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Rangers FC On Field Gossip & Rumour Thread 2017 Mod Note in OP(Updated 14/08)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭blahfckingblah


    aye CSF is a season ticket holder, sits between walter smith and ally mccoist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Hagar the Nice.


    BFDJ claimed Stockbridge was sacked on Sooperdooperscoreboard,won't get a penny now.
    Front page of the Herald....'Stockbridge to recieve £200k.':)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,513 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Constructive criticism :D

    That'll be a first for some on here.

    LiamoSail: As long as some of the Celtic fans behave like petulant kids who only come in here to stir trouble I doubt we'll see many sensible debates.

    I'm all for taking the piss in either this or the Celtic thread, but it seems like a few of the tims on here feel the need to constantly go further, down to the pathetic and nasty. God forbid if a Rangers fan comes into a Celtic thread to joke around (the thread from the Juventus game comes to mind), but apparently it's a free for all in here.

    The worst part is that when a Celtic fan (CSF for example) makes a comment about how the Hagars of this world need to chill out they're somehow seen as 'not real fans' ?
    We need to have some serious words outside buddy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Hagar the Nice.


    CSF wrote: »
    We need to have some serious words outside buddy.
    :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    How many penos have been given to RIFC so far this season?? They seem to get a phenomenal amount.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Hagar the Nice.


    Its a new record for the league they are in,its unreal how many they get for such a new club.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,513 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Should it not have been a pen?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Hagar the Nice.


    Nope,and the Sooperscoreboard panel agreed apart from BFDJ.

    Here's a nice post from GG in today's Scotsman.

    y GLENN GIBBONS
    Published on the
    25 January
    2014
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    EVEN the most fervent of Ally McCoist’s apologists might be persuaded to agree that the Rangers manager was the subject this week of the most ironic headline of this 13-year-old century.

    “Football Is Keeping Me Sane – Ally” sat above an article that proved to be simply the latest in a seemingly endless series that has consistently reinforced the view that the job at Ibrox has long since disabled his capacity for rational thought.

    This most recent rumination on the trials and tribulations of Scotland’s most aberrant football club focused on his worry that off-field shenanigans would interfere with his players’ effectiveness against part-time, semi-pro opponents in Scottish League 1. He opened with the baffling observation that “the boys have been terrific with the way they have gone about their business. It’s to their eternal credit that they are getting criticised for only winning 1-0 or 2-0. That’s how far they have come”.

    But, more strikingly, McCoist’s crediting his players with a sensitivity to Rangers’ reputedly waning financial robustness confounds a truth with which managers and directors have been familiar almost since the introduction of professionalism to Scottish football in 1892.

    It is that players basically could not give a hoot how a club is run, who is in charge (from boardroom to manager’s office) or the state of their economic affairs as long as their wages are in the bank on the due date every month. This is an eternal verity of which McCoist himself gained first-hand experience just days before, when his squad delivered a unanimous and unconditional rejection of the very suggestion of accepting a wage cut in order to reduce the crippling expenditure of a business on the slide.

    Moreover, the manager adhered to his recently-acquired readiness to undermine and embarrass his own employers in public by declaring that, in rebuffing the overtures of chief executive Graham Wallace, the players had his full support. This followed his actions of just a few weeks earlier, when he handed the voting rights of his substantial tranche of shares in Rangers to a supporters’ club in advance of an annual meeting at which the sitting directors – that is, his own paymasters – faced a potentially troublesome election to remain in power.

    Given McCoist’s almost relentless exhibitions of unfathomable outbursts, as a consequence of which he has been almost invariably exposed as guilty of unsound judgment (if not outright mischief-making), it is hardly surprising that he should be the most divisive figure at Ibrox.

    His unparalleled success as a striker ensures an imperishable esteem in one area, while his eccentricities since succeeding Walter Smith as manager have raised serious concerns among many of the club’s followers over his suitability for the job. Some of his most ill-advised utterances and actions clearly sprang from an urge to play the populist card, but were so flimsily-based and hastily-executed that they backfired.

    His notorious demand for the publication of the names of the members of the SFA judicial panel that reviewed Rangers’ case in the early days of administration and liquidation (“we want to know the names of these people, Rangers fans want to know the names of these people”) became deeply embarrassing when it was revealed that he knew their identities from the start.

    His inflammatory language was widely thought to have been a factor when committee members were threatened by agitated Rangers fans. Similarly, when he demanded to know why Rangers had been fined over their financial irregularities, while Hearts and Dunfermline (comparable cases) were not, the SFA sighed and let it be known what McCoist already knew: Rangers were fined because they asked for a financial penalty to avoid the alternative.

    But, on legal grounds, McCoist’s most prejudicial reaction to press probing was his denouncement of the torching of the garage that housed Rangers’ new £500,000 luxury coach, his unambiguous implication that the arson had been deliberately carried out by fans of a rival club. It was a speculation that was revealed by police investigators to be utterly without foundation.

    McCoist, of course, is not the first football manager to have demonstrated a penchant for idiosyncratic behaviour. Players in the charge of the late Brian Clough, for instance, would testify that he was “daft as a brush”, but knew how to get results.

    For anyone attempting to assess McCoist’s capabilities as a manger, however, there is the unavoidable impression of fickleness, a willingness seemingly to indulge in whimsy without a moment’s thought and, probably least promising of all, a consistent failure to apply proper appraisal and consideration to the most momentous issues to come within his scope.

    This inability to recognise imperatives and take appropriate steps to accommodate them may prove to be most damaging to himself and his club in the area of manager/board relationships. Innumerable members of McCoist’s profession have discovered (or been advised of) an ancient maxim: the first thing any new manager should do is make the owner, chairman, chief executive or controller of the corporate purse his best friend.

    The late Tommy Burns, an extraordinary man in every other way, failed lamentably to heed the counsel, even though his was whispered by none other than that giant of Celtic lore, Billy McNeill. The former captain and manager told Burns on his first day in the job that he should ensure a sound and productive relationship with Fergus McCann.

    McNeill recognised that the old dictum was even more important in the case of McCann, since he was one of a new breed of boss, the owner/managing director, a hands-on executive who was looking after his own money. Inevitably, the collision of personalities was irretrievable and there could be only one winner. In such an event at Ibrox, it won’t be Ally McCoist ascending the podium.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    CSF wrote: »
    Should it not have been a pen?

    It was a clear foul.

    Of course some will see a conspiracy in the fact Rangers get a certain amount of penalties, but when you're up against part-time players who do not have the fitness levels of professional players mistakes happen.

    I can't recall a penalty that was undeserved.

    Rangers so far have had 5 penalties this season, is that really that much ?
    Only 1 more than Raith Rovers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Hagar the Nice.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    How many penos have been given to RIFC so far this season?? They seem to get a phenomenal amount.

    The same amount as Celtic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880



    Pushed in the back, that's a foul any day of the week.

    But of course not for you.

    Shocking that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,513 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    He wasn't going to get anywhere near the cross, but I don't think the referee really needs to take that account once he is fouled in the box. Stupid peno but still a peno.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Hagar the Nice.


    CSF wrote: »
    He wasn't going to get anywhere near the cross, but I don't think the referee really needs to take that account once he is fouled in the box. Stupid peno but still a peno.
    Ref never even gave it,it was his assistant who saw it,thing is though,the defender didn't even touch him.
    Before you come back and mention the decision in the Hibs v Celtic game,that was a stonewaller to Huns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,513 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Ref never even gave it,it was his assistant who saw it,thing is though,the defender didn't even touch him.
    Before you come back and mention the decision in the Hibs v Celtic game,that was a stonewaller to Huns.
    Didn't see the Celtic game. That one there definitely looks as though he did touch him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    TheBuilder wrote: »
    The same amount as Celtic

    Shhhhh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 984 ✭✭✭Hagar the Nice.


    I thought you were skint?
    Gabriel Games,ex WBA player now with Doncaster Rovs,set to sign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    How many penos have been given to RIFC so far this season?? They seem to get a phenomenal amount.
    Its a new record for the league they are in,its unreal how many they get for such a new club.

    To be fair lads considering they have approx 70% possesion in most games they play its perfectly reasonable that they will win more penalties than the opposition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    I thought you were skint?
    Gabriel Games,ex WBA player now with Doncaster Rovs,set to sign.

    You mean Tamas ? :)

    It's in the Herald, I doubt anything will happen.

    edit: Turns out it was in the Romanian press a week ago first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭TheBuilder


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    You mean Tamas ? :)

    It's in the Herald, I doubt anything will happen.

    edit: Turns out it was in the Romanian press a week ago first.

    He also signed for Doncaster a week ago


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional North East Moderators Posts: 10,886 Mod ✭✭✭✭PauloMN


    Is that the same Tamas that Celtic were interested in a good while ago?

    He didn't last long in Cluj by the looks of it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Is that the same Tamas that Celtic were interested in a good while ago?

    He didn't last long in Cluj by the looks of it!

    Did he get sacked from Cluj for breaking a team-mates jaw, while drunk, by showing him how to win a header and elbowing him in the mouth?? Don't RIFC already have Ian Black and Lee McCullough for that??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    PauloMN wrote: »
    Is that the same Tamas that Celtic were interested in a good while ago?

    He didn't last long in Cluj by the looks of it!

    7 days, actually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/263136-ally-mccoist-id-have-bet-on-ibrox-not-being-picked-for-league-cup-final/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
    "Not surprised at all.

    "I did say to the chief executive that if we were allowed to bet, which of course we are not, get a few quid on the cup final not being at Ibrox.

    "I just didn't think it would be. It was my own opinion.

    "I think obviously Neil [Doncaster], or indeed whoever is running the SPFL, made the decision and they'll stick by it."

    In an interview with STV on Wednesday, SPFL chief executive Doncaster said Ibrox couldn't be used because it was likely a live game would be played at the ground the day before, causing logistical problems for television companies.

    McCoist refuted that suggestion, saying: "I've worked with television long enough that I know these boys are unbelievable at their job in terms of de-rigging and setting up for games.

    "Come on. That doesn't wash with me and I don't think it washes with you either."

    Ally's nose is out of joint over not getting the League Cup final at Ibroke.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/scotland/26036144
    "So, we were left with two to consider and we had a full consultation with the clubs involved, both venues: Celtic Park and Ibrox; and with Police Scotland and the broadcasters.

    "The key determining factor was that, at Ibrox on the day before the final, Rangers are due to host Dunfermline.

    "That's likely to be a live televised game and, in those circumstances, it just wouldn't have been possible for the broadcasters to de-rig on the Saturday and get rigged up in time for the Sunday.

    "We've been left with Celtic Park and are delighted to be coming to Celtic Park, which has a huge tradition of hosting big European games.

    "We're absolutely sure it'll provide a great venue for the first final for the Scottish Professional Football League."

    Why didnt Ally, or anyone else at Ibrox, dispute this point when it was made in the consultation process? Maybe the TV companies involved decided they werent going to put themselves under that much logistical pressure over a league 1 game & a league cup final without Celtic or RIFC.

    Maybe he knows Rangers could have done with the stadium rental fee more than Celtic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    I have to agree with Lawwell though, cup finals should be played in neutral venues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Albion Rovers at Ibrox in the Quarter finals of the Scottish cup. I will take that thank you very much :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Cold and warm balls, gotta love it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,704 ✭✭✭Broxi_Bear_Eire


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Cold and warm balls, gotta love it.

    Oh you should see some of the posts on other forums it's a conspiracy I tell ya :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Other forums of teams that aren't in the competition, those forums ? ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


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    You're f*cking right we can imagine :D

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    Andrew's a bit upset :)

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    This stuff writes itself.


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