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Kickass Torrents & Eircom. (MOD: No Posting torrent site links!)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Mr.Torrent


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Since some people clearly can't understand the warning, bans for posting torrent site links have now changed to two months.

    Guys, please don't post any mirror sites etc for these sites, I don't want to be handing out bans.

    Illegal downloading is getting worse these days, and I think it is disgraceful.
    If you download a P.Diddy song, you’re not only stealing from him, you’re also stealing from whoever he stole it from in the first place.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,945 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Joking aside, how long before religious nutjobs try the same tactic based on the obscene blasphemy laws given this precedent?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭corsav6


    No block on our fixed wireless, can still access the blocked site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,963 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Spear wrote: »
    Joking aside, how long before religious nutjobs try the same tactic based on the obscene blasphemy laws given this precedent?

    Won't happen. To paraphrase an earlier post, there's no money to be made in taking down blasphemous material. I think the wingnuts used up all their stroke in getting that ridiculous law passed in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,530 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The internet is going to be sh1t in about 5 or 6 years time.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,945 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    briany wrote: »
    Won't happen. To paraphrase an earlier post, there's no money to be made in taking down blasphemous material. I think the wingnuts used up all their stroke in getting that ridiculous law passed in the first place.

    But it won't be about money in a case like that. This was Greece just a few days ago:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/facebook-page-mocking-greek-orthodox-monk-jail-blasphemy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,484 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    zarquon wrote: »
    Kickass is available on UPC. Wouldn't worry about blocks though as there are plenty of proxies floating about for both.

    Blocked this evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,963 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Spear wrote: »
    But it won't be about money in a case like that. This was Greece just a few days ago:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/facebook-page-mocking-greek-orthodox-monk-jail-blasphemy

    I'm not saying someone won't get done over a blasphemy charge, I'm saying you won't get whole sites blocked on the basis that they're 'hosting blasphemous material' because that would mean trying to censor the likes of Youtube with all it's rants and, by extension, Google, who are an employer in Ireland. Also, you have to consider the political and social climate in Greece, with I-Can't-Believe-They're-Not-Facist parties like the Golden Dawn gaining traction and stirring up sentiment in the first place.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5 MouldyBum


    Download Opera browser and use Turbo or "Off Road" mode. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭BEB


    how do you access the setting withing opera
    sorry prob a stupid question!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,963 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Tony EH wrote: »
    The internet is going to be sh1t in about 5 or 6 years time.

    Just as every other year there's a tech article proclaiming the coming of Linux on the desktop, there's people proclaiming the death of the Internet as we know it even though information is more plentiful online now than it's ever been with more means of access and more people accessing it. I'm not saying that it can't be worse in the future but there seems to be a lot of defeatism and pessimism in the Internet community when a story like this comes around. ISPs have actually been censoring content for a long time before these blocks, too. Eircom could block certain newsgroups from their Usenet server back when they still had one, for example. Although Internet censorship stories are popular and given this spin like it's a relatively new evil, it's actually been going on since man made the marriage of modem and computer. Censorship is not the issue, it's public apathy towards it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭ibFoxer


    Has anyone on eircom noticed a sudden decline in speed? I am on the 50mb efibre but speeds are only between 4-8 mb/s at the moment. Are eircom throttling i wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,963 ✭✭✭✭briany


    foxerv1 wrote: »
    Has anyone on eircom noticed a sudden decline in speed? I am on the 50mb efibre but speeds are only between 4-8 mb/s at the moment. Are eircom throttling i wonder?

    When you say mb, do you mean megabit or megabyte? If you mean the former then 4-8/50 isn't great, but the latter would be maxing out your connection (and then some).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭ibFoxer


    briany wrote: »
    When you say mb, do you mean megabit or megabyte? If you mean the former then 4-8/50 isn't great, but the latter would be maxing out your connection (and then some).

    Sorry, Mbps. It was registering speeds of 40some, but i only checked it tonight because youtube was slow to buffer. testing through upc yields Last Result:
    Download Speed: 8189 kbps (1023.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 15511 kbps (1938.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Latency: 25 ms
    Jitter: 3 ms
    23 January 2014 21:53:59

    Through speedtest.net

    ping 25ms download 3.90 upload 13.77









    and mysteriously through eircom.net

    ping 53ms download 31.79 upload 10.25

    Something is definitely amiss here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,530 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    briany wrote: »
    Just as every other year there's a tech article proclaiming the coming of Linux on the desktop, there's people proclaiming the death of the Internet as we know it even though information is more plentiful online now than it's ever been with more means of access and more people accessing it. I'm not saying that it can't be worse in the future but there seems to be a lot of defeatism and pessimism in the Internet community when a story like this comes around. ISPs have actually been censoring content for a long time before these blocks, too. Eircom could block certain newsgroups from their Usenet server back when they still had one, for example. Although Internet censorship stories are popular and given this spin like it's a relatively new evil, it's actually been going on since man made the marriage of modem and computer. Censorship is not the issue, it's public apathy towards it.

    I said sh1t, not "death".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5 MouldyBum


    BEB wrote: »
    how do you access the setting withing opera
    sorry prob a stupid question!

    It's in the settings on the top left. Click on the Opera logo and at the bottom of the list is Off Road Mode.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,945 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Here's how well a block of the TPB worked in the Netherlands:

    http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2014/01/28/providers-hoeven-the-pirate-bay-niet-meer-te-blokkeren/

    After 2 years, the court ordered it removed as a complete failure, and the anti-piracy group BREIN had to pay the court costs of €326,000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    Fat chance of that happening here. UPC are the only provider who had the balls to stand up against this blocking in the first place.

    We're totally run by companies and lobby groups, and as long as gobsheens/politicians like Sherlock are in power and the industry have them by the balls, blocks will take place and won't be reversed.

    I don't necessarily agree with piracy, but I believe that the restriction of content is completely wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭White Heart Loon


    Fat chance of that happening here.

    Don't be so sure about, the judge cited European laws in his ruling, the blockade was found to hinder the Internet providers’ entrepreneurial freedoms, an argument that could easily be used here
    The court based its decision on the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, which both includes “freedom to conduct a business” and “right to property.” In this case the entrepreneurial freedom outweighs property rights, because the blockades are disproportionate and ineffective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭StaticNoise


    Yeah, but I can't see it being raised again here by the service providers.

    Eircom are hemorrhaging money and are in bed with the industry, despite the failed MusicHub project. Magnet, Imagine, and others don't have the funds or client base. BT won't be interested or allowed because of their parent's in the UK. Sky won't because they're not using their own lines, and because they love money and sell TV and content.

    UPC are the only ones, but it is risky for them would act only if threatened, rather than proactively.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭tonyheaney


    i can get on Kickass but using a proxy but it isnt 100% but it works. Regarding
    Eircom are hemorrhaging money
    whats the story with their new line up of efiber? 30 channels for a tenner??? what's up with that? also what other sites can we use should kickass die like isohunt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,963 ✭✭✭✭briany


    tonyheaney wrote: »
    i can get on Kickass but using a proxy but it isnt 100% but it works. Regarding whats the story with their new line up of efiber? 30 channels for a tenner??? what's up with that? also what other sites can we use should kickass die like isohunt?

    Discussing alternatives to KAT on here is kind of frowned upon but the smallest bit of Googling should answer your question.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,686 ✭✭✭tonyheaney


    briany wrote: »
    Discussing alternatives to KAT on here is kind of frowned upon but the smallest bit of Googling should answer your question.

    very true, but i may rephrase my question, what i meant to say was what happens when we can no longer access free downloads, will we go back to DVDs or will life return to normal lol. also do you remember that time in the Simpsons where TV was banned or something and every one returned to the real world??? lol that'll be us soon


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭White Heart Loon


    tonyheaney wrote: »
    very true, but i may rephrase my question, what i meant to say was what happens when we can no longer access free downloads, will we go back to DVDs or will life return to normal lol. also do you remember that time in the Simpsons where TV was banned or something and every one returned to the real world??? lol that'll be us soon

    What? You actually think blocking a site makes any difference? Besides, there are already other methods, streaming sites and Usenet. It's a big game of whack a mole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,963 ✭✭✭✭briany


    tonyheaney wrote: »
    very true, but i may rephrase my question, what i meant to say was what happens when we can no longer access free downloads, will we go back to DVDs or will life return to normal lol. also do you remember that time in the Simpsons where TV was banned or something and every one returned to the real world??? lol that'll be us soon

    Well there's always Netflix and that kind of thing. More robust physical media like a dvd is maybe a good thing for archival purposes but day-to-day they're more of an impediment. You have to store them, find the one you want to watch, wait through the unskippable warnings and awkward menus, then put them away again and God help you if you ever lend one to someone because it's not coming back in as good a state as it left you. I'm never going back to dvds and I always back up my data.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭Skalragg


    there are proxy sites available for ALL these torrrent sites, esp pirate bay.... simply google for it......

    ISPs only block the actual copyright infringing website...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 step39


    Don't they understand how the net works? For every torrent site they close down more open or simply change i.p. address. If they carry on they will end up having to block the whole of the web. Not only that simply using a proxy gets round these stupid blocks anyway. The Music industry is failing to come to grips with new technology and they need to adapt. The real immorality here is the popular music industry itself where people who's only talent is to be able to sing think somehow or other they are worth more than a heart surgeon or a nurse. Music needs to go back to its roots where entertainers earned a wage more in keeping with their true value to society. The whole record industry is a travesty that should never have been allowed to develop in the first place. How can someone like Elton John, I name him because he has been active in anti piracy action, how can he believe for one minute that singing a few songs should be paid in millions. I'm not saying for one minute that artists should not be paid for their work, what I'm saying is that no performer is worth the obscene amount of money that some of these people earn and that is where the real immorality lays and where the real debate should take place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Blitz17


    Working for me now with no proxy ? Im with UPC


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,945 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Blitz17 wrote: »
    Working for me now with no proxy ? Im with UPC

    Indeed, the block is gone again for me. Probably a glitch though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭Engine No.9


    What's goin on with kickmirror? All I can see is the text and links. None of the interactive features are there. Can't hover to see comments, no magnet links, no download button!!!??? On voda fibre BB here if that makes a diff!?


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