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Vehicle Gallery - Discussion Thread

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This is a discussion thread for the ES vehicle Gallery here

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EireGun

westdub wrote: »

Never believe everything on Wikipedia as the facts are often wrong or deliberately put up by people messing...

From the Official LAPD web site....

http://www.lapdonline.org/air_support_division/content_basic_view/1179

Also their equipment page makes a lot of country's army's look under-armed...:eek:
http://www.lapdonline.org/lapd_equipment

Fair enough, but your man makes it out as if I was lying. Repeating incorrect facts is not lying.

westdub

Never believe everything on Wikipedia as the facts are often wrong or deliberately put up by people messing...

From the Official LAPD web site....

The "Helicopter Unit" experienced major expansion in 1974 and became officially designated as Air Support Division (ASD). Air Support Division consisted of 77 sworn personnel with 15 helicopters and a Cessna 210 in it’s fleet.

The fleet remained virtually unchanged until 1988 when the first Aerospatiale AS350B-1 was added to the fleet. Today at full capacity, the fleet consists of:
14 - Eurocopter AS350B2

5 - Bell Jet Ranger B3s

1 - King Air Fixed Wing

A study commissioned by NASA and conducted by the Jet Propulsion Laboratory’s (JPL) Space Technology Applications Office confirmed the study and report findings as follows:
The number of Part 1 Property Crimes is reduced when an LAPD helicopter is overhead.

The number of arrests associated with radio calls is three times higher with the involvement of LAPD aircrews.

The citizens of Los Angeles accept helicopter patrols as a necessary part of the City’s police system and strongly favor their continuation.

Department ground based officers universally support a strong airborne law enforcement program within the department.

http://www.lapdonline.org/air_support_division/content_basic_view/1179

Also their equipment page makes a lot of country's army's look under-armed...:eek:
http://www.lapdonline.org/lapd_equipment

EireGun

source wrote: »

Well actually this is from the LAPD Air Support Division Wikipedia page:

So I really don't know where you're getting your "facts" from.

Anywho, has anyone any ideas on the Hyundai's? have they been released to stations yet? I'm mad to see one marked up, not sure why, I just think they'll look a bit odd.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Police_Department

Look on the right hand side facts, go down to "Facilities" and it says "Areas
21[show]
Police Boats 2
Helicopters 26
Planes 3
Horses 40
Dogs 2 Bloodhounds
20 German Shepherds"

Now get over it.

POGAN

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Someone said Carlow might have an i40.

Yup they do foreign

[Deleted User]

source wrote: »

Well actually this is from the LAPD Air Support Division Wikipedia page:

So I really don't know where you're getting your "facts" from.

Anywho, has anyone any ideas on the Hyundai's? have they been released to stations yet? I'm mad to see one marked up, not sure why, I just think they'll look a bit odd.

Someone said Carlow might have an i40.

source

EireGun wrote: »

From Wikipedia: Helicopters 26 Planes 3
So I guess Wikipedia is wrong too...

Well actually this is from the LAPD Air Support Division Wikipedia page:

Current numbers[edit]
14 American Eurocopter AS350B-2 A-Star
5 Bell 206 JetRanger
1 Beechcraft King Air 200

So I really don't know where you're getting your "facts" from.

Anywho, has anyone any ideas on the Hyundai's? have they been released to stations yet? I'm mad to see one marked up, not sure why, I just think they'll look a bit odd.

Mr Simpson

EireGun wrote: »

So I guess Wikipedia is wrong too...

Quite a lot of the time, yes

EireGun

source wrote: »

I know I said I wasn't going to reply to you but you're so incredibly wrong I just have to post this:

http://www.lapdonline.org/air_support_division/content_basic_view/1179

14 + 5 = 19

From Wikipedia: Helicopters 26 Planes 3
So I guess Wikipedia is wrong too...

source

EireGun wrote: »

I brought up the other points about cost-cutting in the Gardai in the same capacity in which you brought up LA's GMP. Nothing ridiculous about that.

And by the way, the LAPD have 26 helicopters, not 19, and 3 fixed wing aircraft, not 1.

I know I said I wasn't going to reply to you but you're so incredibly wrong I just have to post this:

http://www.lapdonline.org/air_support_division/content_basic_view/1179

The fleet remained virtually unchanged until 1988 when the first Aerospatiale AS350B-1 was added to the fleet. Today at full capacity, the fleet consists of:
14 - Eurocopter AS350B2
5 - Bell Jet Ranger B3s
1 - King Air Fixed Wing

14 + 5 = 19

EireGun

source wrote: »

And with ridiculous comments like that I'm out.

It's very obvious if you read my post why I brought up LA's GMP, and what it has to do with their police helicopters. I feel at this stage that you're probably flaming, so having made my point, I'll bow out of this conversation now.

I brought up the other points about cost-cutting in the Gardai in the same capacity in which you brought up LA's GMP. Nothing ridiculous about that.

And by the way, the LAPD have 26 helicopters, not 19, and 3 fixed wing aircraft, not 1.

source

EireGun wrote: »

If that's the case, neither does LA's GMP, which you brought up.

And with ridiculous comments like that I'm out.

It's very obvious if you read my post why I brought up LA's GMP, and what it has to do with their police helicopters. I feel at this stage that you're probably flaming, so having made my point, I'll bow out of this conversation now.

EireGun

source wrote: »

As to the rest of your post, it has nothing to do with vehicles so it has no place in this thread.

If that's the case, neither does LA's GMP, which you brought up.

source

EireGun wrote: »

No, they don't. LAPD budget for the last year was $1.4 billion (€1 billion), Garda budget for the last year was $1.9 billion (€1.4 billion).
Garda budget is higher by $500 million or €370 million.

Your figures are also misleading, because the LAPD serves the city of LA (3,792,621 inhabitants), while your GMP figure refers to the Los Angeles–Long Beach–Santa Ana metropolitan area, which has 13,000,000 inhabitants, 3 and a half times that of the city of LA, and is served by various different police forces.

Last year the Gardai reduced flying hours for the Garda helicopters from 1,800 flying hours annually to 800, a cut of more than half. To achieve savings of just €400,000. Now they are reducing the number of Detectives and plainclothes personnel carrying firearms, to save less than €2 million, despite an increase in the Garda budget this year. Sounds like the government are they are trying dismantle the force. Meanwhile, the Army Ranger Wing increases in size by a third (not that I oppose that), but the Special Detective Unit had NO firearms training or range practice in the last 3 months of 2013 due to cost savings. Instead of qualifying with a firearm 3 times a year, they now only do it once (to save money on ammunition), while the SDU has also lost dozens of unmarked cars due to retirement and remarking, not replaced. The scheme to replace the SDU's UZI smgs with H&K MP7 (in the works since 2008) has been cancelled. Farcical situation.

The reason I quoted GDP/GMP as opposed to the police forces budgets, is that helicopters would be classed as a capital investment, and so would not come out of the forces regular budget. But would be counted as once off purchases, which would come out of the state or city's budget. The LA economic area has a GMP of $765bn means they have much more money for capital investment than Ireland with a GDP of $210bn.

That is why LAPD can afford to have 19 helicopters and 1 fixed wing aircraft. As to the rest of your post, it has nothing to do with vehicles so it has no place in this thread.

heffomike54

Thanks for the info on the ANPR system for bikes, was thinking it would be hard to fit on a bike alright!

Terrontress

heffomike54 wrote: »

Quick random question folks, Can ANPR systems be mounted on a motor bike and if so, has anyone a link to a picture of it? Thanks in advance

I'd imagine that ANPR needs a second occupant in the car to make most use of the video facilities etc. A motorcyclist police has to be extremely alert to the road around him.

Capri

Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: »

as plain as it is i like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM8zugFLVrc

You'd have to fear for the Health and Safety of those Danish police :rolleyes: , or maybe they just don't like to slavishly follow the UK battenberg style, and the Danes are safer drivers

BaronVon

heffomike54 wrote: »

Quick random question folks, Can ANPR systems be mounted on a motor bike and if so, has anyone a link to a picture of it? Thanks in advance

There's quite a bit of computer equipment that comes with ANPR, I wouldn't imagine there would be enough room left on a bike after you allow for the radio and sirens/blue lights!

EireGun

heffomike54 wrote: »

Quick random question folks, Can ANPR systems be mounted on a motor bike and if so, has anyone a link to a picture of it? Thanks in advance

I haven't heard of it or seen it before (as in "mounted on a motor bike"), although I'm sure it's possible and been done somewhere. Closest I've seen online is a stationary motorbike plugged into a stationary ANPR camera in the UK... http://www.flickr.com/photos/humbersidepolicepics/8027072602/

POGAN

heffomike54 wrote: »

Quick random question folks, Can ANPR systems be mounted on a motor bike and if so, has anyone a link to a picture of it? Thanks in advance

No there only in limited amount of cars

heffomike54

Quick random question folks, Can ANPR systems be mounted on a motor bike and if so, has anyone a link to a picture of it? Thanks in advance

EireGun

source wrote: »

Ireland GDP for 2012 was $210.4bn
Los Angeles GMP for 2012 was $765bn

They have more money so they get more toys.

No, they don't. LAPD budget for the last year was $1.4 billion (€1 billion), Garda budget for the last year was $1.9 billion (€1.4 billion).
Garda budget is higher by $500 million or €370 million.

Your figures are also misleading, because the LAPD serves the city of LA (3,792,621 inhabitants), while your GMP figure refers to the Los Angeles–Long Beach–Santa Ana metropolitan area, which has 13,000,000 inhabitants, 3 and a half times that of the city of LA, and is served by various different police forces.

Last year the Gardai reduced flying hours for the Garda helicopters from 1,800 flying hours annually to 800, a cut of more than half. To achieve savings of just €400,000. Now they are reducing the number of Detectives and plainclothes personnel carrying firearms, to save less than €2 million, despite an increase in the Garda budget this year. Sounds like the government are they are trying dismantle the force. Meanwhile, the Army Ranger Wing increases in size by a third (not that I oppose that), but the Special Detective Unit had NO firearms training or range practice in the last 3 months of 2013 due to cost savings. Instead of qualifying with a firearm 3 times a year, they now only do it once (to save money on ammunition), while the SDU has also lost dozens of unmarked cars due to retirement and remarking, not replaced. The scheme to replace the SDU's UZI smgs with H&K MP7 (in the works since 2008) has been cancelled. Farcical situation.

source

EireGun wrote: »

Los Angeles Police Department, a slightly smaller force than the Gardai with 10,000 officers compared to 13,000, and serving a population of 3.8 million over a smaller area compared to 4.5 million have 26 helicopters and 3 planes v 2 helicopters and 1 plane that the Gardai have. What a joke.

Ireland GDP for 2012 was $210.4bn
Los Angeles GMP for 2012 was $765bn

They have more money so they get more toys.

3fullback

EireGun wrote: »

Los Angeles Police Department, a slightly smaller force than the Gardai with 10,000 officers compared to 13,000, and serving a population of 3.8 million over a smaller area compared to 4.5 million have 26 helicopters and 3 planes v 2 helicopters and 1 plane that the Gardai have. What a joke.

I know its hard to compare L.A. to Ireland but its a very interesting point! I would'nt say LA has 26 times more crime however ? Certainly there is practicality in having an AGS Helicopter based in each of the 6 divisions. The same could be said for Dog Units. Two resources which seem to be completely under utilised by AGS outside of the DMR. I certainly believe if dogs were allocated to each division it would lead to more captures/finds for drugs,person searches etc. Also it would'nt be a major cost to implement.

Scouser

EireGun wrote: »

Los Angeles Police Department, a slightly smaller force than the Gardai with 10,000 officers compared to 13,000, and serving a population of 3.8 million over a smaller area compared to 4.5 million have 26 helicopters and 3 planes v 2 helicopters and 1 plane that the Gardai have. What a joke.

and crime stats off the charts in comparison

donvito99

EireGun wrote: »

Los Angeles Police Department, a slightly smaller force than the Gardai with 10,000 officers compared to 13,000, and serving a population of 3.8 million over a smaller area compared to 4.5 million have 26 helicopters and 3 planes v 2 helicopters and 1 plane that the Gardai have. What a joke.

LA cannot be compared with the Republic of Ireland.

EireGun

Los Angeles Police Department, a slightly smaller force than the Gardai with 10,000 officers compared to 13,000, and serving a population of 3.8 million over a smaller area compared to 4.5 million have 26 helicopters and 3 planes v 2 helicopters and 1 plane that the Gardai have. What a joke.

[Deleted User]

Terrontress wrote: »

They did a survey on Twitter to make a decision, allegedly.

Same thing with whether to issue hi viz or black jackets.

They must presume that every twitter user has a desire to see the police operate as effectively as possible.

Have you seen how many give out about their helicopters? @mpsinthesky

Terrontress

belacqua_ wrote: »

@Capri, I believe the Met's use of both jam sandwich and battenburg is similar to here: the latter marking is reserved for their traffic branch.

*edit. The above used to be the case, but it looks like they're changing the entire fleet over to battenburg. End of an era.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/new-batternburg-police-car-designs-63115

They did a survey on Twitter to make a decision, allegedly.

Same thing with whether to issue hi viz or black jackets.

They must presume that every twitter user has a desire to see the police operate as effectively as possible.

[Deleted User]

belacqua_ wrote: »

@Capri, I believe the Met's use of both jam sandwich and battenburg is similar to here: the latter marking is reserved for their traffic branch.

*edit. The above used to be the case, but it looks like they're changing the entire fleet over to battenburg. End of an era.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/new-batternburg-police-car-designs-63115

As you say, they are going battenburg. It's a national livery thing.

belacqua_

@Capri, I believe the Met's use of both jam sandwich and battenburg is similar to here: the latter marking is reserved for their traffic branch.

*edit. The above used to be the case, but it looks like they're changing the entire fleet over to battenburg. End of an era.

http://www.lbc.co.uk/new-batternburg-police-car-designs-63115