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Today I did some detailing...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭randy hickey


    It's just that if all three of ye that are having problems are using the same foam, and there is the possibility of a batch error with that product,then maybe this is the problem?

    Rollo said:

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Orchard Autocare
    Possibly the lance is clogged and needs cleaning. I had some pro strength foam that was sent out by mistake if its not clogged i can send out a replacement bottle

    Vectra, I think we can safely rule out any clogging issues with your foam lance,(as you probably have the cleanest one in Ireland!),so what foam are you using - or are you getting the same poor results having tried different ones?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Have also tried with the Hyperwash since day one and never got the kind of foam one would expect. Maybe my lance was never working in the first place!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,690 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Vectra, I think we can safely rule out any clogging issues with your foam lance,(as you probably have the cleanest one in Ireland!),so what foam are you using - or are you getting the same poor results having tried different ones?

    One of my lance's is a couple of years old ( Cleancar one ) and I did change the filter once in it but I have no idea what went wrong., It just refused to spray and sort of foam.

    I eventually bought an AD one with the red adjusters,
    While this worked I was never overly impresssed to the level I was when I first got my Cleancar one.

    After 3 or 4 uses and always flushing with hot water I was maorly peed off to see milk flowing out of it, no matter what mix I used.

    I have tried Cotton Candy and some Autobrite foam as well.

    I have a new filter which I am going to fit later today and try again,
    If this fails I don't know what the issue might be.
    Pressure from my washer seesm to be as good as it always was,

    I may have to take a driv to MM someday and let him use it to check.

    Will post back later if I get it sorted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,864 ✭✭✭stimpson


    This is probably the cause of my misty windscreen...

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    I doubt it has been changed in 10 years. There was twigs and all sorts of crap in there. Just need another cold morning to test it now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,690 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Well.
    I stripped only part of the lance. and replaced the filter.

    Was very happy with the outcome.

    Goods used

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    Filled almost to label with foam

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    Filled to just above top of label with warm water

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    Foaming

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    Thickness of foam on ground

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    Dwelling for about 10 ~ 15 mins while cleaning wheels etc..

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    Result of just pressure washing foam from car without washing it.

    Gave it a spray of diluted Demon shine and hosed it off.
    Left it to dry itself

    Happy with the result..

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  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Curious to see the difference myself there Vectra (waiting for the photobucket video to buffer).

    From the pictures it still looks quite runny?

    This is what I feel should be the standard that should be achieved by anyone who has made the investment into a decent lance, power washer and snow foam solution:





    That's what I'm looking to achieve, anyway. An actual foam (as opposed to 'milky' foam). :o


    Unrelatedly;I had €40 on one of those one4all cards, so I took a trip up to Halfords to pick up some bits and bobs (didn't really randomly buy; checked their site in advance to see how I could best get the €40 to travel, so checked reviews and such of the products and only bought things I actually may use, rather than going in and buying anything that has a fancy packaging).


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    So will hopefully get some decent results from them.


    Speaking of fancy packaging though; that Auto Glym stuff is very professional looking (stress the word 'looking', I've never used their stuff before, so they could be crap products). If I were a Detailer I'd slowly but surely be moving on to buying their products. Even if it was to spill them out and fill the bottles with something else. Their packaging is really, really good, in my opinion.

    From what I can tell, all the packaging is identical, but the logo is colour coded for different parts of the car, and the actual product itself has it's name written in smaller lettering under the logo. It looks really, really well.


    Found this picture in a google search;

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    Has to be the best packaging of any of the detailing products on the market? Meguiar's make good stuff, but their packaging is very childlike or 'Tesco-ey' in comparison. The Auto Glym stand in my local Halfords looks the bees knees.

    (I know that's a lot of praise for something as simple as packaging, but I really do think they look great together, and sure isn't detailing all about appearances, anyway! :P ).


    And nope... I don't work for Auto Glym... (though maybe if I keep this up, I will in future?! :P )

    (Edit, upon further looking, it'd appear I made up the colour-coded logo thing.. it's just a random colour for each product. I thought they had one colour for interior, one for exterior body, one for wheels, etc. etc... my bad!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Dont be drawn by the appearance of products. Manufacturers with massive marketing budgets can afford to spend money achieving a quality feel, though the products may be average.

    Take Chemical Guys....some od their bottles were just black and white labels...having said that they've recently splashed out on marketing and updated their labels for most of the range.
    Orchard Auto Care is another that comes to mind. Small company, exceptional products, let down a little due the labels, but cant afford to spend money on marketing; better spent on product development.

    There are other companies that introduce brand new ranges with fancy labels, but their product are average.

    That said, every manufacturer has a few products in their range that are worth a look at, so dont rule out any product on ttheir appearance! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,920 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


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    + 303 Aerospace Protectant =

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    :)


  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Curran wrote: »
    Dont be drawn by the appearance of products. Manufacturers with massive marketing budgets can afford to spend money achieving a quality feel, though the products may be average.

    Take Chemical Guys....some od their bottles were just black and white labels...having said that they've recently splashed out on marketing and updated their labels for most of the range.
    Orchard Auto Care is another that comes to mind. Small company, exceptional products, let down a little due the labels, but cant afford to spend money on marketing; better spent on product development.

    There are other companies that introduce brand new ranges with fancy labels, but their product are average.

    That said, every manufacturer has a few products in their range that are worth a look at, so dont rule out any product on ttheir appearance! ;)


    Oh I'm aware that marketing and promotion are worlds away from product competence. I was just remarking on their products because they seem to be the only company I've seen (so far?) that actually look professional (within the detailing world).

    Chemical Guyz stuff is good in that it looks quite 'no nonsense'. Their products work so they don't necessarily need to spend an arm and a leg on product packaging (and considering they seem to try and come across as 'young and rebellious', they're probably better off not having a budget for that kind of thing).


    Meguiar's, a premium brand, just don't seem to have their image tie in too well with their reputation.

    For example, look at the Auto Glym collection of products above, and then compare them to this random google image of Meguiar's stuff. The Meguiar's stuff looks terrible in comparison.


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    Chemical Guys, whilst you could say they look like a budget brand, also look highly professional and very technical when you group a few of them together;


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    They make it look a bit more complicated than it needs to be to someone who doesn't know what any of the stuff is (even though their packaging actually makes it easier to know what's what, and how much you have left of each product).


    What I'm getting at is, if I didn't know anything about detailing, and we'll say I hired a mobile Detailer to come around and sort out my car. If he pulled open the door on his van and it had shelf after shelf of AutoGlym stuff, this detailer would look very high-brow, in my opinion.

    All of the products look expensive. They have an elegant and crisp packaging that makes them stand out and look the business.

    If he had shelves of Chemical Guys stuff, he'd look a bit more technical, but very serious. With all the different coloured products with straight-forward labels, it'd look like the Detailer is sourcing his stuff direct from manufacturers and he's using stuff that works well.


    If he had shelves of Meguiar's, he'd look more like an amateur who'd been picking up his bits and pieces as he goes along one at a time and just randomly settling on whatever product might do the job required (which is odd, as Meguiar's have an amazing reputation).


    Therefore, if I were a detailer, I'd be driving a pristine van and I'd have AutoGlym products (whether I used them or not) neatly displayed in my van or in a bag or whatever, and they'd be the first (and only?) thing the customer sees.


    (of course, all this is very much in theory - In reality I'd say the amount of people that would even notice what products you're using would be negligible, and the amount that would care would be less so. So long as they get a 141-looking car for a pittance, they'll be happy campers! :rolleyes:).

    I do realise I'm over-analyzing this; But as I say, I just found the AutoGlym packaging to really be staggeringly above all of their competition in regards to creating a 'professional's choice' kind of image.



    + 303 Aerospace Protectant =



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    Looks the business. Great work!

    Have to admit, I'm terrified of the engine of my car. Can picture myself cleaning it one day, and then getting the car towed into my mechanic the next morning :o


    Also, not sure who detailed the van in the previous pages (James, possibly?) but they did a fantastic job. I'd say a van is a real pain in the ass to detail. Looked brand new. Fair play! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,864 ✭✭✭stimpson


    For sexy branding you can't beat Collinite:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,920 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    The Meguiars/AutoGlym comparison reminds me of a plain and simple America/England comparison if you know what I mean.

    America = loud, brash and in your face. Good and gets the job done.

    England = posh, reserved and doesn't have to shout about it and still gets the job done.

    However, I am a huge fan of Meguiars products and I've been using them since I got into valeting way back in 2006 and they have always served me well. The first time I used AutoGlym was Super Resin Polish and it left powdery residue in all the cracks on the car and it pissed me right off. The only AG stuff I use now is the glass polish. I used use the leather cleaner and balm until I discovered that the leather cleaner was no more than an APC. I now use Gliptone cleaner and conditioner and I can clearly see that the Gliptone cleaner is so much more than an APC!

    When it comes to Meguiars, not all their products are perfect. The hot wheels tyre shine slings like a mofo and their Gtechniq "rivalling" coatings have the durability of wet bog roll.


  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    stimpson wrote: »
    For sexy branding you can't beat Collinite:


    Not mad about that, to be honest. Colour scheme and general 'vintage' vibe doesn't really work for me at all. Looks like a shoe polish that an ould fella on the street would have 100 years ago tongue.png


    America = loud, brash and in your face. Good and gets the job done.

    England = posh, reserved and doesn't have to shout about it and still gets the job done.

    I could see that as being somewhat accurate alright. Are Auto Glym/Meguiar's actually English/American companies, out of curiousity?

    I've no real experience of either brands yet (still very new to detailing, so have only really used a handful of products so far) but I'm lead to believe Meguiar's are the Real McCoy in the detailing world.



    Can I ask ye guys, from a detailing standpoint, is there anything that can be done for stone chips? My bonnet's gotten them pretty bad along the front, and I'm afraid to go mad with the DAS6 for fear of it catching on them and pulling paint off the car.

    I think the 'best' option is to get the bonnet re-sprayed? But also likely to be the most expensive option, too.

    Are there any miracle products out there that I can try?

    I was considering getting one of those car moustaches, but it wouldn't actually really help, and it'd more than likely end up just getting in the way when I'm trying to clean the bonnet in future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,920 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    AutoGlym are English and Meguiars are American.....hence my comparison :P


  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    AutoGlym are English and Meguiars are American.....hence my comparison :P

    Oh I understood the comparison, but just wasn't sure if you were making it up as you went along, or if the companies actually were American and English. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    Can I ask ye guys, from a detailing standpoint, is there anything that can be done for stone chips? My bonnet's gotten them pretty bad along the front, and I'm afraid to go mad with the DAS6 for fear of it catching on them and pulling paint off the car.

    I think the 'best' option is to get the bonnet re-sprayed? But also likely to be the most expensive option, too.

    Are there any miracle products out there that I can try?

    If you get the same colour paint, you can go around filling in the chips using a toothpick. You get the paint just over the level of the normal paint, then wet sand it, then polish with a DAS6 to remove the sanding marks.
    http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=20127
    http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=256901

    Or then there's this method I just came across
    http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=217520

    Or there's the alter-alternative :pac: Dr.Colorchips


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,864 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Not mad about that, to be honest. Colour scheme and general 'vintage' vibe doesn't really work for me at all. Looks like a shoe polish that an ould fella on the street would have 100 years ago tongue.png

    I was being sarcastic! In fairness, they've only been making wax since 1936. :)

    I use it because it's cheap and damn good at what it does. I put 2 coats on in October and it's still beading (despite needing a wash). Surely the performance of a product is more important than what the container looks like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,920 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    KKV - that Collinite is one of the best waxes available on the market. Do not let the retro packaging fool you ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,719 ✭✭✭Hal1


    I still have perfect beading after using the collinite last August.


  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you get the same colour paint, you can go around filling in the chips using a toothpick. You get the paint just over the level of the normal paint, then wet sand it, then polish with a DAS6 to remove the sanding marks.
    http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=20127
    http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=256901

    Or then there's this method I just came across
    http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=217520

    Or there's the alter-alternative :pac: Dr.Colorchips


    Hmm.. from looking at the guides there, it'd appear my chips may be a tad more severe than most peoples... :o

    I've also got rust visible on them. From reading DW threads you linked to, that has to be treated before I do anything else.


    Anyone any experience of this?

    http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_187229_langId_-1_categoryId_212430


    Seems like the thing I'm looking for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭TheBigGreen


    Decided to clean the spare wheels, alot of dirt and tar inside of them.

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    Powerhosed the wheels, washed them, powerhosed again, dried the wheels, used Orchard Autocare Tar Cleanse, powerhosed and another wash. Didn't do any rubbing, Orchard Autocare Tar Cleanse is great stuff! Will give them another at the weekend or next week.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭JAMES VTI S


    F*** that wheel is nasty, i mean OUCH!


  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Over the last couple of weeks I've been picking bits up here and there and using a variety of ways to do so.

    I'd primarily like to buy from DetailingShed as Curran pretty much handheld me through the start of my detailing adventures and gave me some good advice and product recommendations, but I was reading on other forums for different products people were recommending and such that weren't on DetailingShed which lead me to other sites (and of course, the all too convenient doors of Halfords aren't doing my already-fragile wallet any good, either).

    So I've accumulated a few bits and pieces and I have absolutely no idea what I have now. I bought some plastic storage shelving thingies in homebase for storing things in (These ones, except homebase ones are black and €22).

    So I'll have to make a list of what I have, and what product can be used for what
    .

    Anyway, I've used 3 sites for detailing (Detailingshed.com, CleanYourCar.co.uk and CleanCar.ie). Clean Car are Irish so I'll assume someone here is involved (though maybe not?), but they did something that I thought was very clever and high end of them.

    All of the sites I've purchased off have sent a written note with the package. Which is an extremely nice touch and really classy of them (also makes you feel like detailing is made up of a very friendly set of like-minded people, and that you're actually a part of a nice group). But CleanCar went one further aswell (I hope you're taking notes, Curran :P ) and included a sweet in the package.

    Just a sweet. A hard sweet that you'd suck (not an innuendo). Such a small detail, but as cheesy as it may sound, it actually made me smile at the thoughtfulness (and not just because I'm a fat bastard that devours sweets in an instant).


    I know it's a tiny thing, but between all the sites I've ordered from, and the general friendliness of everyone on here, it really shows how selfless and supportive people on here can be.

    Detailers are my new favorite people! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Curran sent lollipops out with the DA group buy.

    Sidewayslarry is behind cleancar. Have yet to buy of them, need to wait until funds allow me to buy some gtechniq.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,846 ✭✭✭discombobulate


    Detailers are my new favorite people! :D
    And with the amount your buying up you're probably one of theirs too! :p


  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Scortho wrote: »
    Curran sent lollipops out with the DA group buy

    Really? Haha. Very sound chaps, so they are! :D

    And with the amount your buying up you're probably one of theirs too! :P

    Ah, I'm sure there are many people buying much more than I am. :P


    My problem is I'm buying lots of random pieces. For example, i bought a few bits off CleanYourCar because I had to pay £10 postage, and I was using a discount code, so I figured I may aswell get a couple of bits while I'm there to justify the postage (and ended up forgetting some stuff and having to make a second order anyway! :mad: :o ).


    So there's possibly (but not entirely sure) a lot of overlap in what I own. I've probably got several polishes, waxes etc. and just don't really realise it.

    I bought the storage units in Homebase so I could try to better sort out my stuff and be a bit organised, but I've yet to actually go through my stuff.

    Although in saying that, I've actually probably bought very little in the grand scheme. I'm sure there are many people on here with a collection of various bits and pieces that they've purchased for different uses?


  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Speaking of buying things, can anyone recommend a decent product (preferably on DetailingShed as I'll be meeting Curran sometime to collect the groupbuy off him) that will do a number on fabric seats. Just a general cleaner to try and get them back to looking relatively clean again?

    This caught my eye (Chemical Guys Fabric Clean);

    http://www.detailingshed.com/interior/88-chemical-guys-fabric-clean-.html


    But unsure if it'll be any good or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭TheBigGreen


    F*** that wheel is nasty, i mean OUCH!

    It's bad alright, it was there when I bought the car. Must get a quote to fixed it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    It's bad alright, it was there when I bought the car. Must get a quote to fixed it.

    Haven't ever really heard of touch ups being done on wheels. You'd be better finding a single replacement in good condition tbh. You can't ever really just get one wheel painted, it won't match the set in terms of colour.

    You could have a go at it yourself?

    http://www.bmwtips.com/tipsntricks/wheel-repair/wheel-scuff-repair.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 752 ✭✭✭TheBigGreen


    Don't think I would be keen on doing it myself especially when it's a bad scratch and I don't really have the time these days. Emailed for quotes to a few places around Cork this morning. I might just sell them on as they are if it's gonna cost too much.


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