Vehicle Gallery - Discussion Thread

Capri · 18-01-2014 10:31PM

Póliní Airm 132 D Ford Ranger twin-cab with truck cap cover in Rathmines today - supposed to have 5 of them. Seen and gone too quick to get pic.

DAVE1972 · 19-01-2014 12:58PM

the vectra is dark greyey light colour attached to station on cork s northside

belacqua_ · 21-01-2014 11:15AM

@Capri, I believe the Met's use of both jam sandwich and battenburg is similar to here: the latter marking is reserved for their traffic branch.

*edit. The above used to be the case, but it looks like they're changing the entire fleet over to battenburg. End of an era.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/new-batternburg-police-car-designs-63115

21-01-2014 06:18PM

belacqua_ wrote: »

@Capri, I believe the Met's use of both jam sandwich and battenburg is similar to here: the latter marking is reserved for their traffic branch.

*edit. The above used to be the case, but it looks like they're changing the entire fleet over to battenburg. End of an era.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/new-batternburg-police-car-designs-63115

As you say, they are going battenburg. It's a national livery thing.

Terrontress · 22-01-2014 02:03AM

belacqua_ wrote: »

@Capri, I believe the Met's use of both jam sandwich and battenburg is similar to here: the latter marking is reserved for their traffic branch.

*edit. The above used to be the case, but it looks like they're changing the entire fleet over to battenburg. End of an era.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/new-batternburg-police-car-designs-63115

They did a survey on Twitter to make a decision, allegedly.

Same thing with whether to issue hi viz or black jackets.

They must presume that every twitter user has a desire to see the police operate as effectively as possible.

22-01-2014 11:10AM

Terrontress wrote: »

They did a survey on Twitter to make a decision, allegedly.

Same thing with whether to issue hi viz or black jackets.

They must presume that every twitter user has a desire to see the police operate as effectively as possible.

Have you seen how many give out about their helicopters? @mpsinthesky

EireGun · 22-01-2014 03:16PM

Los Angeles Police Department, a slightly smaller force than the Gardai with 10,000 officers compared to 13,000, and serving a population of 3.8 million over a smaller area compared to 4.5 million have 26 helicopters and 3 planes v 2 helicopters and 1 plane that the Gardai have. What a joke.

donvito99 · 22-01-2014 03:20PM

EireGun wrote: »

Los Angeles Police Department, a slightly smaller force than the Gardai with 10,000 officers compared to 13,000, and serving a population of 3.8 million over a smaller area compared to 4.5 million have 26 helicopters and 3 planes v 2 helicopters and 1 plane that the Gardai have. What a joke.

LA cannot be compared with the Republic of Ireland.

Scouser · 22-01-2014 03:21PM

EireGun wrote: »

Los Angeles Police Department, a slightly smaller force than the Gardai with 10,000 officers compared to 13,000, and serving a population of 3.8 million over a smaller area compared to 4.5 million have 26 helicopters and 3 planes v 2 helicopters and 1 plane that the Gardai have. What a joke.

and crime stats off the charts in comparison

3fullback · 22-01-2014 03:32PM

EireGun wrote: »

Los Angeles Police Department, a slightly smaller force than the Gardai with 10,000 officers compared to 13,000, and serving a population of 3.8 million over a smaller area compared to 4.5 million have 26 helicopters and 3 planes v 2 helicopters and 1 plane that the Gardai have. What a joke.

I know its hard to compare L.A. to Ireland but its a very interesting point! I would'nt say LA has 26 times more crime however ? Certainly there is practicality in having an AGS Helicopter based in each of the 6 divisions. The same could be said for Dog Units. Two resources which seem to be completely under utilised by AGS outside of the DMR. I certainly believe if dogs were allocated to each division it would lead to more captures/finds for drugs,person searches etc. Also it would'nt be a major cost to implement.

source · 22-01-2014 04:14PM

EireGun wrote: »

Los Angeles Police Department, a slightly smaller force than the Gardai with 10,000 officers compared to 13,000, and serving a population of 3.8 million over a smaller area compared to 4.5 million have 26 helicopters and 3 planes v 2 helicopters and 1 plane that the Gardai have. What a joke.

Ireland GDP for 2012 was $210.4bn
Los Angeles GMP for 2012 was $765bn

They have more money so they get more toys.

EireGun · 22-01-2014 04:36PM

source wrote: »

Ireland GDP for 2012 was $210.4bn
Los Angeles GMP for 2012 was $765bn

They have more money so they get more toys.

No, they don't. LAPD budget for the last year was $1.4 billion (€1 billion), Garda budget for the last year was $1.9 billion (€1.4 billion).
Garda budget is higher by $500 million or €370 million.

Your figures are also misleading, because the LAPD serves the city of LA (3,792,621 inhabitants), while your GMP figure refers to the Los Angeles–Long Beach–Santa Ana metropolitan area, which has 13,000,000 inhabitants, 3 and a half times that of the city of LA, and is served by various different police forces.

Last year the Gardai reduced flying hours for the Garda helicopters from 1,800 flying hours annually to 800, a cut of more than half. To achieve savings of just €400,000. Now they are reducing the number of Detectives and plainclothes personnel carrying firearms, to save less than €2 million, despite an increase in the Garda budget this year. Sounds like the government are they are trying dismantle the force. Meanwhile, the Army Ranger Wing increases in size by a third (not that I oppose that), but the Special Detective Unit had NO firearms training or range practice in the last 3 months of 2013 due to cost savings. Instead of qualifying with a firearm 3 times a year, they now only do it once (to save money on ammunition), while the SDU has also lost dozens of unmarked cars due to retirement and remarking, not replaced. The scheme to replace the SDU's UZI smgs with H&K MP7 (in the works since 2008) has been cancelled. Farcical situation.

heffomike54 · 22-01-2014 09:09PM

Quick random question folks, Can ANPR systems be mounted on a motor bike and if so, has anyone a link to a picture of it? Thanks in advance

POGAN · 22-01-2014 09:34PM

heffomike54 wrote: »

Quick random question folks, Can ANPR systems be mounted on a motor bike and if so, has anyone a link to a picture of it? Thanks in advance

No there only in limited amount of cars

EireGun · 22-01-2014 09:45PM

heffomike54 wrote: »

Quick random question folks, Can ANPR systems be mounted on a motor bike and if so, has anyone a link to a picture of it? Thanks in advance

I haven't heard of it or seen it before (as in "mounted on a motor bike"), although I'm sure it's possible and been done somewhere. Closest I've seen online is a stationary motorbike plugged into a stationary ANPR camera in the UK... http://www.flickr.com/photos/humbersidepolicepics/8027072602/

BaronVon · 22-01-2014 10:31PM

heffomike54 wrote: »

Quick random question folks, Can ANPR systems be mounted on a motor bike and if so, has anyone a link to a picture of it? Thanks in advance

There's quite a bit of computer equipment that comes with ANPR, I wouldn't imagine there would be enough room left on a bike after you allow for the radio and sirens/blue lights!

Capri · 23-01-2014 09:23PM

Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: »

as plain as it is i like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM8zugFLVrc

You'd have to fear for the Health and Safety of those Danish police :rolleyes: , or maybe they just don't like to slavishly follow the UK battenberg style, and the Danes are safer drivers

Terrontress · 23-01-2014 09:30PM

heffomike54 wrote: »

Quick random question folks, Can ANPR systems be mounted on a motor bike and if so, has anyone a link to a picture of it? Thanks in advance

I'd imagine that ANPR needs a second occupant in the car to make most use of the video facilities etc. A motorcyclist police has to be extremely alert to the road around him.

heffomike54 · 24-01-2014 01:15AM

Thanks for the info on the ANPR system for bikes, was thinking it would be hard to fit on a bike alright!

source · 24-01-2014 11:22PM

EireGun wrote: »

No, they don't. LAPD budget for the last year was $1.4 billion (€1 billion), Garda budget for the last year was $1.9 billion (€1.4 billion).
Garda budget is higher by $500 million or €370 million.

Your figures are also misleading, because the LAPD serves the city of LA (3,792,621 inhabitants), while your GMP figure refers to the Los Angeles–Long Beach–Santa Ana metropolitan area, which has 13,000,000 inhabitants, 3 and a half times that of the city of LA, and is served by various different police forces.

Last year the Gardai reduced flying hours for the Garda helicopters from 1,800 flying hours annually to 800, a cut of more than half. To achieve savings of just €400,000. Now they are reducing the number of Detectives and plainclothes personnel carrying firearms, to save less than €2 million, despite an increase in the Garda budget this year. Sounds like the government are they are trying dismantle the force. Meanwhile, the Army Ranger Wing increases in size by a third (not that I oppose that), but the Special Detective Unit had NO firearms training or range practice in the last 3 months of 2013 due to cost savings. Instead of qualifying with a firearm 3 times a year, they now only do it once (to save money on ammunition), while the SDU has also lost dozens of unmarked cars due to retirement and remarking, not replaced. The scheme to replace the SDU's UZI smgs with H&K MP7 (in the works since 2008) has been cancelled. Farcical situation.

The reason I quoted GDP/GMP as opposed to the police forces budgets, is that helicopters would be classed as a capital investment, and so would not come out of the forces regular budget. But would be counted as once off purchases, which would come out of the state or city's budget. The LA economic area has a GMP of $765bn means they have much more money for capital investment than Ireland with a GDP of $210bn.

That is why LAPD can afford to have 19 helicopters and 1 fixed wing aircraft. As to the rest of your post, it has nothing to do with vehicles so it has no place in this thread.

EireGun · 25-01-2014 12:32AM

source wrote: »

As to the rest of your post, it has nothing to do with vehicles so it has no place in this thread.

If that's the case, neither does LA's GMP, which you brought up.

source · 25-01-2014 12:37AM

EireGun wrote: »

If that's the case, neither does LA's GMP, which you brought up.

And with ridiculous comments like that I'm out.

It's very obvious if you read my post why I brought up LA's GMP, and what it has to do with their police helicopters. I feel at this stage that you're probably flaming, so having made my point, I'll bow out of this conversation now.

EireGun · 25-01-2014 12:50AM

source wrote: »

And with ridiculous comments like that I'm out.

It's very obvious if you read my post why I brought up LA's GMP, and what it has to do with their police helicopters. I feel at this stage that you're probably flaming, so having made my point, I'll bow out of this conversation now.

I brought up the other points about cost-cutting in the Gardai in the same capacity in which you brought up LA's GMP. Nothing ridiculous about that.

And by the way, the LAPD have 26 helicopters, not 19, and 3 fixed wing aircraft, not 1.

source · 25-01-2014 08:24PM

EireGun wrote: »

I brought up the other points about cost-cutting in the Gardai in the same capacity in which you brought up LA's GMP. Nothing ridiculous about that.

And by the way, the LAPD have 26 helicopters, not 19, and 3 fixed wing aircraft, not 1.

I know I said I wasn't going to reply to you but you're so incredibly wrong I just have to post this:

http://www.lapdonline.org/air_support_division/content_basic_view/1179

The fleet remained virtually unchanged until 1988 when the first Aerospatiale AS350B-1 was added to the fleet. Today at full capacity, the fleet consists of:
14 - Eurocopter AS350B2
5 - Bell Jet Ranger B3s
1 - King Air Fixed Wing

14 + 5 = 19

EireGun · 26-01-2014 04:22AM

source wrote: »

I know I said I wasn't going to reply to you but you're so incredibly wrong I just have to post this:

http://www.lapdonline.org/air_support_division/content_basic_view/1179

14 + 5 = 19

From Wikipedia: Helicopters 26 Planes 3
So I guess Wikipedia is wrong too...

Mr Simpson · 26-01-2014 04:37AM

EireGun wrote: »

So I guess Wikipedia is wrong too...

Quite a lot of the time, yes

source · 26-01-2014 09:13AM

EireGun wrote: »

From Wikipedia: Helicopters 26 Planes 3
So I guess Wikipedia is wrong too...

Well actually this is from the LAPD Air Support Division Wikipedia page:

Current numbers[edit]
14 American Eurocopter AS350B-2 A-Star
5 Bell 206 JetRanger
1 Beechcraft King Air 200

So I really don't know where you're getting your "facts" from.

Anywho, has anyone any ideas on the Hyundai's? have they been released to stations yet? I'm mad to see one marked up, not sure why, I just think they'll look a bit odd.

26-01-2014 10:11AM

source wrote: »

Well actually this is from the LAPD Air Support Division Wikipedia page:

So I really don't know where you're getting your "facts" from.

Anywho, has anyone any ideas on the Hyundai's? have they been released to stations yet? I'm mad to see one marked up, not sure why, I just think they'll look a bit odd.

Someone said Carlow might have an i40.

POGAN · 26-01-2014 11:00AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Someone said Carlow might have an i40.

Yup they do foreign

EireGun · 26-01-2014 04:10PM

source wrote: »

Well actually this is from the LAPD Air Support Division Wikipedia page:

So I really don't know where you're getting your "facts" from.

Anywho, has anyone any ideas on the Hyundai's? have they been released to stations yet? I'm mad to see one marked up, not sure why, I just think they'll look a bit odd.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Police_Department

Look on the right hand side facts, go down to "Facilities" and it says "Areas
21[show]
Police Boats 2
Helicopters 26
Planes 3
Horses 40
Dogs 2 Bloodhounds
20 German Shepherds"

Now get over it.

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