Do you blindly believe that food labelled a "healthy" is really better for you?

Gongoozler · 10-01-2014 02:12PM

SV wrote: »

Yorkie has 300 calories? :eek:
I think I just realised how I gained so much weight before.

Out of curiosity, if you had to guess how many would you said had?

Michael D Not Higgins · 10-01-2014 02:12PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwud6Qh4e_c

10-01-2014 02:12PM

SV wrote: »

Yorkie has 300 calories? :eek:
I think I just realised how I gained so much weight before.

Most of the average bars are about 200-300
except the teeny purple snack ones I suppose

Arrow. · 10-01-2014 02:12PM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

I don't much care for cereal (especially the 'healthy' sawdust type that people tend to eat) but I do like Coco Pops. So much so that if I buy a box of coco pops, whatever size, I will not stop until it's empty.

I have a problem

They're more addictive than heroin.

I steer well clear bar a couple of times a year!

looking_around · 10-01-2014 02:13PM

SV wrote: »

Yorkie has 300 calories? :eek:
I think I just realised how I gained so much weight before.

Most chocolate bars have b/n 200 and 350 calories.
Yorkies being so thick, would be on the higher end. Snickers & mars also high because of their filling.

But they're just so niiiiice

dee_mc · 10-01-2014 02:15PM

Plain Yorkie bar = 367 calories. Yikes!

looking_around · 10-01-2014 02:15PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

Nothing makes a Saturday morning like a bowl of Coco Pops and morning TV, for the weekday it's dreary porridge :pac:

~You're doing it wrong~ :P
throw in some dried fruit = yum.
A little jam, or a lil nutella = yum.

Make it in a pot, milk, when cooked, beat an egg yolk in, sprinkle some cinnamon on top = yum

:P

The Backwards Man · 10-01-2014 02:16PM

I eat steak, brown bread, spuds, cabbage, beans, peas, broccoli, mackerel, haddock, onions, sausages, lettuce, tomatoes, coleslaw, apples, bananas, grapes, oranges, fullfat yoghurts, jelly and ice cream, and rich tea biscuits, and coffee and semi-skimmed milk.

I don't give a flying fluck if it's healthy or not, I just eat what I want and let nature sort me out.

dee_mc · 10-01-2014 02:18PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I eat steak, brown bread, spuds, cabbage, beans, peas, broccoli, mackerel, haddock, onions, sausages, lettuce, tomatoes, coleslaw, apples, bananas, grapes, oranges, fullfat yoghurts, jelly and ice cream, and rich tea biscuits, and coffee and semi-skimmed milk.

I don't give a flying fluck if it's healthy or not, I just eat what I want and let nature sort me out.

Low fat yogurts are the devil's work - either full of sugar or full of horrendous artificial sweeteners. Full fat natural yogurt all the way for me.

Daqster · 10-01-2014 02:22PM

bluewolf wrote: »

Well, if you try getting most of your calories from sugar, you'll probably be tired, grouchy, and starving. Same calories from steak and veg, you'll be more content.
Plus muscle

Depends on the person and the source of the "sugar".

Thanks to people like Lustig, people are now avoiding Fruit thinking that eating a few bananas is as bad for them as drinking a HFCS soft drink.

ScumLord · 10-01-2014 02:23PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I eat steak, brown bread, spuds, cabbage, beans, peas, broccoli, mackerel, haddock, onions, sausages, lettuce, tomatoes, coleslaw, apples, bananas, grapes, oranges, fullfat yoghurts, jelly and ice cream, and rich tea biscuits, and coffee and semi-skimmed milk.

That sounds like a lovely recipe, what do you call it?

noodler · 10-01-2014 02:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you checked?

You'd be in for a surprise.

Would I?

I would still maintain Special K has less sugar than the average cereal.

It has 4g per serving it seems.

The other data I can find at the moment only shows me the lowest (1g) and highest (20g) ends of the spectrum.

SV · 10-01-2014 02:26PM

Gongoozler wrote: »

Out of curiosity, if you had to guess how many would you said had?

I probably would have said in or around the 200 mark..actually I don't know. That's guessing now. It makes sense considering how thick it is.

Back in the day I'd probably guess 150 :pac: Delusional altogether.

bluewolf wrote: »

Most of the average bars are about 200-300
except the teeny purple snack ones I suppose

Yeah realising that now, good job I don't eat them anymore! Makes ya realise how easily people could put on the weight though. Know a few who eat 3 or 4 of those a day and think nothing of it!

looking_around wrote: »

Most chocolate bars have b/n 200 and 350 calories.
Yorkies being so thick, would be on the higher end. Snickers & mars also high because of their filling.

But they're just so niiiiice

They sort of make me queezy now, even thinking about them..although that might be because I just finished eating my dinner

humbert · 10-01-2014 02:27PM

dee_mc wrote: »

Low fat yogurts are the devil's work - either full of sugar or full of horrendous artificial sweeteners. Full fat natural yogurt all the way for me.

Flavoured natural yoghurt was the one thing that surprised me. Expected it to compare to milk but was more like Fanta!

Duggy747 · 10-01-2014 02:28PM

looking_around wrote: »

~You're doing it wrong~ :P
throw in some dried fruit = yum.
A little jam, or a lil nutella = yum.

Make it in a pot, milk, when cooked, beat an egg yolk in, sprinkle some cinnamon on top = yum

I'd find that rank, I'm not a fan of egg or cinnamon at all.............Nutella sounds like an idea, though....:pac:

Small sprinkle of sugar is all I have with it and I'm set

Tiddlypeeps · 10-01-2014 02:28PM

I think this is appropriate for this thread

Man eats only McDonalds for 90 days and loses weight, and also lowers cholesterol.

http://myfox8.com/2014/01/04/man-loses-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds/

“This isn’t something where you say ‘well he went to McDonalds and he only had the salads.’ No, I had the Big Macs, the quarter pounders with cheese. I had sundaes, I had ice cream cones,” Cisna said.
During the experiment, Cisna said he also started walking 45 minutes a day.
By the 90th day, Cisna said he lost 37 pounds and his cholesterol dropped from 249 to 170.

Processed foods are not the devil, people just need to be more aware of what is actually in them so they don't over do any one macro nutrient, especially sugars.

castletownman · 10-01-2014 02:29PM

Being involved in the GAA and knowing a few players involved at inter-county level, the amount of hypocrisy associated with healthy eating really gets my goat.

They have these dieticians and food nutritionists in telling them what they can and cannot eat (are usually told to stick to low-fat food types) and they generally stick to the rules. Yet at the same time they would be pumping all these supplements and protein shakes into them before training or match, after a gym session etc. God only knows the "un-natural" ingredients contained in that.

Of course, what's "good" and what's "bad" for them in terms of food seems to vary year and year where it's almost come to the stage where's it's like the fashion industry and it's seasonal styles.

And another thing. The "experts" tend to work off a large sample size when determining what the healthy option is for athletes. But they don't take into account different metabolisms etc. Some lads obviously have far larger appetites than others, but everyone has to stick to the same plan.

What I'm basically saying is there's too much bullsh*te associated with food nutrition these days that I regard it as a joke of a profession.

10-01-2014 02:30PM

But he had strict daily nutritional limitations of 2,000 calories and tried to stay close to the recommended dietary allowances for nutrients like carbohydrates, proteins, fat calories and cholesterol.
A typical breakfast would be two egg white delights, a bowl of their maple oatmeal and a 1 percent milk,” Cisna said.

He said a salad for lunch would be followed by a more traditional value meal at dinner.

Well... it's not like he really was eating burgers all day

I wonder what an egg white delight is

looking_around · 10-01-2014 02:32PM

Duggy747 wrote: »

I'd find that rank, I'm not a fan of egg or cinnamon at all.............Nutella sounds like an idea, though....:pac:

Small sprinkle of sugar is all I have with it and I'm set

Do try a spoon of nutella.

On the egg in porridge, ...spose if you don't like eggs it's not for you, however if it's completely mixed in, you don't really taste it, bit like throwing an egg into a cake mix.
Most people who've tried porridge with the egg love it.
Though I do understand cinnamon being a bit of an acquired taste.

the jam is great too, turns plain porridge, into strawberry flavour, or orange, or blackcurrent etc. Nice to different it up an all.

martomcg · 10-01-2014 02:32PM

noodler wrote: »

Would I?

I would still maintain Special K has less sugar than the average cereal.

It has 4g per serving it seems.

The other data I can find at the moment only shows me the lowest (1g) and highest (20g) ends of the spectrum.

What size is this serving? How often have you weighed your breakfast to make sure you dont eat more than this?

I did and found my standard bowl of cereal was 2.5 times the serving size suggested on the box.(This was the typical amount I'd been eating for years without realising)

There should be made to measure bowls in boxes of cereal as nobody has a clue about portion sizes.

dee_mc · 10-01-2014 02:33PM

Tiddlypeeps wrote: »

I think this is appropriate for this thread

Man eats only McDonalds for 90 days and loses weight, and also lowers cholesterol.

http://myfox8.com/2014/01/04/man-loses-weight-eating-only-mcdonalds/

Processed foods are not the devil, people just need to be more aware of what is actually in them so they don't over do any one macro nutrient, especially sugars.

If your diet is shockingly bad to start with then I suppose it follows that you could improve it even while eating only junk food, but that doesn't make junk food any better for the average person! I think someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, a limited amount of junk food in an otherwise healthy diet is fine, but people who think they can be healthy longterm on a diet of junk food are only fooling themselves in fairness.

Edit: Tiddlypeeps, not attacking your post whatsoever!

noodler · 10-01-2014 02:39PM

martomcg wrote: »

What size is this serving? How often have you weighed your breakfast to make sure you dont eat more than this?

I did and found my standard bowl of cereal was 2.5 times the serving size suggested on the box.(This was the typical amount I'd been eating for years without realising)

There should be made to measure bowls in boxes of cereal as nobody has a clue about portion sizes.

Not really the issue, I am talking about Special K in relation to other cereals, i.e. on a like-for-like basis in terms of serving size.

poundapunnet · 10-01-2014 02:39PM

The less processed your food is the better. Fat is not the devil, nor is anything in moderation. The more vegetables and the wider the variety the better. Lean protein is good.

It's really not rocket science like

I'd imagine sugar consumption is a bigger contributor to the obesity and diabetes crises, especially as it's sneakily put in things you wouldn't expect (pasta sauces, yogurt, BURGERS). Some studies have found it more addictive than cocaine.

And that food pyramid had a farming lobby behind it, six servings a day of grain is far more than most people need.

Daqster · 10-01-2014 02:40PM

dee_mc wrote: »

If your diet is shockingly bad to start with then I suppose it follows that you could improve it even while eating only junk food, but that doesn't make junk food any better for the average person! I think someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, a limited amount of junk food in an otherwise healthy diet is fine, but people who think they can be healthy longterm on a diet of junk food are only fooling themselves in fairness.

The guy eat their Oatmeal and Salads also, wasn't just Big Macs and fries he was living on plus he walked for 45 mins each day, something which he admits to not doing before hand.

SV · 10-01-2014 02:40PM

bluewolf wrote: »

But he had strict daily nutritional limitations of 2,000 calories and tried to stay close to the recommended dietary allowances for nutrients like carbohydrates, proteins, fat calories and cholesterol.
A typical breakfast would be two egg white delights, a bowl of their maple oatmeal and a 1 percent milk,” Cisna said.

He said a salad for lunch would be followed by a more traditional value meal at dinner.

Well... it's not like he really was eating burgers all day

I wonder what an egg white delight is

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/product_nutrition.breakfast.1079.egg-white-delight.html
This baby! Delicious

10-01-2014 02:41PM

Two of those and maple oatmeal for breakfast? Jaysus

homemadecider · 10-01-2014 02:43PM

SV wrote: »

http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/product_nutrition.breakfast.1079.egg-white-delight.html
This baby! Delicious

Oh god that looks horrendous!

SV · 10-01-2014 02:45PM

homemadecider wrote: »

Oh god that looks horrendous!

It tastes fantastic though, I just make my own. Minus the cheese and bacon.
So pretty much just egg white and muffin :pac:

thecatspjs · 10-01-2014 02:48PM

Didn't even read the article or any replies but I'm just throwing this out there anyway. Anything marketed as ''low-fat'' or ''healthy'' probably isn't that good for you. Honestly, people know what they should and shouldn't be eating. It's not rocket science.

10-01-2014 02:49PM

thecatspjs wrote: »

Didn't even read the article or any replies but I'm just throwing this out there anyway. Anything marketed as ''low-fat'' or ''healthy'' probably isn't that good for you. Honestly, people know what they should and shouldn't be eating. It's not rocket science.

I didn't read this post or anything but I wanted to say I love ice cream too

But despite my earlier post, I think there are people who really don't know what they shouldn't be eating. I forget sometimes how much you learn from places like boards with all its info for example that you might not pick up elsewhere

Do you blindly believe that food labelled a "healthy" is really better for you?

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