Jim Mansfield R.I.P

Stavros Murphy · 29-01-2014 08:23PM #1

Jim Mansfield has died. I for one am sorry, I found him a decent man to deal with. Pity he was so battered financially towards the end.

Menas · 29-01-2014 08:25PM

Who?

Sir Arthur Daley · 29-01-2014 08:27PM

I knew a Father Clint power once?

MammaZita · 29-01-2014 08:27PM

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

Jim Mansfield has died. I for one am sorry, I found him a decent man to deal with. Pity he was so battered financially towards the end.

Hadn't heard this. I hope his financial woes were not the underlying cause. RIP.

henryporter · 29-01-2014 08:27PM

The man who developed City West and had his own airport out that direction too. Got a doing for trying to build a conference centre there without Planning Permission.

COYW · 29-01-2014 08:28PM

Yep, he built his empire from nothing, starting off in scrap metal I believe. RIP.

mathepac · 29-01-2014 08:31PM

henryporter wrote: »

The man who developed City West and had his own airport out that direction too. Got a doing for trying to build a conference centre there without Planning Permission.

.. bribing the right FF planning officials.

RIP.

Lapin · 29-01-2014 08:31PM

There is something admirable about a person who bought up a load of scrap metal left over from a conflict thousands of miles away and sold it on for millions.

He invested his wealth in his local area, put some run down parts of west Dublin on the map and provided jobs for hundreds.

However, his scant regard for the planning laws and poor taste in architecture leave a lot to be desired. But thats for another day.

May he R.I.P.

Stavros Murphy · 29-01-2014 08:31PM

I spoke to a close friend of his today, one of Irelands former wealthiest men, also battered at this stage and he said Jim was one of the cleverest men he'd ever met - he didn't even have a Father growing up yet dragged himself to the heights. I think his legacy - Citywest, has brought a lot of pleasure to a lot of people and it seemed a bit off not to even see a mention of his passing. Anyway, condolences to his family. The financial travails couldn't have done his health much good.

MadsL · 29-01-2014 08:32PM

His gravestone will have planning I take it?

Stavros Murphy · 29-01-2014 08:33PM

MadsL wrote: »

His gravestone will have planning I take it?

Hopefully not, just for the craic. I think he would have liked that.

genericguy · 29-01-2014 08:34PM

Thought the usual AH RIP whores would've been all over this hours ago.

sabat · 29-01-2014 08:35PM

Yes, it is incredible how a private airport with little or no customs checks on the fringes of a small city became such a success.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mansfield-jet-trafficking-led-by-former-ira-activist-26417006.html

COYW · 29-01-2014 08:36PM

henryporter wrote: »

The man who developed City West and had his own airport out that direction too.

Weston airport. I flew in and out if it on many occasions. No longer the owner of it, I believe.

sabat wrote: »

Yes, it is incredible how a private airport with little or no customs checks on the fringes of a small city became such a success.

An awful lot of the flight schools for pilot training are based out there. I'd guess that is where they make their money.

Stavros Murphy · 29-01-2014 08:36PM

genericguy wrote: »

Thought the usual AH RIP whores would've been all over this hours ago.

I don't think I'm a member of that club. I was just genuinely saddened to hear he had passed.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 29-01-2014 08:37PM

Still ended up another developer who borrowed money he couldn't repay. Easy to be a big developer with RR , jet etc back in the day when you borrowed against inflated assets, built what you felt like without permission and did not make sure monies would be available to pay back debts.

Stavros Murphy · 29-01-2014 08:38PM

sabat wrote: »

Yes, it is incredible how a private airport with little or no customs checks on the fringes of a small city became such a success.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mansfield-jet-trafficking-led-by-former-ira-activist-26417006.html

That bullsh1t dogged his life - "a reputation" - which was based on utter b0llox - he was a businessman. The fact he rubbed the establishment up the wrong way contributed to a lot of the false smears and innuendo. He got kicked down at every turn but still bulled on.

MadsL · 29-01-2014 08:41PM

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

That bullsh1t dogged his life - "a reputation" - which was based on utter b0llox - he was a businessman. The fact he rubbed the establishment up the wrong way contributed to a lot of the false smears and innuendo. He got kicked down at every turn but still bulled on.

By building without planning permission on borrowed money? What a hero.

sabat · 29-01-2014 08:43PM

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

bullsh1t

false smears

innuendo

Really? So his private jet wasn't being used for importing drugs?

Stavros Murphy · 29-01-2014 08:48PM

sabat wrote: »

Really? So his private jet wasn't being used for importing drugs?

If I hire you a car you get to do what you like with it. Regardless, I'm not getting into a cake-fight, I just thought it was sad he died.

MadsL · 29-01-2014 08:49PM

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

If I hire you a car you get to do what you like with it. Regardless, I'm not getting into a cake-fight, I just thought it was sad he died.

Wait. There's cake? When's the funeral?

Stavros Murphy · 29-01-2014 08:52PM

MadsL wrote: »

Wait. There's cake? When's the funeral?

Some people emigrate and are really no loss. Do you not have an e-mail or text to be getting aggravated about?.

MadsL · 29-01-2014 09:10PM

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

Some people emigrate and are really no loss. Do you not have an e-mail or text to be getting aggravated about?.

I cost the country much less than this bloke when I left.

I'm baffled how you find it sad that someone who's debts are now being serviced by the nation who dies at 75 to be 'sad'.

"Sad" how exactly?

Stavros Murphy · 29-01-2014 09:14PM

MadsL wrote: »

I cost the country much less than this bloke when I left.

I'm baffled how you find it sad that someone who's debts are now being serviced by the nation who dies at 75 to be 'sad'.

"Sad" how exactly?

Well done. You probably created jobs for far more people and had a nicer hotel too. I'm thrilled for you. Sad as in I'm sad he's dead sort of sad.

MadsL · 29-01-2014 09:18PM

Stavros Murphy wrote: »

Well done. You probably created jobs for far more people and had a nicer hotel too. I'm thrilled for you. Sad as in I'm sad he's dead sort of sad.

We are having a hotel measuring contest now? I'm disappointed, I thought there was a cake-fight promised.

Remind me again how many people had to emigrate as a result of these arrogant bastards who borrowed money, flouted the law, and ultimately failed leaving the nation to pick up the tab.

dreamers75 · 29-01-2014 09:37PM

Its not unnatural for buildings/extensions(company type not private) to be built without planning permission. I work in 2 fairly large buildings which were built and planning permission were applied for retro style.

But the people who built the ones I work didnt have any issues getting PP 3 years after the building opened.

Guy:Incognito · 29-01-2014 09:38PM

It washim that built the mill centre in clondalkin was it not? Stole a nice bit of land from the missus' grandfather and sold it in all of that.

Menas · 29-01-2014 09:41PM

Ok, having read his wiki page I feel like this outpouring of grief smells a bit like one of Seanie Quinns rallys.

He died in debt to the nation. If he died with the nation in debt to him I would have started this thread myself.

MadsL · 29-01-2014 09:41PM

dreamers75 wrote: »

Its not unnatural for buildings/extensions(company type not private) to be built without planning permission. I work in 2 fairly large buildings which were built and planning permission were applied for retro style.

But the people who built the ones I work didnt have any issues getting PP 3 years after the building opened.

You are aware that Mansfield cost the Irish taxpayer €300million, and that as I recall the retrospective planning granted was held to be breach of EU law.

Building without planning permission at the scale Mansfield did is hardly 'natural'.

Frankie Lee · 29-01-2014 09:51PM

What is the story with libel now that he is dead?

SimonLynch · 29-01-2014 09:53PM

He seemed to divide opinion, people either loved or hated him, quite funny when his brothers come into Blessington for a pint, half the pub are all over them and the other half retreat to the other end of the pub and give them daggers.

Jim Mansfield R.I.P

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