If there was an election tomorrow, who would you vote for?

godwin · 26-01-2014 07:00PM

Does it really matter who you vote for? they promise stuff they have no intention in delivering and they all give you the shaft in the end

dxhound2005 · 26-01-2014 07:22PM

godwin wrote: »

Does it really matter who you vote for? they promise stuff they have no intention in delivering and they all give you the shaft in the end

You were promised water charges and they are going to be delivered.

donegal__road · 26-01-2014 07:52PM

at least they kept that promise ^^^ :rolleyes:

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Nino Brown · 26-01-2014 08:01PM

I want the same guy that everybody in Ireland wants. Captain Hindsight!
We shouldn't have guaranteed the banks
We shouldn't have fueled the housing market
We shouldn't have bailed out Anglo

We don't want leadership or risk takers, we just need the power of 20-20 hindsight

Amirani · 26-01-2014 08:02PM

Shane Ross would be my first preference. He's easily the outstanding candidate in my constituency.

dxhound2005 · 26-01-2014 09:19PM

NiallSparky wrote: »

Shane Ross would be my first preference. He's easily the outstanding candidate in my constituency.

He mightn't be your candidate next time round. Dublin South will be gone and a smaller constituency with only 3 TD's instead of 5, Dublin Rathdown, will be created. You never know whether Ross will last much longer than the other saviour of the world you had, George Lee. And Peter Matthews has already jumped ship from FG with a view to savings his skin in the new setup.

Ross is certainly one of those who has changed his views using the benefit of hindsight. He was one of the biggest fans of Anglo and Irish Nationwide in the old days and much in admiration of Charlie McCreevy.

It was established by the Electoral (Amendment) (Dáil Constituencies) Act 2013.[3] Dublin Rathdown will largely replace the existing constituency of Dublin South, with the electoral divisions in Dún Laoghaire–Rathdown of Cabinteely-Loughlinstown, Foxrock-Carrickmines, Foxrock-Torquay and Stillorgan-Leopardstown being transferred to the Dún Laoghaire constituency; and the electoral divisions in South Dublin of Ballyboden, Edmondstown, Firhouse-Ballycullen, Firhouse-Knocklyon, Rathfarnham-Ballyroan, Rathfarnham-Butterfield, Rathfarnham-Hermitage, Rathfarnham-St. Enda's, Rathfarnham Village being transferred to the Dublin South–West constituency.

Filibuster · 26-01-2014 09:24PM

jonnny68 wrote: »

Bit disturbing that FG have more votes than anyone else have people learned nothing at all FFS, they are equally as bad as FF.

On the plus side it's positive to see so many votes for Independents.

Independents are worthless - fix my pothole politics

marozz · 26-01-2014 09:28PM

None of them. For the first ever I would be spoiling my vote.

jonnny68 · 26-01-2014 09:59PM

Filibuster wrote: »

Independents are worthless - fix my pothole politics

As opposed to impose more and more austerity and cuts,bail out the banks, mask unemployment figures, scandal after scandal after scandal.

Bravo old chap!

road_high · 26-01-2014 10:05PM

jonnny68 wrote: »

As opposed to impose more and more austerity and cuts,bail out the banks, mask unemployment figures, scandal after scandal after scandal.

Bravo old chap!

Do you think all this would change in a world run by independents?!
Many of them are just disgruntled ex party members, what's worse is some were ones kicked out for corruption and the like.

26-01-2014 10:38PM

Ideologically I'm closest to Labour and usually vote for them. But my local Labour TD is Seán Sherlock. So no.
Not Fianna Fáil - far too soon. When the old guard is gone, and they're led by a new Lemass rather than a Haughey or an Ahern, perhaps I'll reconsider them.
Not Sinn Féin - don't agree with their economic policies.

If there was a decent independent (like Shane Ross) in my constituency I'd vote for them. Otherwise it's probably gonna be Fine Gael by default, even though I've never voted for them before and greatly dislike many of their people (including Tom Barry, also one of my local FG TD's - not a chance will I vote for him)

Annasopra · 26-01-2014 10:41PM

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Including the 93 people who say they would vote FG?

To be honest. YES.

Dick phelan · 26-01-2014 10:44PM

For those who voted SF please explain how they are possibly the best party, what economic policies do they have that would work don't just give me the aul **** of we need chance a socialist republic, yeah that's great but what you going to do other then talk. For me it's FG for all the faults they are the best imo of a very bad lot, FF can **** right off they got us in the mess in the first place

Dick phelan · 26-01-2014 10:46PM

Me? wrote: »

Sinn Fein. I believe they are the only one's with the guts to take on the establishment.

Great and tell me how will they run the country based on their economic policies, lets see how many are liking SF when all the public sector workers aren't getting paid.

keeponhurling · 26-01-2014 10:47PM

Filibuster wrote: »

Independents are worthless - fix my pothole politics

Independent TDs can vote in the Dail on all bills being brought in, not just road related ones.

Anyways, Wouldn't fixing potholes be more of an issue for county councils ?

the_syco · 26-01-2014 10:50PM

mango salsa wrote: »

I can't take Sinn Fein seriously. In the North they implement many of the policies they claim to oppose down south.

To me they seem to be on the way to becoming FF lite. Populist.

Don't forget that the RoI and also the UK give NI money each year. I wonder would SF be able to keep doing what they do up North without said cash inflow?

keeponhurling · 26-01-2014 10:54PM

Dick phelan wrote: »

Great and tell me how will they run the country based on their economic policies, lets see how many are liking SF when all the public sector workers aren't getting paid.

It's interesting that there are socialist parties in government in many (most?) countries around the world and they seem to manage ok.

Whereas in Ireland, FF and FG have somehow brainwashed us into thinking that if a socialist party got power, it would be the end of the world

I suppose scare mongering to an extent, rather than positive policies.

Dick phelan · 26-01-2014 10:57PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

It's interesting that there are socialist parties in government in many (most?) countries around the world and they seem to manage ok.

Whereas in Ireland, FF and FG have somehow brainwashed us into thinking that if a socialist party got power, it would be the end of the world

I suppose scare mongering to an extent, rather than positive policies.

No its because SF have not come out with a clear concise realistic plan for the economy where they to get into power, all they do is **** talk if you think FG broke promises watch what SF would do if they were in power. If SF got into power i think i'd move to Syria.

L'Enfer du Nord · 26-01-2014 11:01PM

An independent if there's one that appeals to me running in my constituency.

No way would I vote for direct democray, however when I first heard about them I was initially attracted to the idea of party that was serious about reform. For the same reason the mere name 'Reform Alliance' attracts my attention. I have an appetite for reform I hope many others do. The system and culture that got us into this mess is still largely in place. Reforming the system won't necessarily change the culture but I would a step in the right direction. If a party comes along with a serious reform platform I'll vote for them. Not some ****e like getting rid of an irrelevant upper house on grounds that it'll save money. That was an attempt a window dressing, for that reason I voted against it.

I expect Finna Fail to do quite well in the next election by promising to reverse various unpopular policies.

keeponhurling · 26-01-2014 11:04PM

Dick phelan wrote: »

If SF got into power i think i'd move to Syria.

See what you're doing there? Suggesting the country would be worse off than Syria who have a civil war, and violent atrocities every other day.
Scare mongering.

You could have just said that you think Party A would be better than Party B

Dick phelan · 26-01-2014 11:34PM

keeponhurling wrote: »

See what you're doing there? Suggesting the country would be worse off than Syria who have a civil war, and violent atrocities every other day.
Scare mongering.

You could have just said that you think Party A would be better than Party B

It was a joke i was being ironic

Irish Steve · 26-01-2014 11:56PM

Don't greatly like any of the "major" parties right now.

FF are still way too much influenced and motivated by the old school that got us into the mess that we're nowhere near out of yet, and so in bed with the Golden Circle, letting them back in again now would undo the little progress that's been made on undoing the mess that they made of things.

FG have not delivered on many of the changes they promised, and while their hands have been tied by the troika, they could have done some of the things they promised. They don't seem to have the courage to take on the Golden Circle, too many of them are looking at their own long term future in places like Europe.

SF. What policies do they have? None of them are clear, and some of the ideas they propose would be dangerous for the economy. There are way too many skeletons in the cupboard for my liking, and that's only the ones we know about.

Labour. seem to have problems deciding what they really support and stand for. I have problems with any party that is supported by trade unions, my personal experience of trade unions has left me very disillusioned by their power and activities, and a government that is deeply controlled by Trade Unions would be a disaster.

Independents etc. Too many of them are not really independent, they are party faithful that were not, or party supporters that are no longer acceptable to the party, and in some cases, they should not be acceptable to the electorate either.

Some of them are single issue candidates, but making things happen on their single issue is proving to be more difficult than they realised, the Golden Circle have things so well sewn up, making real change is almost impossible. Getting any real cohesion into the Independents will be very hard, and without it, the Golden Circle will run rings round them, they've had plenty of practice with the major parties.

What does that leave us with.

Not much, and not many real options.

None of the above is not a cop out, it's a reflection of the appalling state of affairs that we are faced with, a party that will take on the Golden Circle is what's needed, but I don't see one at the moment.

sawdoubters · 27-01-2014 12:01AM

a lot of people would vote for fianna fail,who got us into this mess

that would be a dumb move,

Dave! · 27-01-2014 12:27AM

I'll be voting for Fine Gael again. The economy is improving gradually and in a more sustainable manner, with the deficit heading south, net job increases for the last few months, a successful exit from the troika programme and a return to the private bond market, raising of our investment grade and economic outlook from the ratings agencies, etc. They've also at least done *something* about the abortion issue, and I like what Ruairi Quinn is doing with the schools too.

There are things to be unhappy about for sure, but overall I'm happy with the government's performance, and can't see a viable alternative that would do a better job. I reckon over the next few years things will continue to get better under this government.

I have no idea if they'll be able to get voted back in, though.

Annasopra · 27-01-2014 12:30AM

keeponhurling wrote: »

It's interesting that there are socialist parties in government in many (most?) countries around the world and they seem to manage ok.

Whereas in Ireland, FF and FG have somehow brainwashed us into thinking that if a socialist party got power, it would be the end of the world

I suppose scare mongering to an extent, rather than positive policies.

SF are not socialist!

If there was an election tomorrow, who would you vote for?

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