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Graphic Novels/Comics

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    For me Frank Miller got me intrested in graphic novels after reading 2000AD and judge dredd for years I can across frank millers The Dark Night returns and Batman year one converted me to a reader ,
    300 was great to well before it was moviefied


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,453 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    I really loved "Scott Pilgrim..."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Pilgrim

    Also, "Watchmen"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭Duck's hoop


    Used get Sandman whenever I could, way back in the day.

    Preacher good. Watchmen is simply outstanding. Read and re-read half a dozen times. Always gives you something a bit different.

    Slaine back in the early '90s was superb. Mushroom compatibility 10.

    Maus fantastic. And er, educational.

    Hard Boiled and Sin City also pretty amazing. Some great French stuff I can't remember, but they really go in for that.

    Anyone remember 'Crisis' back late 80s to maybe 90-91? Very intelligent, political and 'punky'. Great teenage stuff back then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭Barna77


    I used to read lots of Japanese comics when I was a teenager, cheesy and not so cheesy. And Asterix too. Never got into Tintin though.
    The brother has a huge collection on American superhero comics (Spiderman specially)

    I read Watchmen just before the movie was out. Loved it.

    Want to get my hands on Soctt Pilgrim and The Walking Dead. Love the series but they are expensive :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Nothing wrong with graphic novels, but anyone who refers to them as "books" should be fired into the sun.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Links234 wrote: »
    I'll probably be accussed of blasphemy here, but Lucifer surpasses Sandman in my books :D

    I totally agree. Sandman isn't coherent throughout, Lucifer is far more of collected idea. Both have value and will appeal to different people but it meant Lucifer was far more satisfying for me.


    Big ups to anyone mentioning Asterix. Probably my earliest introduction to comics. The level of writing was outstanding and supposedly each language has it's own particular level of great writing. I've seen some language experts hold the Asterix translations as a high point of translating work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    Nothing wrong with graphic novels, but anyone who refers to them as "books" should be fired into the sun.

    -_-


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    I totally agree. Sandman isn't coherent throughout, Lucifer is far more of collected idea. Both have value and will appeal to different people but it meant Lucifer was far more satisfying for me.


    Big ups to anyone mentioning Asterix. Probably my earliest introduction to comics. The level of writing was outstanding and supposedly each language has it's own particular level of great writing. I've seen some language experts hold the Asterix translations as a high point of translating work.

    I completely forgot Asterix, I loved them when I was younger and probably didn't get half of it, should read them again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    I completely forgot Asterix, I loved them when I was younger and probably didn't get half of it, should read them again.

    I think they're as good as the best kids films. They have something for everyone: historical jokes, wordplay, jokes on the places they're set, jokes about drugs ("Getafix.") If they weren't so French I'd imagine Hollywood would have picked up on them yonks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Thwip! wrote: »
    -_-

    t(-.-t)


    I mean, I think that's the response I mean to give. I amn't sure what your post means.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Darius.Tr


    The Swamp Thing, the only comic book I've read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    The losers
    Incorruptible
    Punisher war zone
    Y the last man
    Preacher
    The first 95 ish issues of the walking dead
    Midnight nation
    100 bullets
    Ex machina
    Runaways

    All incredible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 47 EdwardCastle


    Nothing wrong with graphic novels, but anyone who refers to them as "books" should be fired into the sun.

    What are they so O Knowledable One?

    Please enlighten us with your wisdom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Superman Red Son is a great read, good twist on the story. 1602 series by Neil Gaiman is fantastic. House of M was really good too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 dicititici


    Blacksad. Well developed characters(anthromorph animals)plot and great artwork. have the first two read online, they were only in french though.

    An Sclabhai, about the life of st Patrick simple storyline but nice artwork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    dicititici wrote: »
    Blacksad. Well developed characters(anthromorph animals)plot and great artwork. have the first two read online, they were only in french though.

    An Sclabhai, about the life of st Patrick simple storyline but nice artwork.

    I totally agree on Blacksad - I'm not normally too much into the anthropomorphised animals, but I'm willing to make exceptions in this case (well, this and Usagi Yojimbo).
    Great "private eye" style stories, and that fact that it's animals rather than humans gives it an extra edge.

    I recently got a few copies of "Fables" as well and rather like them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Nothing wrong with graphic novels, but anyone who refers to them as "books" should be fired into the sun.

    I'm curious... how would you refer to the phone book?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    t(-.-t)


    I mean, I think that's the response I mean to give. I amn't sure what your post means.

    Your complete dismissing of a graphic novel as a book. Incredibly ill-informed opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    What are they so O Knowledable One?

    Please enlighten us with your wisdom.


    Graphic novels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    The Walking Dead novels are worth reading. I've read about 7 or 8 of them and enjoy them a lot more than the tv show.
    Alan Moore may be a creative genius, but he also has his head up his own ass if he wouldn't even watch the Watchmen film to be proved wrong about it. I guess that he got burned with From Hell, but still.

    BPRD already downloaded onto tablet. Bone noted!

    Fully agree with the poster about The Walking Dead. The series is quite good, but the comic is something else.
    Barna77 wrote: »
    I used to read lots of Japanese comics when I was a teenager, cheesy and not so cheesy. And Asterix too. Never got into Tintin though.
    The brother has a huge collection on American superhero comics (Spiderman specially)

    I read Watchmen just before the movie was out. Loved it.

    Want to get my hands on Soctt Pilgrim and The Walking Dead. Love the series but they are expensive :(

    I dont get the circle jerk around TWD comix. The first few editions in particular I found very weak in terms of writing. The first season of the tv series is much better than the first few comics (I know the first season basically comprises only the 1st comic but still.)

    The tv series goes downhill in terms of quality once Frank Darabont was fired. The comics do get better, but then they too get fairly medicore.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    ok, I see now that perhaps a light hearted post may have been confused with something more weighty. I have a number of graphic novels that I hold in high regard. Its was a a joke about being a snob, which I am.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 47 EdwardCastle


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I'm curious... how would you refer to the phone book?

    Phone book, that's a great read, I get through a few pages every night before nighty nighty snooze snooze.

    http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/5112.Chris_Ware


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭BlurstMonkey


    Transmetropolitan. Fantastic series, and completed. Written by Warren Ellis. Well worth anyone's time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 dicititici


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I totally agree on Blacksad - I'm not normally too much into the anthropomorphised animals, but I'm willing to make exceptions in this case (well, this and Usagi Yojimbo).
    Great "private eye" style stories, and that fact that it's animals rather than humans gives it an extra edge.

    I recently got a few copies of "Fables" as well and rather like them.

    It's funny alright seeing groups of animals discriminating against other "races" in the artic nation story which isn't the same if they were human, and how each species are suited to their roles and personalities. I had to break out of my lurker mold to give my 2 cents :D

    Must check out fables sometime too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,986 ✭✭✭jacksie66


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭BlurstMonkey


    jacksie66 wrote: »
    I'm surprised nobody's mentioned The Killing Joke yet.
    Fecking amazing.

    Y'know I didn't think so, and I'm a big fan of Moore. I think he made a big mistake in trying to give Joker an origin story, it's completely contra to his central mythos. Not that Moore cared about that probably but the whole thing was just wrong in my view.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Y'know I didn't think so, and I'm a big fan of Moore. I think he made a big mistake in trying to give Joker an origin story, it's completely contra to his central mythos. Not that Moore cared about that probably but the whole thing was just wrong in my view.

    But...
    He didn't give the Joker an origin story. The Joker himself tells us in The Killing Joke "If I'm gonna have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice" so it's heavily suggested that the Joker just made up a story. It's a sort of an unreliable narrator trope, and pretty much where they got the whole schtick in the Dark Knight where he says "You wanna know how I got these scars?" and has a different story each time he tells it. Rather than it being against the mythos, I think this is a very, very Joker thing to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 174 ✭✭BlurstMonkey


    Links234 wrote: »
    But...
    He didn't give the Joker an origin story. The Joker himself tells us in The Killing Joke "If I'm gonna have a past, I'd prefer it to be multiple choice" so it's heavily suggested that the Joker just made up a story. It's a sort of an unreliable narrator trope, and pretty much where the whole schtick in the Dark Knight where he says "You wanna know how I got these scars?" and has a different story each time he tells it. Rather than it being against the mythos, I think this is a very, very Joker thing to do.

    Ah! It's years since I read it, that much clearly slipped my mind. Ya, that's a much better fit for the character.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    karma_ wrote: »
    Preacher is just amazing, and created by an Irishman too. I think I read Seth Rogan is making a pilot for this too, been rumoured to be made into an epic TV series for ages now.

    My recommendation is 'The Invisibles'.

    Preacher is daft, just a bunch of hard case stereotypes

    Most of ennis' stuff is gash


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Shenshen wrote: »
    I've been really into comic books all my life,

    I'm also a huge fan of French and Belgium comics, everything from Gaston Lagaffe to Asterix to Les Tuniques Bleus to Lanfeust and Troll de Troy.
    There are some fantastic fantasy-type comics coming from that tradition these days, well worth checking out. I'd particularly recommend Troll de Troy and, if you can find it, Orull.


    the french vampire world things that pat mills did are good fun, great artwork


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