Garda Recruitment- The Waiting to Apply Room

donegal11 · 04-01-2014 08:30PM

senordingdong wrote: »

Well take RA for example.
It'd be a huge chunk of a Gardas weekly wage, and taking it from new recruits while expecting them to walk the beat with Gardaí who do have it could be setting up a serious legal issue.

What legal issue ?

Galway1987 · 05-01-2014 05:00AM

Hey everyone,
Just a step away from the poor pay conversation for a moment. I'm not applying this time around because I'm travelling/living abroad and right now doesn't suit. I'm confused about a few things on the application process. To those who have submitted their applications:
1. Was it a basic application (name, address etc) or did you have to put the effort in as this is your moment to shine?
2. Do they initially start rejecting people from the application or after the online psychometric testing?

Also, anyone have a copy of the questions on the application form to share if possible?

Best of luck to those applying this time.

Go raibh maith agat!

D Trent · 05-01-2014 09:55PM

Galway1987 wrote: »

Hey everyone,
Just a step away from the poor pay conversation for a moment. I'm not applying this time around because I'm travelling/living abroad and right now doesn't suit. I'm confused about a few things on the application process. To those who have submitted their applications:
1. Was it a basic application (name, address etc) or did you have to put the effort in as this is your moment to shine?
2. Do they initially start rejecting people from the application or after the online psychometric testing?

Also, anyone have a copy of the questions on the application form to share if possible?

Best of luck to those applying this time.

Go raibh maith agat!

They only start to cull applicants after online aptitude tests. Application form was v straightforward. DOB address etc plus two q's. 'Have you ever been an attested Garda reserve?' And 'tick here if you speak irish fluently'

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 03:54PM

Irish Independent 12th Dec 2013 Statement from Garda Commissioner

There are currently 1,290 Garda reserves, including 1,107 fully attested and 183 in training.

"I think it's a natural assumption to make that the reserves will have a certain advantage," he said.

"After all they have received initial training here, they have been working with colleagues on the force.

"I think any interview board will take that in to account when dealing with these people."

Straight from the TOP MANS mouth been a Reserve will be deemed an advantage

Santa Cruz · 06-01-2014 04:47PM

Hitchroun wrote: »

How well are night duty/Sunday/public holidays shifts distributed? Is it completely random or is there an effort made to ensure everyone gets roughly the same amount of these special shifts?

Each Garda is allocated to a Unit. They will have equal amount of night duty, Saturdays and Sundays. The number of Public Holidays you get may differ depending on the way the roster is laid out.
Overtime is different as it depends on local requirements. Many Gardaí get no overtime

mfergus · 06-01-2014 05:22PM

Raider190 wrote: »

Irish Independent 12th Dec 2013 Statement from Garda Commissioner

There are currently 1,290 Garda reserves, including 1,107 fully attested and 183 in training.

"I think it's a natural assumption to make that the reserves will have a certain advantage," he said.

"After all they have received initial training here, they have been working with colleagues on the force.

"I think any interview board will take that in to account when dealing with these people."

Straight from the TOP MANS mouth been a Reserve will be deemed an advantage

I thought you gave up this sh!t.
At this stage it looks like you're just looking for someone to reassure you...

Reading over these entire forums It appears the topic has been discussed at length.

I think it's been accepted that it's obvious people will be able to use it in the interview to their advantage, along with rdf, civil defence, St johns and other voluntary organisations, assuming they get that far.

I think it's also been accepted that all that info you got from "your experience" isn't too reliable.

thekopend · 06-01-2014 05:59PM

Raider190 wrote: »

Irish Independent 12th Dec 2013 Statement from Garda Commissioner

There are currently 1,290 Garda reserves, including 1,107 fully attested and 183 in training.

"I think it's a natural assumption to make that the reserves will have a certain advantage," he said.

"After all they have received initial training here, they have been working with colleagues on the force.

"I think any interview board will take that in to account when dealing with these people."

Straight from the TOP MANS mouth been a Reserve will be deemed an advantage

this doesn't need to be discussed again. also wait until you and all the other reserves get an interview before you get on your high horses. it will be a handy percentage of ye. A dose of reality is on its way to the reserve parish:P until then ye can reassure each other in the reserve forum!

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 06:45PM

mfergus wrote: »

I thought you gave up this sh!t.
At this stage it looks like you're just looking for someone to reassure you...

Reading over these entire forums It appears the topic has been discussed at length.

I think it's been accepted that it's obvious people will be able to use it in the interview to their advantage, along with rdf, civil defence, St johns and other voluntary organisations, assuming they get that far.

I think it's also been accepted that all that info you got from "your experience" isn't too reliable.

It's sad that you react this way but understandable and who are you to dictate what is discussed. Are you seriously comparing rdf , civil defence etc with the reserve. As for my experience if you were really committed to joining you would have done something about it and sitting in your dark room banging on your laptop does not count

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 06:50PM

thekopend wrote: »

this doesn't need to be discussed again. also wait until you and all the other reserves get an interview before you get on your high horses. it will be a handy percentage of ye. A dose of reality is on its way to the reserve parish:P until then ye can reassure each other in the reserve forum!

The dim cry of a poster who knows that experience will count when it comes to an interview and for all your crabby comments and put downs there at least a thousand reserves applying who have the advantage because they got off their bums and did something to better their chances

Good luck to all who apply

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 06:55PM

mfergus wrote: »

I thought you gave up this sh!t.
At this stage it looks like you're just looking for someone to reassure you...

Reading over these entire forums It appears the topic has been discussed at length.

I think it's been accepted that it's obvious people will be able to use it in the interview to their advantage, along with rdf, civil defence, St johns and other voluntary organisations, assuming they get that far.

I think it's also been accepted that all that info you got from "your experience" isn't too reliable.

Why don't you stick to giving advice about fighting alsatian dogs and let us get on about discussing the important issues here

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 06:58PM

thekopend wrote: »

this doesn't need to be discussed again. also wait until you and all the other reserves get an interview before you get on your high horses. it will be a handy percentage of ye. A dose of reality is on its way to the reserve parish:P until then ye can reassure each other in the reserve forum!

Have you now become a mod if not I can post in whichever forum I choose and as for reality I think it's coming more your way than mine

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 07:00PM

Devil08 wrote: »

Please read and please sign. I will be emailing this to all TDs in the country today. About time someone stood up for themselves.

http://www.activism.com/en_IE/petition/better-conditions-for-new-garda-recruits/47596

This poster can't be serious it has to be a joke?????????

Hitchroun · 06-01-2014 07:04PM

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Each Garda is allocated to a Unit. They will have equal amount of night duty, Saturdays and Sundays. The number of Public Holidays you get may differ depending on the way the roster is laid out.
Overtime is different as it depends on local requirements. Many Gardaí get no overtime

Thanks for the information, thats good to hear. I can only imagine the salary varies quite a bit from member to member.

Oh and in regards to the reserves... I would imagine any good conduct and worthwhile experience would be advantageous while in the GR?

ps: Good jaysus Raider could yeah not just edit your first post?

mfergus · 06-01-2014 07:05PM

Raider190 wrote: »

Why don't you stick to giving advice about fighting alsatian dogs and let us get on about discussing the important issues here

Touche.

So tell us more about your experiences...
This time try give facts that are actually correct.

Also have another skim through my previous posts. There's even more stupid ones than the one about fighting dogs

Devil08 · 06-01-2014 07:05PM

Are you a reserve raider? If you are then now I know why reserves get a bad rap. They must let anyone into the reserve

mfergus · 06-01-2014 07:09PM

Devil08 wrote: »

Are you a reserve raider? If you are then now I know why reserves get a bad rap. They must let anyone into the reserve

I think he may have mentioned he was, somewhere

Shady Tady · 06-01-2014 07:11PM

I've just had a quick read of this thread and if there is one person that is not suitable to be a Garda it's you Mr Raider 190 by a country mile!

thekopend · 06-01-2014 07:57PM

Raider190 wrote: »

The dim cry of a poster who knows that experience will count when it comes to an interview and for all your crabby comments and put downs there at least a thousand reserves applying who have the advantage because they got off their bums and did something to better their chances

Good luck to all who apply

I never said experience wouldn't count did I. I said that you and your 1000 (or whatever it is) other comrades have to do an aptitude againsed possibly 20,000 other people and get in the top end to get a chance at an interview for 300 places. There will be a lot of smart people doing these tests, even smarter than you would you believe it. So go practise. Because if you don't get a good result, all your 'experience' means jack s***. So get over your ego.

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 08:04PM

Shady Tady wrote: »

I've just had a quick read of this thread and if there is one person that is not suitable to be a Garda it's you Mr Raider 190 by a country mile!

That's your opinion and your welcome to it but if it was a qualified one it would be of some value but as you have are not qualified in any way it means little

Scouser · 06-01-2014 08:07PM

Shady Tady wrote: »

I've just had a quick read of this thread and if there is one person that is not suitable to be a Garda it's you Mr Raider 190 by a country mile!

well hes out there doing the work lads

thekopend · 06-01-2014 08:08PM

Jesus, they really do take on anyone. Best of luck to you, please let us know how u get on, if you get on

thekopend · 06-01-2014 08:09PM

Scouser wrote: »

well hes out there doing the work lads

I'm sure he looks lovely in the uniform

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 08:11PM

thekopend wrote: »

I never said experience wouldn't count did I. I said that you and your 1000 (or whatever it is) other comrades have to do an aptitude againsed possibly 20,000 other people and get in the top end to get a chance at an interview for 300 places. There will be a lot of smart people doing these tests, even smarter than you would you believe it. So go practise. Because if you don't get a good result, all your 'experience' means jack s***. So get over your ego.

So if a candidate is smart holds a degree a masters degree and say 4. Years Garda reserve experience and spent the last two years designing hr related aptitude testing systems then the chances of success are good

thekopend · 06-01-2014 08:16PM

Raider190 wrote: »

So if a candidate is smart holds a degree a masters degree and say 4. Years Garda reserve experience and spent the last two years designing hr related aptitude testing systems then the chances of success are good

Maybe not, he could have an attitude that stinks and fail the interview, reserve or not.

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 08:17PM

Devil08 wrote: »

Are you a reserve raider? If you are then now I know why reserves get a bad rap. They must let anyone into the reserve

Careful now your insults have gotten you into trouble before. And no they are quite selective and the process is exactly the same apart from the physical

thekopend · 06-01-2014 08:21PM

Raider190 wrote: »

Careful now your insults have gotten you into trouble before. And no they are quite selective and the process is exactly the same apart from the physical

Don't forget the aptitude now, more wrong information.

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 08:22PM

thekopend wrote: »

Maybe not, he could have an attitude that stinks and fail the interview, reserve or not.

But the interview process is the same for the regular as for the reserve. Competency based except the reserve will have some actual police experience in order to demonstrate his or hers competency. So the logic is pretty clear

thekopend · 06-01-2014 08:25PM

For the sake of the whole forum I am not feeding you anymore

Raider190 · 06-01-2014 08:29PM

thekopend wrote: »

Don't forget the aptitude now, more wrong information.

The aptitude is so simple and. I say this in the context of working in this sector. It is standard and will pose no problem to those who are well balanced and of average intelligent. But you are correct the test is different for the reserve but designed to test the same attributes

robo008 · 06-01-2014 08:37PM

I said I would not get sucked in but I have! There seems to be an awful lot of jealousy from non reserves here. People saying they take on anyone? Just remember lads wen it comes to interview, full timers I work with were asked why they didn't join the reserve before the moratorium! It will be heavily asked this time around. Also just think of this lads 13000 full timers 1300 reserves max. Yes some come and go however it is an accomplishment to get a reserve spot. Say there was 1300 reserves hired in its 7 years. Assuming they hire the same amount every year that estimating 185 hired each year. Which is less than they will hire this year full time. So don't think anybody gets in! Just remember we have on the job experience. Weve shown community involvement, commitment to a career, it's proof we aren't driven by financial gain, volunteering, a career in AGS Is not for everone, reserves will be less likely to drop out! I'm in the reserve 3 years I know I won't get it this time around. There are many fine over qualified reserves to compete against. Obviously not all reserves will make it! But I just can't believe how slated the reserve is here. Good luck lads...

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