Garda Recruitment- The Waiting to Apply Room

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 08:39PM

thekopend wrote: »

For the sake of the whole forum I am not feeding you anymore

you choose to answer and poke holes in most of the posters here. You need to respect others opinions and those of us who do have some police experience and who are also doing their best to further their career by joining the regular. A number of posters on this forum are serving members and hoping to join as Garda trainees, perhaps you could remember this for future postings

Shady Tady · 06-01-2014 08:54PM

Raider190 wrote: »

you choose to answer and poke holes in most of the posters here. You need to respect others opinions and those of us who do have some police experience and who are also doing their best to further their career by joining the regular. A number of posters on this forum are serving members and hoping to join as Garda trainees, perhaps you could remember this for future postings

Does that mean that because I'm not in the reserve I'm less entitled to apply? I didn't know that reserves are getting in automatically, apologies raider 190, seems you might make it after all. What rank are you in the reserve?

carzony · 06-01-2014 08:58PM

robo008 wrote: »

I said I would not get sucked in but I have! There seems to be an awful lot of jealousy from non reserves here. People saying they take on anyone? Just remember lads wen it comes to interview, full timers I work with were asked why they didn't join the reserve before the moratorium! It will be heavily asked this time around. Also just think of this lads 13000 full timers 1300 reserves max. Yes some come and go however it is an accomplishment to get a reserve spot. Say there was 1300 reserves hired in its 7 years. Assuming they hire the same amount every year that estimating 185 hired each year. Which is less than they will hire this year full time. So don't think anybody gets in! Just remember we have on the job experience. Weve shown community involvement, commitment to a career, it's proof we aren't driven by financial gain, volunteering, a career in AGS Is not for everone, reserves will be less likely to drop out! I'm in the reserve 3 years I know I won't get it this time around. There are many fine over qualified reserves to compete against. Obviously not all reserves will make it! But I just can't believe how slated the reserve is here. Good luck lads...

I actually agree that gardai reserves have an advantage, well at the interview stage anyway. But as been said many times on this forum there are loads of other ways to show community involvement, commitment to a career and all the rest of it.

They might ask ''why didnt you join the reserves? Sure there are hundreds of reasons why a person couldnt join financially, busy earning a living, involved in other important organisations, family commitments, busy with college work ect ect...

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 08:59PM

thekopend wrote: »

Jesus, they really do take on anyone. Best of luck to you, please let us know how u get on, if you get on

When your commitment level increases and you decide to actually do something that may help you join the Gardai then your opinion would be of value but to sit on the sideline and denigrate those who put on a uniform and a stab vest and put themselves ion the line. Well that clearly says a lot

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 09:06PM

Shady Tady wrote: »

Does that mean that because I'm not in the reserve I'm less entitled to apply? I didn't know that reserves are getting in automatically, apologies raider 190, seems you might make it after all. What rank are you in the reserve?

Everyone is entitled to apply and Reserves won't automatically get a training slot but when it comes to an interview they will have an advantage, as regard rank within the reserve there is only one that of reserve Garda.

Scouser · 06-01-2014 09:06PM

carzony wrote: »

They might ask ''why didnt you join the reserves? Sure there are hundreds of reasons why a person couldnt join financially, busy earning a living, involved in other important organisations, family commitments, busy with college work ect ect...

but while your explaining and excusing why you didnt/wouldnt/couldnt others will be leaping in front of you

if your explaining your losing!

carzony · 06-01-2014 09:11PM

Scouser wrote: »

but while your explaining and excusing why you didnt/wouldnt/couldnt others will be leaping in front of you

if your explaining your losing!

If the reserves were such an asset they would have been given some kind of preference in this campaign. At the end of the day they've to compete with the rest of us. As I said the only advantage they have is at the interview stage but sure anyone involved in a voluntary organisation/community will have a good chance at the interview aswell..

We shall see when the 300 are picked and see how many are reserves.. If it's a low number I reckon the reserves won't be very happy. Hopefully they'll leave and make the government have 'proper' recruitment campaigns..

thestar · 06-01-2014 09:11PM

nobody can have a good enough excuse for not joining the reserve, its 4 hours a week which in fairness is very little. People on here arguing with each other and putting down the reserve could have put their time to better use

Scouser · 06-01-2014 09:12PM

thestar wrote: »

nobody can have a good enough excuse for not joining the reserve, its 4 hours a week which in fairness is very little. People on here arguing with each other and putting down the reserve could have put their time to better use

put that big spoon away!

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 09:13PM

carzony wrote: »

I actually agree that gardai reserves have an advantage, well at the interview stage anyway. But as been said many times on this forum there are loads of other ways to show community involvement, commitment to a career and all the rest of it.

They might ask ''why didnt you join the reserves? Sure there are hundreds of reasons why a person couldnt join financially, busy earning a living, involved in other important organisations, family commitments, busy with college work ect ect...

Imagine how impressed they would be given all the above and you still found the time to work with regular as a reseve..........they would be giving your application some serious consideration

thestar · 06-01-2014 09:13PM

carzony wrote: »

If the reserves were such an asset they would have been given some kind of preference in this campaign. At the end of the day they've to compete with the rest of us. As I said the only advantage they have is at the interview stage but sure anyone involved in a voluntary organisation/community will have a good chance at the interview aswell..

We shall see when the 300 are picked and see how many are reserves.. If it's a low number I reckon the reserves won't be very happy. Hopefully they'll leave and make the government have 'proper' recruitment campaigns..

Agree with you there that it doesn't show much faith in them that there was no preference was given to reserves. Interesting to see the question about being a reserve in the application form however

carzony · 06-01-2014 09:18PM

thestar wrote: »

nobody can have a good enough excuse for not joining the reserve, its 4 hours a week which in fairness is very little. People on here arguing with each other and putting down the reserve could have put their time to better use

I work, have college and work with the civil defence twice a week. I actually work alongside lots of gardai. Being honest The main reason I didnt go for the reserves is the time it takes to go through the checks ect....

thestar wrote: »

Agree with you there that it doesn't show much faith in them that there was no preference was given to reserves. Interesting to see the question about being a reserve in the application form however

I did consider that but as I said we shall see how many are actually recruited in the campaign.. I think if recruitment becomes a regular thing than the reserve force won't be as big because people will just wanna join full time again..

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 09:20PM

carzony wrote: »

If the reserves were such an asset they would have been given some kind of preference in this campaign. At the end of the day they've to compete with the rest of us. As I said the only advantage they have is at the interview stage but sure anyone involved in a voluntary organisation/community will have a good chance at the interview aswell..

We shall see when the 300 are picked and see how many are reserves.. If it's a low number I reckon the reserves won't be very happy. Hopefully they'll leave and make the government have 'proper' recruitment campaigns..

Why then on initial application are serving or former Reserves been asked to identify themselves and I dont believe that it is for statistical purposes

carzony · 06-01-2014 09:23PM

Raider190 wrote: »

Why then on initial application are serving or former Reserves been asked to identify themselves and I dont believe that it is for statistical purposes

I don't know the answer to that and neither do you. I could well be statistical... Anyone what does it mean? you still need to go through the process the same as any joe soap and if not the rest of the applicants will feel it's unfair..

I would love to know how many reserves actually want to go full time.. aHopefully this campaign can give us a rough answer..

thestar · 06-01-2014 09:24PM

Raider190 wrote: »

Why then on initial application are serving or former Reserves been asked to identify themselves and I dont believe that it is for statistical purposes

For whatever reason it is the aptitude tests are still gonna be marked the same way, regardless of being a reserve or not, its the one step in the process where one has to earn their right to the next stage

Scouser · 06-01-2014 09:25PM

carzony wrote: »

I don't know the answer to that and neither do you

HR will have that answer for you

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 09:32PM

I did consider that but as I said we shall see how many are actually recruited in the campaign.. I think if recruitment becomes a regular thing than the reserve force won't be as big because people will just wanna join full time again..[/QUOTE]

The total number of the force will be 13000 for a number of years to come and the Reserve will stand at 10 percent . The UK forces faced problems with keeping there numbers in the past. Their solution was to offer their special constables full time 3 yearly renewable contracts

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 09:38PM

carzony wrote: »

I don't know the answer to that and neither do you. I could well be statistical... Anyone what does it mean? you still need to go through the process the same as any joe soap and if not the rest of the applicants will feel it's unfair..

I would love to know how many reserves actually want to go full time.. aHopefully this campaign can give us a rough answer..

Hands up anyone who has a mate in HR

Hitchroun · 06-01-2014 09:39PM

Raider190 wrote: »

The UK forces faced problems with keeping there numbers in the past. Their solution was to offer their special constables full time 3 yearly renewable contracts

Could you go into more detail on that?

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 09:43PM

thestar wrote: »

For whatever reason it is the aptitude tests are still gonna be marked the same way, regardless of being a reserve or not, its the one step in the process where one has to earn their right to the next stage

Totally agree but when your file arrives at the interview panel table with a reserve member marker on it then the game changes

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 09:45PM

Hitchroun wrote: »

Could you go into more detail on that?

All on line I believe think it was 3 to 5 years ago

Hitchroun · 06-01-2014 09:47PM

Raider190 wrote: »

All on line I believe think it was 3 to 5 years ago

Yeah, I tried. Can't find anything.

carzony · 06-01-2014 09:47PM

Raider190 wrote: »

Totally agree but when your file arrives at the interview panel table with a reserve member marker on it then the game changes

If the aptitude goes well;);)

i'm certain there is better qualified people out there than a lot of the reserves.. As an earlier poster said they only dedicate 4 hours a week.. and from a report i read here a few months ago a lot of them aint even given that much time..

Hitchroun · 06-01-2014 10:02PM

carzony wrote: »

i'm certain there is better qualified people out there than a lot of the reserves.. As an earlier poster said they only dedicate 4 hours a week.. and from a report i read here a few months ago a lot of them aint even given that much time..

While that could be true in some cases, in others, the opposite could also be true. Currently I would argue that experience with GR would be one of the best moves to make if someone wished to increase their chances. I mean the only thing that I could see trumping GR experience would be actual full-time experience in other security/policing roles.

I'm sure a competent GR member could get some very nice references from full-time members also... there are not many other situations that provides that sort of social networking with full-time members.

That isn't to say you should end your 2 year stint with the civil defence or RDF, I would just make the point that I believe the Garda Reserve would be the best option amongst "part-time interests" so to peak.

carzony · 06-01-2014 10:11PM

Hitchroun wrote: »

While that could be true in some cases, in others, the opposite could also be true. Currently I would argue that experience with GR would be one of the best moves to make if someone wished to increase their chances. I mean the only thing that I could see trumping GR experience would be actual full-time experience in other security/policing roles.

I'm sure a competent GR member could get some very nice references from full-time members also... there are not many other situations that provides that sort of social networking with full-time members.

That isn't to say you should end your 2 year stint with the civil defence or RDF, I would just make the point that I believe the Garda Reserve would be the best option amongst "part-time interests" so to peak.

I'd actually disagree with that. In the civil defence your sent on many courses and there all certified like advanced first aid. Driving, rescue techniques.you also incharge of units which really proves leader ship skills. Plus all the concerts ect.. you attend along side gardai. Being honest I think that'll look just as good on the application form.

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 10:18PM

carzony wrote: »

If the aptitude goes well;);)

i'm certain there is better qualified people out there than a lot of the reserves.. As an earlier poster said they only dedicate 4 hours a week.. and from a report i read here a few months ago a lot of them aint even given that much time..[/Q

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Dont know of any official report that was posted on this or Amy other forum
There are 25 percent who contribute less than 8 hours per month the remainder are contributing in excess of this and some like myself doing 20 to 30 hours per week

Shady Tady · 06-01-2014 10:19PM

Raider190 wrote: »

Imagine how impressed they would be given all the above and you still found the time to work with regular as a reseve..........they would be giving your application some serious consideration

If you were a bar of chocolate you'd eat yourself!

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 10:26PM

Shady Tady wrote: »

If you were a bar of chocolate you'd eat yourself!

When you have been on this forum for more than a month and you have a valuable contribution please feel free to make it until then. We need sensible comments not stupid commemts

Shady Tady · 06-01-2014 10:45PM

In fairness I spend more than 4 hours a week on the toilet, I probaly also deal with more sh1t

PeteK* · 06-01-2014 10:50PM

When you apply, do you just wait to be contacted for the online aptitude and the other one at Chapter House?

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