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Do kids need to learn early in life that they can't be good at everything

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  • #62
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
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    Mardy Bum wrote: »
    Any kid who puts a lot of effort into something should be rewarded no matter how bad/good it is because they then learn that it is effort that is the important quality rather than innate ability.

    In fairness I think both are important. As children get older they need to be able to recognise their innate talents and build on them and take pride in them.


  • #63
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
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    Mardy Bum wrote: »
    Any kid who puts a lot of effort into something should be rewarded no matter how bad/good it is because they then learn that it is effort that is the important quality rather than innate ability.

    "Prasied" yes, but not nessecarily "rewarded".

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #64
    IvyTheTerrible
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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    "Prasied" yes, but not nessecarily "rewarded".
    I agree.

    I remember as a small child I was no good at physical activities but I did elocution lessons and did poetry reciting competitions at the Feis. I remember the year they gave the gold medal to the child with the speech impediment, who was hardly able to say his poem, I wanted to give up. This child was good at football, he got to be on the team, and I didn't. So why did he have to have the extra reward?


  • #65
    Mardy Bum
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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    "Prasied" yes, but not nessecarily "rewarded".

    Rewarded with a compliment. :p


  • #66
    castletownman
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    The GAA have taken a leaf out of the Americans playbook by not taking scores in under 8's hurling and football.

    Which is ridiculous, because the very first time I can remember my father being proud of me was when I scored the winning goal against our fierce rivals in an under 8 football blitz in 1996.

    Go hard or go home is the family motto :D


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  • #67
    jimgoose
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    castletownman wrote: »
    The GAA have taken a leaf out of the Americans playbook by not taking scores in under 8's hurling and football.

    Which is ridiculous, because the very first time I can remember my father being proud of me was when I scored the winning goal against our fierce rivals in an under 8 football blitz in 1996.

    Go hard or go home is the family motto :D

    This tells you all you need to know about kid's GAA in rural areas:




    :D


  • #68
    conorhal
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    Knex. wrote: »
    The, "Every child is special", stuff that you often hear annoys me sometimes.

    At exactly what age do kids stop being "special" and are instead regarded as being just another Joe Soap?

    The percentage of kids that were once regarded as special, and yet have turned out to be remarkably less than so, must be staggering.

    OK, so some of that is tongue in cheek. Sure, kids needs to be encouraged and guided along the right path. But they also need constructive guidance, and criticism, not just pull the wool over their eyes, "You can be president of America", stuff.

    Our current Minister for (special) Education, is very much into the rather trendy lefty educational ideology of 'equality of outcomes'.

    The problem with an 'equality of outcome' policy, in which everybody must succeed equally, is very well explained in a lovely little scene in Pixar's 'The Incredibles' in which a former superhero tries to explain to her 'fast as a lightening bolt' son why he can't play sports in school :

    Helen: Dash... this is the third time this year you've been sent to the office. We need to find a better outlet. A more... constructive outlet.

    Dash: Maybe I could, if you'd let me go out for sports.

    Helen: Honey, you know why we can't do that.

    Dash: But I promise I'll slow up. I'll only be the best by a tiny bit.

    Helen: Dashiell Robert Parr, you are an incredibly competitive boy, and a bit of a show-off. The last thing you need is temptation.

    Dash: You always say 'Do your best', but you don't really mean it. Why can't I do the best that I can do?

    Helen: Right now, honey, the world just wants us to fit in, and to fit in, we gotta be like everyone else.

    Dash: But Dad always said our powers were nothing to be ashamed of, our powers made us special.

    Helen: Everyone's special, Dash.

    Dash: [muttering] Which is another way of saying no one is.


  • #69
    anncoates
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    castletownman wrote: »
    The GAA have taken a leaf out of the Americans playbook by not taking scores in under 8's hurling and football.

    I think most of successful European football nations base youth development around skills and non-competitive games until they get to a certain age.

    Ireland, however, is more into the launch it up the muddy field 18 goal thriller surrounded by screaming parents and coaches and 9 year kids sitting on the bench because they "won't get stuck in".


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