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Poet, Activist, Parkinson's sufferer and Granny (79) gets jailed for 6 months.

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    #122
    aaabbbb
    Registered Users Posts: 1,674 ✭✭✭aaabbbb


    jimboblep wrote: »
    She willfully broke the law in this state it doesnt matter what your motives or principles are the law is the law
    Also she had an opportunity to stay out of prison and decided not to take it
    To all the bleeding hearts talking about the evil US unless they are breaking our laws on our territory its nothing to do with us and all the angst in the world wont change a thing

    I'm fairly sure participating in abduction , kidnap and torture are against at least one or two Irish laws....


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    #123
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    jimboblep wrote: »
    So if somone doesnt agree with a law on principle its ok to break it

    It's the spirit of protest, legitimate or otherwise. Ever heard of Rosa Parks? She broke the law and was a catalyst for change.

    I hope that's not too bleeding heart for you but it's bleeding obvious that change comes about through such actions.


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    #124
    jimboblep
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    aaabbbb wrote: »
    I'm fairly sure participating in abduction , kidnap and torture are against at least one or two Irish laws....

    If its perpetrated in irish territory it is yes


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    #125
    returnNull
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭returnNull


    end of the road wrote: »
    sometimes the law has to be broken
    one person does it,they're an idiot.

    3 people do it , they are idiots.

    Thousands do it , then yes the law has to be changed.

    At the moment they are just idiots.


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    #126
    jimboblep
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    old hippy wrote: »
    It's the spirit of protest, legitimate or otherwise. Ever heard of Rosa Parks? She broke the law and was a catalyst for change.

    I hope that's not too bleeding heart for you but it's bleeding obvious that change comes about through such actions.

    Did rosa parks endanger lives directly


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    #127
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    jimboblep wrote: »
    Did rosa parks endanger lives directly

    Yes, white lives. That white passenger might have passed away due to the shock of not being given Rosa's seat.

    But hey, that's just liberal talk and someone else's problem - nothing to do with us, right? :D


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    #128
    jimboblep
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    old hippy wrote: »
    Yes, white lives. That white passenger might have passed away due to the shock of not being given Rosa's seat.

    But hey, that's just liberal talk and someone else's problem - nothing to do with us, right? :D

    Bit of a silly comeback


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    #129
    old hippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    jimboblep wrote: »
    Bit of a silly comeback

    Bit of a silly question to begin with


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    #130
    jimboblep
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    old hippy wrote: »
    Bit of a silly question to begin with

    How so i asked if rosa parks endangered a life directly and just so we understand each other i applaud her bravery, my issue in this particular case is this woman endangered lives by walking onto an active runway
    Their is a legitimate reason why runways are restricted she broke the law
    So i ask again is it ok to break the law and endanger other people to safisfy our principles


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    #131
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    old hippy wrote: »
    Bit of a silly question to begin with

    Why was it silly?


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    #132
    Happyman42
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    Amazing to see in type how the Irish have wimped out for the yankee dolla. Sad too.


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    #133
    jimboblep
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Amazing to see in type how the Irish have wimped out for the yankee dolla. Sad too.

    I fail to see how this particular case is wimping out to the yankee doller
    The woman broke the law was arrested and prosecuted under irish law
    The americans had absolutly zero involvement in the case
    She has a legitimate right to protest but this is not a licence to break the law


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    #134
    returnNull
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭returnNull


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Amazing to see in type how the Irish have wimped out for the yankee dolla. Sad too.
    Better than yuans or rubles....2 cultures that are completely alien to us


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    #135
    kupus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    The recent push by the UK/US and others to intervene directly in Syria was defeated because politicians are listening to people like those who were against the war in Iraq.

    Ah, there is a big country that get in the way of your so called fact.
    Russia. The uk us did not invade because of russia.
    Its a big country that has nuclear weapons and is ramping up their empire building again after their breakdown of the 90's

    liberal lefty loons out walking had nothing to do with it.

    Also expect in the future for Russia to deal severely with Saudi Arabia.
    During the Spring/summer Saudi arabia threatened Russia saying they will send chechens in to bomb russia during winter olympics if russia kept on supporting assad.....they didnt stop And as we saw there was a few bombs let off. There will be more.

    So russia is already organising armed groups from the former states and a few other allies to send to syria....I wonder what the response from usa/uk gov will be.


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    #136
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    jimboblep wrote: »
    I fail to see how this particular case is wimping out to the yankee doller
    The woman broke the law was arrested and prosecuted under irish law
    The americans had absolutly zero involvement in the case
    She has a legitimate right to protest but this is not a licence to break the law

    If the yankee's were not in Shannon...sod it, couldn't be bothered, really couldn't be bothered getting into this. I'll go do something productive on her behalf.


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    #137
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    kupus wrote: »
    Ah, there is a big country that get in the way of your so called fact.
    Russia...

    Bla bla bla Russia bla bla bla.

    The US/UK/Saudi didn't give a shit about annoying the Soviet Union (Afghanistan) when it actually posed a bit of a threat and you think they're now all scared?

    Clueless.


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    #138
    jimboblep
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    Bla bla bla Russia bla bla bla.

    The US/UK/Saudi didn't give a shit about annoying the Soviet Union (Afghanistan) when it actually posed a bit of a threat and you think they're now all scared?

    Clueless.

    The russians do have a naval base in syria and were deploying warships to the area while i dont think this is the only reason the US backed off to think it was purely because of anti war protests is massively overestimating their importance


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    #139
    enfant terrible
    Registered Users Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Amazing to see in type how the Irish have wimped out for the yankee dolla. Sad too.

    Agreed as a protest I now refuse to work for any yankee company, watch any yankee films or tv shows or listen to any yankee music.

    Gonna miss Game of Thrones :(


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    #140
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    jimboblep wrote: »
    to think it was purely because of anti war protests is massively overestimating their importance

    The US and UK administration/govt wanted to hammer Syria. The UK parliament voted against it and there was no political will for it in the US.

    The US/UK, along with the Saudis, would love to have Iran's ally removed from the game. The great showdown between Americky and the Russians only features in the minds of war comic readers who are lovers of explosions, shock-and-awe, bright colours and shiny things.


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    #141
    jimboblep
    Registered Users Posts: 546 ✭✭✭jimboblep


    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    The US and UK administration/govt wanted to hammer Syria. The UK parliament voted against it and there was no political will for it in the US.

    The US/UK, along with the Saudis, would love to have Iran's ally removed from the game. The Russians only feature in the minds of war comic readers who are lovers of explosions, shock-and-awe, bright colours and shiny things.

    So if anti war protesters are so important why didnt the biggest anti war protests of all time(before the iraq war) fail to halt that senseless conflict
    As i mentioned previously russia was a factor as the naval base is considered sovereign russian territory and how do you think they wouldve reacted to an assault on their territory which is how they would of viewed it
    Also russia was bolstering its forces in the area with additional warships to deny russia as a factor in the equation is a little bit naive


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    #142
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    opinionated3 wrote: »
    Delighted she got sent down. Sick of these crusties hanging around like a bad smell at our airport. Most local people around Shannon are happy to have the US military use the airport despite the propaganda that groups like shannonwatch like to peddle.
    opinionated3 wrote: »
    I have nothing to be ashamed of buddy. Very happy to support the US military in their pursuit of the likes of the taliban and al qaeda wherever they may be. That's the way I look at it. You may not agree and that's fine. ... that's your opinion. Shannonwatch would have everyone believe that the whole irish populace is against the military using Shannon. Not the case

    Oh right, the likes of the taliban and al qaeda...oh, you have much to learn about the world...

    I think it's shameful that we enable the US military to do what they do. No backbone whatsoever in this country. This video was shocking to watch, I'm sure the soldier's shoes are well shined.



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    #143
    WilyCoyote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    old hippy wrote: »
    Yes, I'm bisexual and am pretty open about it. Most posters here that I debate with are aware of that. I fail to see what bearing my sexuality has on the discussion, though?

    If so, why bring it up?


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    #144
    WilyCoyote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    He seemed to get bogged down in his utterances a few minutes into his answer. Did he not do public speaking at college? Regardless whether you agree or disagree with him, his answer loses some gravitas in his inability to articulate those beliefs.


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    #145
    renegademaster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    opinionated3 wrote: »
    I have nothing to be ashamed of buddy. Very happy to support the US military in their pursuit of the likes of the taliban and al qaeda wherever they may be. That's the way I look at it. You may not agree and that's fine. ... that's your opinion. Shannonwatch would have everyone believe that the whole irish populace is against the military using Shannon. Not the case

    they're working with taliban and al CIAda, conspiring with them, funding them, arming them, using them as patsys in proxy wars

    war on terror me fcuking hole!!


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    #146
    renegademaster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    kupus wrote: »
    Ah, there is a big country that get in the way of your so called fact.
    Russia. The uk us did not invade because of russia.
    Its a big country that has nuclear weapons and is ramping up their empire building again after their breakdown of the 90's

    liberal lefty loons out walking had nothing to do with it.

    Also expect in the future for Russia to deal severely with Saudi Arabia.
    During the Spring/summer Saudi arabia threatened Russia saying they will send chechens in to bomb russia during winter olympics if russia kept on supporting assad.....they didnt stop And as we saw there was a few bombs let off. There will be more.

    So russia is already organising armed groups from the former states and a few other allies to send to syria....I wonder what the response from usa/uk gov will be.

    it's crazy to think Putin walked into a room with 7 of the other leaders of the world and they all walked out of that meeting with their tail between their legs!!


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    #147
    renegademaster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    jimboblep wrote: »
    So if anti war protesters are so important why didnt the biggest anti war protests of all time(before the iraq war) fail to halt that senseless conflict

    simply because they didn't go far enough, knowing what we know now and ifwe could go back in time would you join the protestors until the US\UK fcuked off with their phoney war???


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    #148
    joe swanson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭joe swanson


    She only has herself to blame.


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    #149
    Guy:Incognito
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    end of the road wrote: »
    sometimes the law has to be broken, this is one of those occasions
    .

    So do we defer to you when we decide whether its a legitimate enough reason or do we decide ourselves? I'm sure everyone thinks their reasons for doing things are legitimate.


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    #150
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Chucken wrote: »
    Limerick prison is not like that.
    Granted, I'm basing it mostly on what I know of Mountjoy, but they're both Dochas Centres, Limerick women's prison is definitely not a steel-doored, ****-in-front-of-everyone-else kind of prison.


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    #151
    DwightSchrute1
    Registered Users Posts: 309 ✭✭DwightSchrute1


    renegademaster wrote: »
    they're working with taliban and al CIAda, conspiring with them, funding them, arming them, using them as patsys in proxy wars

    war on terror me fcuking hole!!

    I think you're looking for the Conspiracy Theories forum!


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