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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Beef wrote: »
    Christ you're flying it at the moment aul fella! What's the marathon target? What was it 6 weeks ago? ;)

    2.59.59 is the main thing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    belcarra wrote: »
    Surprised you thought typing would hurt your foot! ;-)

    I did that session last night and it went surprisingly well too. I think I was dreading the weather and wind much more than the pace.

    Read your blog, don't think I'll be revisiting it due to some shameful photos and non running references. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 631 ✭✭✭Cleanman


    Great going RK! You've put in a huge month of training since I showed you how to drink Guinness last month;)

    Has there been any calf issues since your comeback? If you're getting through the last month of training with no issues, then you've no excuses...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Cleanman wrote: »
    Great going RK! You've put in a huge month of training since I showed you how to drink Guinness last month;)

    Has there been any calf issues since your comeback? If you're getting through the last month of training with no issues, then you've no excuses...

    Thanks Cleanman - I greatly appreciated your education on drinking Guinness - Obviously I needed more practice than you as I was outdrinking you 2 to 1 :)

    regarding the calf - no issues at all, Over the Christmas I've done less stretching/foam rolling than normal, so will take this as a timely reminder to get that aspect sorted!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    I'm going to have to avoid this log for a while...i can't stick seeing all the good training while I sit idle! ;)

    Seriously, very impressive work going on here at the moment. Couple of more months of this and its going to be a great race in Manchester.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Thursday 9th: 6.25m @ 8:25 pace. Nice easy/recovery run.

    Friday 10th: 6.44m @ 7:58 pace - hoped to do 10m today, but life got in the way.
    Running an easy run in the rain is not as much fun as doing a run 'with stuff' in the rain :).

    That's 2 easy runs back to back - felt a bit guilty after this given the relative intensity of the plan.

    Back to back easy runs is how its going to be for the next few weeks (race weeks aside) - so a good opportunity to reintroduce strides/hill sprints into one of these days. (it's suggested in the plan).

    Saturday 11th: Plan: 19-22 with final 4 at MP

    Met up with The Bitter Lemon for this run and showed him the sights of the PP.
    Nice easy mile to get things going and the miles just rolled along - I introduced him to Military Road, Upper Glen Road and the Furry glen - didn't do the Khyber today - save that for another day :)
    Before we new it 9 miles in - I took Water & a gel.

    Back out again for another loop - the average pace decreasing all the time which was good.
    I had planned to do 4@MP once we hit 16 - so we took a detour to ensure we were on Chesterfield for that section.
    Into the MP section and as usual I found myself at MP-30 sec for the first 600m or so :rolleyes: - dialed it back down drastically.

    As I turned around to go up chesterfield, TBL was right behind me - think he was sandbagging the pace on those earlier 16 miles.

    The MP section going up C'Field felt tough - I wanted to stop, but the thoughts of being passed by that smug gig TBL spurred me on and I kept going.
    Turned again and he was still just behind me - thankfully I had kept going.

    Reached the car to find that the MP section was only 3.75 miles - I was going to run around the car park for 0.25 miles, but I'm too cool for that (and Meno would just slag me about it).
    TBL came in just behind me (Q Digger comments) to complete a very nice run.

    Amazing how the long runs go so much faster with company.

    19.75 mile with 3.75m @ MP.

    MP miles (6:42/6:54/6:52/6:47)

    Delighted with this weeks running - 62.62miles - another week with a 'highest weekly mileage ever' status.

    4 weeks into the plan and the body feels good - enjoying it so far and feel strong physically and mentally as a result of it.
    Next week is a bit less intense session wise and the long run is shorter - so a good change to keep the mileage high but get some recovery in.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,762 ✭✭✭✭ecoli


    Back to back easy runs, high consistent mileage and what looks like (bar an initial surge) controlled MP miles? Who are you and what have you done with AuldmanKing :D

    Very solid week keep it up man :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    ecoli wrote: »
    Back to back easy runs, high consistent mileage and what looks like (bar an initial surge) controlled MP miles? Who are you and what have you done with AuldmanKing :D

    Cue another name change!:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    was going to bring the dog for a walk and decided to do a very slow recovery run instead.

    3.94m @ 9:46 pace (not a typo :) ).

    Now I know what a "real" recovery run feels like.


    weekly mileage 66.6 :eek: - should've done an extra 0.1m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Monday 13th: Plan: 7-10m with 4x1m (MP +/- 10 secs)

    Nice lunchtime workout. Not a very intense session, but nice to get it done early with decent mileage.

    2.46m warm up to Chesterfield then set off into the reps - 1st one was down Chesterfield, 2nd & 3rd rep took in Military hill, S Bends and the long drag of the Upper Glen Road. Final rep was the top of UGR then flat enough. 1.94m jog home.

    Run to PP: 2.46m @ 7:53
    Rep 1: 6:45
    Rep 2: 6:40
    Rep 3: 6:41
    Rep 4: 6:37
    Jog home 1.94 @ 7:55

    Kept the 3 min recoveries at ~8 min miles

    Overall 9.87 miles @ 7:26


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    How did that MP feel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    blockic wrote: »
    How did that MP feel?

    Last one felt tough tbh, I knew I was pushing it to the top end of the range (6:50 +/- 10s).
    I included the hills/drags to get some strength work in there as well as I gathered doing MP mile reps would be ok'ish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Nice going.

    Did you take 3 mins recovery between each rep? I know it's in the plan but what's the point? Why not just run 4 straight mp miles...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    Gavlor wrote: »
    Nice going.

    Did you take 3 mins recovery between each rep? I know it's in the plan but what's the point? Why not just run 4 straight mp miles...

    Ya, I think that recommendation for the recovery is a hangover from the usual Interval session that is done quite a bit faster (5k or 10k pace). I'd agree with you there Gavlor, no sense in taking recovery breaks here!
    Bit of an odd 'Interval' session for the plan in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Gavlor wrote: »
    Nice going.

    Did you take 3 mins recovery between each rep? I know it's in the plan but what's the point? Why not just run 4 straight mp miles...

    I did take the recovery (@8 min/miles) - I think the recovery was included as it was so close to the 20m with 4 at MP from the weekend?
    I thought about splitting into 2x2m efforts, but decided to follow the plan....'cos that's how I roll these days :cool:

    It's the only time it appears on the plan, so not going to over complicate things by thinking too much about it :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭drquirky


    I did take the recovery (@8 min/miles) - I think the recovery was included as it was so close to the 20m with 4 at MP from the weekend?
    I thought about splitting into 2x2m efforts, but decided to follow the plan....'cos that's how I roll these days :cool:

    It's the only time it appears on the plan, so not going to over complicate things by thinking too much about it :P

    Ah come on lads in fairness AMK gets a load of **** every time he "goes off the reservation" and now everyone is questioning a workout that was in his plan?

    I think stick to the plan and you'll be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    drquirky wrote: »
    Ah come on lads in fairness AMK gets a load of **** every time he "goes off the reservation" and now everyone is questioning a workout that was in his plan?

    I think stick to the plan and you'll be fine.

    I was only curious as I'll be doing that session in a couple of weeks. Poor AMK is the crash test dummy for this programme so there'll be plenty more basic questions for him ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    drquirky wrote: »
    Ah come on lads in fairness AMK gets a load of **** every time he "goes off the reservation" and now everyone is questioning a workout that was in his plan?

    I think stick to the plan and you'll be fine.

    ha ha - hadn't thought of it like that!

    Although I think Gavlor & Belcarra have ulterior motives as they are adapting following the same plan.
    Be interested to see what they did/do with that specific workout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Ferris B


    Nice bit of running there AMK. Where can I find this new program you have introduced. If I survive conn ultra I'll be looking for a decent marathon program for Berlin. At the moment it's between Daniels and P&D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    Ferris B wrote: »
    Nice bit of running there AMK. Where can I find this new program you have introduced. If I survive conn ultra I'll be looking for a decent marathon program for Berlin. At the moment it's between Daniels and P&D.

    http://www.baa.org/programs/training-programs/marathon-training/advanced-16-week-program.aspx


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Ferris B


    Gavlor wrote: »

    Thanks. I guess I can wait to see how you guys get on in Spring before I commit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    btw - Gavlor is my lovely assistant & despite my wishes continues to wear high heels and mini skirts around me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭Gavlor


    btw - Gavlor is my lovely assistant & despite my wishes continues to wear high heels and mini skirts around me.

    That's only 'coz yer missus insists on keepin me jocks as a trophy :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭Ferris B


    Gavlor wrote: »
    That's only 'coz yer missus insists on keepin me jocks as a trophy :cool:

    Why do I get the feeling I've just wandered into a strange bar and all these guys in tight leather chaps are staring at me....:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭Beef


    Came in to read about training runs. Backs out slowly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Back to training log..........

    Tuesday 14th: Plan 5-7 easy:

    7.1m @ 8:16 pace.
    Nice easy run this, down to the PP and back - wore the leggings and will probably dump them as I keep getting chaffing when I wear them :o

    Done about 50 mins of stretching/core work/back&upper body work and felt the better for it.
    I'm using a program from an app 'Gorilla Workout' - so its a progressive and targeted core work out.

    Wed 15th: Plan: MLR 10-13 miles Steady (MP+30 sec approx.)

    12.32 miles @ 7:03 pace (I know......I know......seriously, I know....)

    Woke up and the legs felt great from the previous nights stretching.
    This was a lunchtime run 'sandwiched' between some meetings.

    Felt strong from the off, the first few miles were slightly downhill, so this helped to find a rhythm.
    2nd half was slight uphill, the pace dropped slightly (6:56 v 7:06) but still felt like a steady run as I was feeling very strong.
    Could have went further at same pace.

    With 2 easy days to follow and a shortened long run on Saturday, I felt ok about being a bit faster - it wouldn't detract from my future workouts. I would have dialed it back if I felt it would have impacted future sessions.

    This was one of those runs where I wished I could bottle the feeling I had and open it on April 6th :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Ososlo


    And yet another reason (as if we need one) as to why men should not wear leggings :)
    Toughen up man. It's really not that cold ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭blockic


    1) Do you work anymore?
    2) Do your family see you?

    :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭belcarra


    Although I think Gavlor & Belcarra have ulterior motives as they are adapting following the same plan.
    Be interested to see what they did/do with that specific workout.
    Did this run last night and did 7km continuous. Recovery is for the weak!:D
    This was a lunchtime run 'sandwiched' between some meetings.

    I see what you did there, nice work!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,802 ✭✭✭statss


    good man, all going well so far touch would.


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