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OK, so you're an atheist. What next?

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  • #152
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    J C wrote: »
    ... Saved or un-Saved it's not a good idea to behave badly.
    Nature, society and the State punish bad behaviour.

    Ah but God doesn't care, which according to you is far more important.


  • #153
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bumper234 wrote: »
    How is it "paradise" when your one and only thought is ZOMG it's "GOD"!!!!!

    No memories of loved ones or friends,

    No meeting loved ones or friends,

    Just an eternity of mindless worship of a "God" that allows pain and suffering :rolleyes:
    We don't lose our minds or our thoughts when we die ... our conscious spirit retains all of these things ... and we can meet all of our loved ones and friends in Heaven ... but only if they are not Atheists ... and they believed in God.


  • #154
    jjpep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 652 ✭✭✭jjpep


    ...feel guilty for doing things that they enjoy that cause no harm to anyone else ... but this is something that Atheists can't (or won't) do ... because they don't believe in God.


  • #155
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Cabaal wrote: »
    You don't have to swear on the bible,
    Swearing isn't a good idea ... on anything ... including the Bible ... affirmations are the way to go.:)


  • #156
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    J C wrote: »
    We don't lose our minds or our thoughts when we die ... our conscious spirit retains all of these things ... and we can meet all of our loved ones and friends in Heaven ... but only if they are not Atheists ... and they believed in God.

    So my Father (devout Catholic went to church every day) is in heaven but my mother (atheist) is in hell. My Father LIVED for my mother, if he is in heaven and she is not there then it will be hell for him. What about me? According to you I will also go to hell, how will my Father be happy in heaven knowing his wife and son are burning in eternal fires?


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  • #157
    Kiwi in IE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    J C wrote: »
    We don't lose our minds or our thoughts when we die ... our conscious spirit retains all of these things ... and we can meet all of our loved ones and friends in Heaven ... but only if they are not Atheists ... and they believed in God.

    Can you provide any proof for what you have written above?


  • #158
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Brian Shanahan wrote: »
    So its alright for you to tell others to shut up, but not all right when others tell you the same?

    Given that you exist (in your mind) in a fantasy universe created 6,000 years ago created by a big beard in the sky, what makes you think you're better qualified than the average five year old, say, as to the worthiness of someone's words?

    Oh, and your post is ignoring the fact that we're not shutting you up, just imploring you to stop spreading the lies you do about yourself, evolution and the other matters you post falsehoods about.
    Where have I asked you or anybody else to 'shut up' ??
    I enjoy reading your posts ... actually.
    Fair comment and freedom of speech are essential foundations of a free society ... but that doesn't mean that people should be nasty to each other ... and in fairness, you guys don't tend to be.


  • #159
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bumper234 wrote: »
    So my Father (devout Catholic went to church every day) is in heaven but my mother (atheist) is in hell. My Father LIVED for my mother, if he is in heaven and she is not there then it will be hell for him. What about me? According to you I will also go to hell, how will my Father be happy in heaven knowing his wife and son are burning in eternal fires?
    I don't know the eternal destiny of either your father or mother ... that is between them and Jesus Christ.

    Why do you say will you go to Hell?
    I certainly wouldn't judge your eternal destiny ... and you can be Saved if you believe on Jesus Christ ... so its really up to you.;)


  • #160
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,151 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    I don't know the eternal destiny of either your father or mother ... that is between them and Jesus Christ.

    Why do you say will you go to Hell?
    I certainly wouldn't judge your eternal destiny ... and you can be Saved if you believe on Jesus Christ ... so its really up to you.;)

    "it's your own fault you're to burn for all eternity. I'd love to be merciful to you but I'm too busy being just." :rolleyes:

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #161
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    J C wrote: »
    I don't know the eternal destiny of either your father or mother ... that is between them and Jesus Christ.

    Why do you say will you go to Hell?
    I certainly wouldn't judge your eternal destiny ... and you can be Saved if you believe on Jesus Christ ... so its really up to you.;)

    My Father believed in "God" and Jesus.

    My Mother didn't believe in them.

    I don't and never will believe in them.

    Are you saying my Dead Mother is in heaven?

    Are you saying I will go to heaven (I will NEVER believe in "God" or Jesus)


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  • #162
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    SW wrote: »
    "it's your own fault you're to burn for all eternity. I'd love to be merciful to you but I'm too busy being just." :rolleyes:

    And forgiving don't forget forgiving :rolleyes:


  • #163
    Kiwi in IE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    Can you provide any proof for what you have written above?


    No?


  • #164
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bumper234 wrote: »
    You walk into a war zone and relax :rolleyes:
    A fair point.


  • #165
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    SW wrote: »
    where did Penncil say God was a just judge?
    He didn't ... but He is.:)


  • #166
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,151 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    He didn't ... but He is.:)

    so just more misrepresentation from yourself? you really should try spending less time at the bottom of the barrel.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #167
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    And if a group of children who were taught they're all going to be saved by a snowman went to war, they'd probably pray to Frosty. What does this prove exactly?
    ... if they were Atheists in a foxhole and they prayed to Frosty ... it would prove that Atheists pray in foxholes ... which has been the subject of extensive debate over the past few pages on this thread.:D:)


  • #168
    Kiwi in IE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    Atheists can't use 'faith' as an alternative for evidence when making fantastical claims and expect to be taken seriously.


  • #169
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    No. Just, no.
    ... sound like denial to me.


  • #170
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Hey, anyone, what's an atheistic faith position?
    Isn't Faith Position a US porn star?


  • #171
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    lazygal wrote: »
    Ah but God doesn't care, which according to you is far more important.
    He cares allright ... enough to condemn you if you don't repent and seek His infinite mercy ... and enough to forgive you if you do.:)


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  • #172
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,151 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    He cares allright ... enough to condemn you if you don't repent and seek His infinite mercy ... and enough to fogive you if you do.:)

    both parts of that statement can't be true. You can't be infinitely merciful if you condemn someone to eternal torment. It's double-think.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #173
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    jjpep wrote: »
    ...feel guilty for doing things that they enjoy that cause no harm to anyone else ... but this is something that Atheists can't (or won't) do ... because they don't believe in God.
    ... Christians also don't feel guilty about doing things that they enjoy that causes no harm to anyone else or themselves either ... and they believe in God.:D


  • #174
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,276 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    J C wrote: »
    ... if they were Atheists in a foxhole and they prayed to Frosty ...

    ...would that prove the existence of Frosty?


  • #175
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    SW wrote: »
    "it's your own fault you're to burn for all eternity. I'd love to be merciful to you but I'm too busy being just." :rolleyes:
    Not too far off the mark ... we can avail of God's mercy or His Justice ... and it really is up to each one of us which we choose to avail of.


  • #176
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,151 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    J C wrote: »
    Not too far off the mark ... we can avail of God's mercy or His Justice ... and it really is up to each one of us which we choose to avail of.

    didn't take long for the infinite mercy to vanish.


    EDIT:

    “It is better to risk saving a guilty person than to condemn an innocent one.” <- this is a level of mercy that your "infinitely merciful" god can't reach.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #177
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Still waiting for an answer to this.

    J C wrote: »
    I don't know the eternal destiny of either your father or mother ... that is between them and Jesus Christ.

    Why do you say will you go to Hell?
    I certainly wouldn't judge your eternal destiny ... and you can be Saved if you believe on Jesus Christ ... so its really up to you.;)

    My Father believed in "God" and Jesus.

    My Mother didn't believe in them.

    I don't and never will believe in them.

    Are you saying my Dead Mother is in heaven?

    Are you saying I will go to heaven (I will NEVER believe in "God" or Jesus)


  • #178
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bumper234 wrote: »
    My Father believed in "God" and Jesus.

    My Mother didn't believe in them.

    I don't and never will believe in them.

    Are you saying my Dead Mother is in heaven?
    I don't know.
    bumper234 wrote: »
    Are you saying I will go to heaven (I will NEVER believe in "God" or Jesus)
    If somebody refuses to recognise a court of law ... what would a just judge do with them?
    ... he would 'send them down'.
    ... and that is what will happen to anybody who refuses God's mercy ... in favour of His justice.:)


  • #179
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    J C wrote: »
    I don't know.

    If somebody refuses to recognise a court of law ... what would a just judge do with them?
    ... he would 'send them down'.
    ... and that is what will happen to anybody who refuses God's mercy ... in favour of His justice.:)

    So my poor Father is in heaven but his wife and son are burning in eternal fires of hell. That's not heaven for him.


  • #180
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    Atheists can't use 'faith' as an alternative for evidence when making fantastical claims and expect to be taken seriously.
    It certainly doesn't stop them doing so.:)


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  • #181
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    robindch wrote: »
    Isn't Faith Position a US porn star?
    I wouldn't know anything about that ... but I'll take your word for it, that s/he is !!!:);)


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