "fitness" either or even their first 5 yards. I'm talking about pure stamina and real fitness levels. Rugby and soccer teams are naturally fitter athletes. American sports par NBA are just ridiculous. Baseball you can be overweight. In Europe that isn't even acceptable for a cricket player to be like that. Worlds apart.

American football is a joke of a sport. People brutally smashing each other for years of their lives. Glad to see the dangers of it to the brain are coming to light. Using your head as a weapon all the time can't be right.
Also the ads etc. as mentioned. Where is the entertainment value? I understand and have watched it. It is terrible.

kjl wrote: »

The distance they run does not equate to how fit they are. They have to get involved in tackles which drain players. The half back and the full back have to be in great condition, the types of runs they make require a lot more agility
than a football player.

How much does your average rugby player run in a game, I played second row all though school and I don't remember a lot of running, it was more getting into a pile up and pushing the ball to a back.

Yes the distance does equate to that and yes if you've ever played rugby then you do have to tackle. Do you think this push back of the pile you mentioned takes no fitness. Reorganizing your team and moving with and back in to the ensemble of g force pushing each other back and forth is an easy task. American footballers can have their agility but they will never match a rugby players fitness!

kjl · 01-02-2014 06:12AM

MonaPizza wrote: »

Don't try to sell it to me. I know the rules of the game and it's as made up for a local audience as farting contests are. Take a tennis match and a full packed house. The vast majority there know the rules and object of the game. Likewise with football...you think a single person (apart from the odd bored girlfriend or tourist or 4 year-old with his father) doesn't understand the game?

I was in Giants Stadium at a game with my American ex. She was (plastic beaker in hand not even looking at what was going on on the field and neither did too many around her). I watched some caper and then there was a pause in the activity on the field and I tapped her as she was yapping to other (shirt wearing) "fans" behind her and I asked her if she could tell me what had happened in the game. I was told some crap about "second and down or fcuking first and ten" or some gibberish. She still couldn't explain and I sat out the rest of this spectacle.

Let's face it. The game is crap. the rules of the game are probably not rocket science at all, there's just some obscure crap in there to make it seem a bit more sophisticated than it really is, like some fancy terms and a few strange and rare "plays" that can be done during a certain scenario...like that kicking the ball and having it bounce a few times before it goes out.....how retarded and rip off of rugby is that farce.

So you don't know the rules.

How can you say a game is crap when you didn't even know what was going on?

The rules are simple

start of game coin is flipped one team decides to if the want to kick or receive.
the team who receives are the offence. After the defensive kick, the ball is catch by an offensive player who tries to gain as much yards as possible before he gets sacked (tackled to the ground). At that point an invisible line is drawn on the ground call the line of scrimmage. From this point the offensive have 4 tries to move the ball forward 10 yards, each of these trys are called downs. when you ex told you they were 2nd and 10, this means they are in their second down and have 10 yards to gain. If they make it across 10 yards, they go back to 1st down and it starts again.

Generally if they get to the 4th down, they elect to kick the ball down the field, but they also have the option to make a play. When they kick the ball the sides are switched and now the team who were defencive are offensive and vice versa. if they cross into the end zone they score a touchdown which is 6 points and have the option to either kick the ball for an extra point, (the never miss) or they can play from the 5 yard line and try to move into the end zone for 2 points.

If they fail to get the first down and they are within field goal distance, they can try for a field goal which is worth 3 points.

The game is a stratigic and mental game too as you have to try an predict what type of play your oponent will play

freedominacup · 01-02-2014 06:50AM

Molester Stallone wrote: »

Harvester?

Thanks.

y0ssar1an22 · 01-02-2014 10:00AM

I dont watch AF so cant comment on the sport itself. However there are many sports that lots of people dont watch, but tune in for the major events. Think of the Olympics, golf majors, Wimbledon, any other sport. Its probably due to the non-stop media coverage these major events get.
I cant begrudge people only watching the Superbowl because I am guilty of doing the same with other sports. And most people, I would guess, are the exact same.

iDave · 01-02-2014 10:01AM

I'm not going to pretend I'm a fan. In fact if it were on in my back yard I'd close the curtains.
What grinds my gears about it mostly is the coverage Irish and UK media give to it considering its a minority interest here. Every time I visit The Score or Balls.ie there is some NFL story doing the rounds. I'd argue F1 has a bigger fanbase here but doesn't get the same coverage. Same can be said of boxing, athletics etc but they only get reported for their biggest events or if there's an Irish interest. Meanwhile The Score ran a whole article about some NFL player sitting next to a swimming pool.
As for the Irish fans of it. Hmmmm. Very touchy. Can't handle the slightest critisism of it. Very insecure bunch.
As someone said earlier why doesn't the AFL have the same audience. It has a synergy with Gaelic football. Actual Irish competitiors. We probably have a friend living near their grounds.
It just doesnt happen to benefit from Al Pacino speeches and what Americans do best....HYPE!

helimachoptor · 01-02-2014 10:07AM

It's awesome, if you want to follow it pick a team and get following!

monty_python · 01-02-2014 10:23AM

helimachoptor wrote: »

It's awesome, if you want to follow it pick a team and get following!

no

darced · 01-02-2014 10:35AM

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namloc1980 · 01-02-2014 10:41AM

iDave wrote: »

I'm not going to pretend I'm a fan. In fact if it were on in my back yard I'd close the curtains.
What grinds my gears about it mostly is the coverage Irish and UK media give to it considering its a minority interest here. Every time I visit The Score or Balls.ie there is some NFL story doing the rounds. I'd argue F1 has a bigger fanbase here but doesn't get the same coverage. Same can be said of boxing, athletics etc but they only get reported for their biggest events or if there's an Irish interest. Meanwhile The Score ran a whole article about some NFL player sitting next to a swimming pool.
As for the Irish fans of it. Hmmmm. Very touchy. Can't handle the slightest critisism of it. Very insecure bunch.

Maybe, just maybe it has a bigger fan base here than you would care to admit or think! Wembley games sold out year after year. 2 sellouts this season with 3 in London next season which will all be sellouts. Not bad for a minority game wouldn't you agree?

namloc1980 · 01-02-2014 10:46AM

zerks wrote: »

America has the World Series in Baseball,no team from outside America takes part.

Newsflash: Canada is not part of the US.

colmufc · 01-02-2014 10:57AM

iDave wrote: »

I'm not going to pretend I'm a fan. In fact if it were on in my back yard I'd close the curtains.
What grinds my gears about it mostly is the coverage Irish and UK media give to it considering its a minority interest here. Every time I visit The Score or Balls.ie there is some NFL story doing the rounds. I'd argue F1 has a bigger fanbase here but doesn't get the same coverage. Same can be said of boxing, athletics etc but they only get reported for their biggest events or if there's an Irish interest. Meanwhile The Score ran a whole article about some NFL player sitting next to a swimming pool.
As for the Irish fans of it. Hmmmm. Very touchy. Can't handle the slightest critisism of it. Very insecure bunch.
As someone said earlier why doesn't the AFL have the same audience. It has a synergy with Gaelic football. Actual Irish competitiors. We probably have a friend living near their grounds.
It just doesnt happen to benefit from Al Pacino speeches and what Americans do best....HYPE!

That may have been ture 10 years ago but it has built a massive fan base in the past few years ,do you think Ireland would get to host it's second collage game in 2 years if it were not popular , as for the score.ie they carried a poll on who do you think will win it had over 1000 votes in the first hour and I think that's a good indication of following

01-02-2014 10:58AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Maybe, just maybe it has a bigger fan base here than you would care to admit or think! Wembley games sold out year after year. 2 sellouts this season with 3 in London next season which will all be sellouts. Not bad for a minority game wouldn't you agree?

First of all, Wembley/London is not "here". Secondly, Garth Brooks sold out 240,000 tickets in 90 minutes for Croke Park. It's a bandwagon effect for American hype. We go on about how the Yanks are saps when it comes to embracing Irish culture... We can be just as bad.

01-02-2014 11:00AM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Newsflash: Canada is not part of the US.

Newsflash: London is not part of Ireland. So your whole Wembley point is void

namloc1980 · 01-02-2014 11:05AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Newsflash: London is not part of Ireland. So your whole Wembley point is void

Go back and read the post I responded to like a good man. It referred to coverage and fan base in Ireland AND the UK! Maybe in future you should read posts before making an eejit of yourself.

Arthur Beesley · 01-02-2014 11:08AM

wazky wrote: »

3 mins feeling eachother up, pretending to look for a ball, and then break for a milkshake.

At least they have padding and helmets. Unlike rugby where they really are feeling each other up.

dodderangler · 01-02-2014 11:12AM

Arthur Beesley wrote: »

At least they have padding and helmets. Unlike rugby where they really are feeling each other up.

Must be one of those "soccar" (misspelt on purpose) fans that spen half their time screaming at the ref and his own players.
I assure you I've never seen any rugby players "feel" each other up.
Reason the paddin and helmets is because of the tackles they make. If rugby players wore the same the and would be void and the tackles would be more severe

y0ssar1an22 · 01-02-2014 11:14AM

dodderangler wrote: »

Must be one of those "soccar" (misspelt on purpose) fans that spen half their time screaming at the ref and his own players.
I assure you I've never seen any rugby players "feel" each other up.
Reason the paddin and helmets is because of the tackles they make. If rugby players wore the same the and would be void and the tackles would be more severe

They were talking about changing the AF 'tackle' to be more like rugby. ie: have to wrap your arms around the opponent. As it is now its just flying shoulders or heads.

Arthur Beesley · 01-02-2014 11:17AM

dodderangler wrote: »

Must be one of those "soccar" (misspelt on purpose) fans that spen half their time screaming at the ref and his own players.
I assure you I've never seen any rugby players "feel" each other up.
Reason the paddin and helmets is because of the tackles they make. If rugby players wore the same the and would be void and the tackles would be more severe

No, I have barely any interest in football, even less so in rugby. Rugby attracts a certain type. Not something that interests me.

And please don't attempt to infer my social status from this. You thing you are better than me or better educated because you like rugby? Pathetic.

namloc1980 · 01-02-2014 11:17AM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

They were talking about changing the AF 'tackle' to be more like rugby. ie: have to wrap your arms around the opponent. As it is now its just flying shoulders or heads.

It has been changed. Leading with the crown of the helmet is banned.

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