If you knew your neighbour was a dole cheat would you report him/her

Big Steve wrote: »

I disagree with how obvious it is. I reported a friend of my aunts for falsely claiming disability. She bought a house in turkey during the boom and hurt her back while over there. She told the welfare she did it in work because she was told that she would get less money each week if they knew where and when she did it. She was also working a job cash in hand aswell as claiming falsely anyway so I reported her and she was caught.

Another Girl was claiming lone parents and had a council house but she got married and never registered the marraige. She also lived in a house she rented in coolock (near her family). She used the council house as literally a weekend home to go out with her mates. I reported her and her husband and they got caught and had the council house taken off them and their payments adjusted because of the false claim.



I implore everyone to report welfare fraud no matter how big or small. They more people hear about others being caught etc. the less people, that will in turn, be likely to try it.

I said certain categories/sections,didnt name them nor will i but we all know at least 1 person who is doing it in some way shape or form,but once caught out these people get minimal penalties,except in severe cases.

I would not report anyone out of principle, but I don't condone welfare fraud either...

The Department of Social Welfare have their own investigative agencies/departments, let them earn their keep.

The_Pretender wrote: »

Can ask exactly what principle is stopping you?

The principle of not being an informant, it's the way I was raised.

MonstaMash wrote: »

Neither, I mind my own business & move along.

I'm selfish in the fact that if it doesn't affect me, I don't want to know & yes quite frankly, I would expect the Garda to do his job :eek:

You do realise that liability being decided in a case sometimes comes down to witness statements? Would you be happy to know that your refusal to provide a witness statement or pretend you saw nothing could seriously impact on someone who was badly injured in a crash for example or stabbed in an assault?
If you wouldn't help others in these situations, I presume you wouldn't accept their help either?

As for the OP, yes I would report a dole cheat. If you are entitled to it, you will get it. You won't get it if you're not entitled to it.

The_Pretender wrote: »

But why though? It doesn't sound like you refuse to do it out of fear of being caught so what's the problem? This effects everyone, and takes away money that could be better spent in other areas.

But many things like court cases rely largely upon eye witness accounts. So if everyone like you it's possible the streets would have far more criminals on them :eek:

Re., Question 1: No problem, I just find informing an affront to my own personal code of ethics.

Re., Question 2: I spend a lot of my time giving evidence in court in a professional capacity.

I choose not to get involved in witness accounts, court appearances etc., in a personal capacity.

Hmmm where are all these tracksuit clad Jeremy Kyle types ? At the start of the bail out did they not look into catching these people .. Oh wait they did they investigated how prevalent it could be and realised like most things it's not true it's just a stereotype. A few large scale spongers were taken down that's it. My cousins brothers dog knows some guy who fell out a plane and hurt his back now he's on DA and working painting the spire out in town..... he goes on 15 holidays a year I hear... You know saying something does not make it true. And I will bring this up again “OAP is the largest part of the welfare budget not JSA Or Dole. The only thing I would try and save on is Rent allowance this is artificially keeping up the privet renting sectors prices It’s lose lose for everyone.

I have known a good few people who did this kind of thing, but I could never bring myself to report them because it would just make me a hippocrite. When I was on the dole I wasn't perfect. I did a weekends work cash in hand here and there that would have been more effort to report to the social than it was worth, small enough and so infrequent that it wouldn't have effected my payment (like once every few months) but it would have been a lot of effort and there was always the fear that my payment would be temporarily frozen until they figure out what to do so I didn't bother.

It does grind my gears when I'm talking to someone who has no problem bragging about how much they are ripping off the system but I could never bring myself to report them because I wasn't perfect myself when in the system. I know it's silly and illogical, but that's just how I feel.

Holsten wrote: »

Did the flying in thing ever happen though? I mean where can you fly to/from weekly that gives you a profit after €188?!

It only needs to be done monthly and sometimes less. I think in theory the idea is that you get someone you know here to collect the dole weekly for you at the post office and then only fly over to sign on or for any appointments where you are called into the office. Some areas only require that you sign on every 3 months because they have to deal with too many people. I have no idea how prevalent this is or was, but it is in theory possible to pull off at a profit.