When is a man too fit?

Aidric · 25-12-2013 03:26PM

Being handsome usually suffices.

Daveysil15 · 25-12-2013 06:01PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Yep noticed that too. I wonder is there a link between the longterm stability of a culture and a liking for bigger blokes? A protective type vibe? A few of the nations in Eastern Europe went into some turmoil post the wall coming down. Gender roles as far as appearance goes seem to be more rigid in Eastern Europe too. More traditional society = liking bigger men?

Gender roles in general are more traditional in Eastern Europe, but I don't see the correlation with bigger men tbh. I reckon that's a bit of a fallacy. Even though a lot of the men might be big/fit, that doesn't necessarily mean that is what the women go for. I've been with a few Eastern European women and the one thing I noticed is that they expect their men to be more chivalrous.

daRobot · 25-12-2013 06:29PM

Duck's hoop wrote: »

Still, he could take a beating I'd say. And he'd only need to get lucky once. You'd have to be lucky all the time!

Ronnie Coleman would get destroyed by anyone half his weight who knew how to fight. The agility and speed just aren't there.

Personally, while size is impressive, in the majority of cases you see in real life, it comes from steroids and that's a very risky game to play with your health.

When I see guys in the gym who are juicing, yeah, of course I'd like to make the fast gains, but there's an inherent weakness in their character displayed by juicing, imo of course.

And I think (smart and educated) women sense that too. You might have what appears to be a big, strong bloke, but there's a good chance on some level, they're really damaged goods on a overcompensating mission.

Wibbs · 25-12-2013 06:54PM

Daveysil15 wrote: »

I've been with a few Eastern European women and the one thing I noticed is that they expect their men to be more chivalrous.

Obviously a generalisation when applied to such a huge area of the world with many different cultures and sub cultures, never mind individuals within that. Saying Eastern Europe is akin to saying Africa or Asia.
But yea I found similar. Can be a bit of a shock, well shock is too strong a word, but you get the sense they want you to take on the Old Stylee Man(tm) role more.

Daveysil15 · 25-12-2013 07:06PM

daRobot wrote: »

Ronnie Coleman would get destroyed by anyone half his weight who knew how to fight. The agility and speed just aren't there.

Personally, while size is impressive, in the majority of cases you see in real life, it comes from steroids and that's a very risky game to play with your health.

When I see guys in the gym who are juicing, yeah, of course I'd like to make the fast gains, but there's an inherent weakness in their character displayed by juicing, imo of course.

And I think (smart and educated) women sense that too. You might have what appears to be a big, strong bloke, but there's a good chance on some level, they're really damaged goods on a overcompensating mission.

That would be the case with some guys, but there is another condition called muscular dysmorphia or bigorexia, where a guy could be really big but when he looks in the mirror he sees a skinny man staring back at him.

There are cultural influences too, especially in America. If you've ever seen the documentary Bigger Faster Stronger, its quite interesting. I think its on Youtube. It's well worth a watch.

Itwasntme. · 25-12-2013 08:33PM

bootybouncer wrote: »

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_louxolldKh1qmbiswo1_1280.jpg

:eek::eek: I take back everything I said about liking Thin-ish guys. He has the best body I have ever seen.

GalwayGuy2 · 25-12-2013 08:47PM

He's toned, but not really bulked.

God, fit is such a vague word for this.

Also, he kind of looks like the Nudist Beach guy.

stpaddy99 · 25-12-2013 09:03PM

women generally seem to go for bums lips shoulders and hands.....they like a bit of chest and biceps but bodybuilders are a put off as it seems narcisistic

Itwasntme. · 25-12-2013 09:03PM

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

He's toned, but not really bulked.

God, fit is such a vague word for this.

Also, he kind of looks like the Nudist Beach guy.

What he is, is perfect

. Physically anyway. Who's Nudist Beach guy? Google has decided to keep his identity a secret from me :mad:. Is it just the look?

Aidric · 25-12-2013 09:05PM

stpaddy99 wrote: »

women generally seem to go for bums lips shoulders and hands.....they like a bit of chest and biceps but bodybuilders are a put off as it seems narcisistic

Nice pair of shoes, clean fingernails, be grand.

daRobot · 25-12-2013 09:05PM

Itwasntme. wrote: »

:eek::eek: I take back everything I said about liking Thin-ish guys. He has the best body I have ever seen.

And that's totally obtainable without injecting dbol too, thankfully.

bootybouncer · 25-12-2013 09:08PM

Itwasntme. wrote: »

:eek::eek: I take back everything I said about liking Thin-ish guys. He has the best body I have ever seen.

marcus schenkenberg ...........................retired swedish male model, there were guys rocking this look 10, 15 years ago.............................................. now its all trx ufc roid raging lunatics

http://wetmen.provocateuse.com/images/photos/marcus_schenkenberg_03.jpg

Itwasntme. · 25-12-2013 09:11PM

bootybouncer wrote: »

marcus schenkenberg ...........................retired swedish male model, there were guys rocking this look 10, 15 years ago.............................................. now its all trx ufc roid raging lunatics

http://wetmen.provocateuse.com/images/photos/marcus_schenkenberg_03.jpg

I just googled him and ruined the fantasy

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mufcboy1999 · 25-12-2013 09:12PM

daRobot wrote: »

Ronnie Coleman would get destroyed by anyone half his weight who knew how to fight. The agility and speed just aren't there.

Personally, while size is impressive, in the majority of cases you see in real life, it comes from steroids and that's a very risky game to play with your health.

When I see guys in the gym who are juicing, yeah, of course I'd like to make the fast gains, but there's an inherent weakness in their character displayed by juicing, imo of course.

And I think (smart and educated) women sense that too. You might have what appears to be a big, strong bloke, but there's a good chance on some level, they're really damaged goods on a overcompensating mission.

Agreed , but as quick as these juicers gain muscle they end up losing it just as fast when they have to come off the gear so ladies the lesson here is to always go for a natural man with real muscle we're buff all year round and we got the balls to back it up

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bootybouncer · 25-12-2013 09:13PM

Itwasntme. wrote: »

I just googled him and ruined the fantasy .

How so ???

GalwayGuy2 · 25-12-2013 09:16PM

http://wetmen.provocateuse.com/image...kenberg_03.jpg

Jesus, I'm straight, and I'd be tempted.

What he is, is perfect . Physically anyway. Who's Nudist Beach guy? Google has decided to keep his identity a secret from me . Is it just the look?

Welcome to the weird world of anime. :P

Pug160 · 25-12-2013 09:19PM

Some of the physiques you see in magazines or pictures on the internet would be very hard to acquire, even with a lot of hard work and dedication. Those Apollo's belts and really defined abs you see some of those men with are down to genetics as well as diet and hard work. Not to mention the fact they are probably waxed, oiled and false tanned to within an inch of their lives. This might might sound silly, but the part I'd dread the most would be the regular waxing, rather than the diet and hard work. It would either be that or several laser treatments.

Itwasntme. · 25-12-2013 09:32PM

bootybouncer wrote: »

How so ???

The first hit I got of him was one where he was with Pam Anderson. That effectively killed it for me. I don't want him any more

. Not even in a fantasy.

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Jesus, I'm straight, and I'd be tempted.

Welcome to the weird world of anime. :P

Haha. You're right! He does look like 'Noo-dissed beeeach' guy

. This is not my first foray into the world of anime. I was into it quite religiously in secondary school but I left it behind along with everything else from my secondary school life

. TMI?

GalwayGuy2 · 25-12-2013 09:39PM

Haha. You're right! He does look like 'Noo-dissed beeeach' guy . This is not my first foray into the world of anime. I was into it quite religiously in secondary school but I left it behind along with everything else from my secondary school life . TMI?

Funnily enough, I did that with every book I read in secondary school. Harry Potter, Alex Rider, Sabrial, Garth Nix, and until recently Robert Jordan. There were good books, but I can't help but see them as a little childish. Yet, adults who have gotten into them, see them as having hidden depths, or just being a different method of story-telling. It's kind of funny how people see things as childish when they were part of their childhood?

But, luckily or unluckily for me, I got into anime in the immaturity of college :P

Daveysil15 · 25-12-2013 09:41PM

Pug160 wrote: »

Some of the physiques you see in magazines or pictures on the internet would be very hard to acquire, even with a lot of hard work and dedication. Those Apollo's belts and really defined abs you see some of those men with are down to genetics as well as diet and hard work. Not to mention the fact they are probably waxed, oiled and false tanned to within an inch of their lives. This might might sound silly, but the part I'd dread the most would be the regular waxing, rather than the diet and hard work. It would either be that or several laser treatments.

And in some cases photoshopped too. It's not just women that are airbrushed and made to look slimmer. I remember seen a documentary where the retouchers made a fitness models shoulders wider and his waist smaller. And he was already is excellent shape.

Da Za · 25-12-2013 09:43PM

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Agreed , but as quick as these juicers gain muscle they end up losing it just as fast when they have to come off the gear so ladies the lesson here is to always go for a natural man with real muscle we're buff all year round and we got the balls to back it up .

Lol and to a previous comment before.

Aidric · 25-12-2013 09:45PM

FFS, some of those lads look like they were carved out of a tree.

Da Za · 25-12-2013 09:46PM

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

I'm going to have to disagree with you here.

Just from my experiences from OD and from reading what guys have said. Girls tend to only go for guys who are big. Not fat mind you but big.

It was just from conversations I've had with a couple of people, one being married to an Eastern European and has been there a lot.

I sorta brought this up to start a Congo on it and see what people thought.

Obviously a guy fore and forth most has to be a gentlemen.

I was talking bout big big guys not bodybuilder type attention seekers!

mufcboy1999 · 25-12-2013 09:56PM

Pug160 wrote: »

Some of the physiques you see in magazines or pictures on the internet would be very hard to acquire, even with a lot of hard work and dedication. Those Apollo's belts and really defined abs you see some of those men with are down to genetics as well as diet and hard work. Not to mention the fact they are probably waxed, oiled and false tanned to within an inch of their lives. This might might sound silly, but the part I'd dread the most would be the regular waxing, rather than the diet and hard work. It would either be that or several laser treatments.

Very hard if not impossible to attain naturally. The vast majority of these fitness models or so called natural bodybuilders juice/clen etc there is no point what so ever trying to look as ripped and vasculine as them if you are natural because it really isn't possible without some sort of aid.

Stench Blossoms · 25-12-2013 09:59PM

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Very hard if not impossible to attain naturally. The vast majority of these fitness models so called natural bodybuilders juice/clen etc there is no point what so ever trying to look as ripped and vasculine as them if you are natural because it really really isn't possible without some sort of aid.

Not true at all. There are plenty of people that have bodies similar to that who are natural.

Dominic Munnelly who's a personal trainer is just one off the top of my head.

Facebook page is here

Pug160 · 25-12-2013 10:06PM

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Not true at all. There are plenty of people that have bodies similar to that who are natural.

Dominic Munnelly who's a personal trainer is just one off the top of my head.

Facebook page is here

Oh his body is achievable. I was referring to the men who have seemingly perfect looking abs that look as though they've been cut from marble, as well as those Apollo's belts. We can all dramatically change but most of us are limited genetically. From what I gather, a lot of people go on a calorie deficit diet to get prominent abs but are not able to sustain it. It's kind of a ''look what I once did'' kind of thing, and not a continuous lifestyle change. Like I said though, it's a lot of effort, not just in terms of diet and hard work, but waxing and all the rest of it. But yeah, everybody can become ''ripped'' to a certain extent.

lostdisk · 25-12-2013 10:08PM

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Not true at all. There are plenty of people that have bodies similar to that who are natural.

Dominic Munnelly who's a personal trainer is just one off the top of my head.

Facebook page is here

He looks about 95 or 100kg. 6'?

Edited. Read that wrong.

GreeBo · 25-12-2013 10:13PM

One thing to note is that the models are all half starved before a shoot. My abs are way more visible in the morning than the evening.
They probably don't look like that day to day, while still looking very well of course

KwackerJack · 25-12-2013 10:15PM

When you cant turn your neck and it takes 120 shuffles of the wheel to get your mx5 around the corner

Stench Blossoms · 25-12-2013 10:17PM

Pug160 wrote: »

Oh his body is achievable. I was referring to the men who have seemingly perfect looking abs that look as though they've been cut from marble, as well as those Apollo's belts. We can all dramatically change but most of us are limited genetically. From what I gather, a lot of people go on a calorie deficit diet to get prominent abs but are not able to sustain it. It's kind of a ''look what I once did'' kind of thing, and not a continuous lifestyle change. Like I said though, it's a lot of effort, not just in terms of diet and hard work, but waxing and all the rest of it. But yeah, everybody can become ''ripped'' to a certain extent.

Getting abs require watching what you eat and exercising but I'm going to disagree with the 'look what i once did' thing. They can be maintained.

When is a man too fit?

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