Celtic FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2014/15 Mod Warning post #6011

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-12-2013 10:01PM

NIMAN wrote: »

What sort of crowds are Celtic getting at home these days?

Real figures, not one that includes Season ticket holders.

About 30k today i think

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-12-2013 10:02PM

Antifa161 wrote: »

The usual apologists are going to have a hard time squirming to defend that one. The people running our club are quite simply a disgrace.

I cant see anyone defending this tbh

LiamoSail · 21-12-2013 10:02PM

NIMAN wrote: »

What sort of crowds are Celtic getting at home these days?

Real figures, not one that includes Season ticket holders.

Official today was 46k I believe. Estimates of actual today around the 30k mark

It'll only get worse the way fans are being treated IMO

RoisinD · 21-12-2013 10:47PM

LiamoSail wrote: »

Official today was 46k I believe. Estimates of actual today around the 30k mark

It'll only get worse the way fans are being treated IMO

Ah no you have that wrong. It is all the fault of the GB, now they are gone everyone will go rushing back and the atmosphere will be amazing. They are responsible for everything bad regardless of what the evidence or lack of it says.;) Incidentally very well done to them today for their efforts for the foodbank. The amount they collected was unreal and that was without any help from Celtic PLC despite promises to help publicise it.

On another note watched the match today and it was really frustrating. As has been said if Ledley and Sammi want away then give some of the others on the bench a chance. Would love to see some fresh legs on there.

Dempsey · 22-12-2013 03:01AM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

I cant see anyone defending this tbh

Same old rhetoric by the same few tbh

Whats suppose to be defended?

Lennonist · 22-12-2013 11:57AM

Dempsey wrote: »

Signing Finnbogason was always unlikely and he's said as much recently. His next step was always a top league not another feeder league.

Who said as much, Finnbogason? When did he say that and what exactly did he say? If it was the case that he was holding out to go to a top league, we'll never know because Celtic didn't meet the asking price from Heerenveen to get the chance to ask him if he would come to Celtic. I've seen it reported recently that Celtic didn't meet the 5 million valuation Heerenveen had of the player. If that's true, then the board completely failed in their job of securing adequate replacements for players sold and of using the resources at their disposal to equip the team properly.

The board are pissing off the fans on lots of fronts at the moment. It appears that they have disappeared up their own holes and are sitting on their laurels after the CL campaign last season. This arrogance has extended to shabby treatment of supporters in the stadium. These are successful times for Celtic domestically and there is great opportunity to do relatively well at CL level, but the board are contriving to put a dampener on things by failing in their duties.

Hagar the Nice. · 22-12-2013 12:41PM

Lennonist wrote: »

Who said as much, Finnbogason? When did he say that and what exactly did he say? If it was the case that he was holding out to go to a top league, we'll never know because Celtic didn't meet the asking price from Heerenveen to get the chance to ask him if he would come to Celtic. I've seen it reported recently that Celtic didn't meet the 5 million valuation Heerenveen had of the player. If that's true, then the board completely failed in their job of securing adequate replacements for players sold and of using the resources at their disposal to equip the team properly.

The board are pissing off the fans on lots of fronts at the moment. It appears that they have disappeared up their own holes and are sitting on their laurels after the CL campaign last season. This arrogance has extended to shabby treatment of supporters in the stadium. These are successful times for Celtic domestically and there is great opportunity to do relatively well at CL level, but the board are contriving to put a dampener on things by failing in their duties.

Sometimes you have to gamble and in my opinion if Alf can be signed in January,he'll be settled in for the CL next session.
I thought Teemu was good yesterday,so perhaps he'll also come good.

Hagar the Nice. · 22-12-2013 04:08PM

Sad news regarding a young lad who plays for Hearts under14's.
Died this morning.

R.I.P. Jamie Skinner.

Coillte_Bhoy · 22-12-2013 07:30PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Same old rhetoric by the same few tbh

Whats suppose to be defended?

You've lost me

What same few??

Antifa161 · 22-12-2013 07:47PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

You've lost me What same few??

There's only a very small number of us on here who don't seem to think our board can do no wrong.

Dempsey · 23-12-2013 01:51AM

Lennonist wrote: »

Who said as much, Finnbogason? When did he say that and what exactly did he say? If it was the case that he was holding out to go to a top league, we'll never know because Celtic didn't meet the asking price from Heerenveen to get the chance to ask him if he would come to Celtic. I've seen it reported recently that Celtic didn't meet the 5 million valuation Heerenveen had of the player. If that's true, then the board completely failed in their job of securing adequate replacements for players sold and of using the resources at their disposal to equip the team properly.

The board are pissing off the fans on lots of fronts at the moment. It appears that they have disappeared up their own holes and are sitting on their laurels after the CL campaign last season. This arrogance has extended to shabby treatment of supporters in the stadium. These are successful times for Celtic domestically and there is great opportunity to do relatively well at CL level, but the board are contriving to put a dampener on things by failing in their duties.

Dreamland

Lennonist · 23-12-2013 12:22PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Dreamland

You mean you don't know, so you were just making it up?

Antifa161 · 23-12-2013 06:04PM

The club have backed down over the pathetic ban on flags/banners at MacDiarmid Park. Seems they listened to the backlash and realised how few people would turn up. We know they don't care about our fans or the history and traditions of our club but the one thing they will pay heed to are dipping profits. Hit them where it hurts.

eire4 · 23-12-2013 07:08PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Nir Biton says hello! :pac:

He has looked quite good in the recent games for sure. But I still feel to lose Ledley would be a massive blow for us.

eire4 · 23-12-2013 07:11PM

PauloMN wrote: »

2-0, Forrest in the last second of added time.

To be fair their keepr MacDonald made a few good saves but one in each half in particular which looked like certain goals and kept them in the game a lot longer then they otherwise would have been. A decent if not brilliant performance. Man of the match for me was Izzy who once again was excellent and sent in a steady stream of good crosses.

Hagar the Nice. · 23-12-2013 07:34PM

Antifa161 wrote: »

The club have backed down over the pathetic ban on flags/banners at MacDiarmid Park. Seems they listened to the backlash and realised how few people would turn up. We know they don't care about our fans or the history and traditions of our club but the one thing they will pay heed to are dipping profits. Hit them where it hurts.

Police Scotland are saying the ban still stands.

Antifa161 · 23-12-2013 07:48PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25499023

PauloMN · 23-12-2013 09:23PM

Antifa161 wrote: »

The club have backed down over the pathetic ban on flags/banners at MacDiarmid Park. Seems they listened to the backlash and realised how few people would turn up. We know they don't care about our fans or the history and traditions of our club but the one thing they will pay heed to are dipping profits. Hit them where it hurts.

I suspect you jumped the gun by blaming our club yet again, but that does not surprise me:

Celtic FC Statement wrote:

We have an excellent relationship with everyone at St Johnstone FC and we thank them and the police for reviewing their initial decision.

Let's hope the fans can go to the game without fireworks. None of this stuff - this pathetic flag ban or the GB nonsense - would have happened if people just followed simple rules.

Broxi_Bear_Eire · 24-12-2013 02:18AM

Oops

http://t.co/sOTMZQ8qh8

Antifa161 · 24-12-2013 04:49AM

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Oops

http://t.co/sOTMZQ8qh8

Hilarious if true, although I don't know how that conversation would have to go without it being discovered.

Coillte_Bhoy · 24-12-2013 09:52AM

Courtesy of the HB

LiamoSail · 24-12-2013 11:29AM

Sometime you just have to hold your hands up and say "We made a balls of that"

Eirebear · 24-12-2013 11:36AM

'tis quite funny

.

On a serious note though, why are the Celtic board taking the blame for a decision apparently made by St. Johnstone and the Perthshire polis?

PauloMN · 24-12-2013 12:07PM

Eirebear wrote: »

'tis quite funny .

On a serious note though, why are the Celtic board taking the blame for a decision apparently made by St. Johnstone and the Perthshire polis?

That's my point. Some of our fans will happily blame the PLC for their hangovers on Stephens Day.

Latest on the flegs - from that statement, it definitely does look like they called the wrong club yesterday

:
http://celticfc.net/newsstory?item=5164

FOR clarity, Celtic Football Club has received confirmation that flags and banners will now be permitted at the match against St Johnstone on Boxing Day.

Last week, Celtic Football Club noted the advice given by local police regarding safety, flags and banners at the match.

We acknowledge we had not received final confirmation yesterday in terms of a change. However, we are pleased, following consultation and discussion over the past couple of days, that the initial decision has been reviewed by the Police and St Johnstone FC.

As we have said, football is about colour and atmosphere and creating a positive occasion for all and everything should be done to ensure that such an event can take place.

However, we should also bear in mind that supporter safety is of paramount importance and we would re-iterate, therefore, that we do not welcome any form of pyrotechnics or smoke bombs at our matches.

We want to see our matches played in a positive and safe atmosphere and we hope this will be the case on Boxing Day.

Dempsey · 24-12-2013 12:27PM

Lennonist wrote: »

Who said as much, Finnbogason? When did he say that and what exactly did he say? If it was the case that he was holding out to go to a top league, we'll never know because Celtic didn't meet the asking price from Heerenveen to get the chance to ask him if he would come to Celtic. I've seen it reported recently that Celtic didn't meet the 5 million valuation Heerenveen had of the player. If that's true, then the board completely failed in their job of securing adequate replacements for players sold and of using the resources at their disposal to equip the team properly.

The board are pissing off the fans on lots of fronts at the moment. It appears that they have disappeared up their own holes and are sitting on their laurels after the CL campaign last season. This arrogance has extended to shabby treatment of supporters in the stadium. These are successful times for Celtic domestically and there is great opportunity to do relatively well at CL level, but the board are contriving to put a dampener on things by failing in their duties.

Lennonist wrote: »

You mean you don't know, so you were just making it up?

Firstly, Finnbogason wasnt available for £5m during the summer. Celtic were chancing their arm because of their debt problem which wasnt a big enough problem to flog Finnbogason at a cut price. Celtic were told as much in a very public manner. EPL clubs we looking at him too and nothing happened for them either but according to some £5m and he'd have swam the North Sea to play in the SPFL! The price for him is only coming down now because he's told the club that he wont be signing a new contract.

Secondly, it was only a day or two after his initial statement about where he'll go that he clarified that he would be leaving for a "top league". Do you think SPFL fits that description? It was only a few weeks ago that Virgil van Dijk claimed that the SPFL is just about on par with Eredivisie. Finnbogason will know this too because he lived in Scotland, he has a better idea about Scottish Football than most foreign players.

bobbysands81 · 24-12-2013 12:48PM

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Dempsey, no doubt all that's true and no doubting flares and other pyro are dangerous but the Record headline is a tad OTT and without doubt scaremongering bordering on hysteria.

Taken in context very few people die from pyro at sporting events in any given year whilst 150 people die every year in the States from peanut allergies.

This isn't a dig at you but at the hysteric headline from the Record... which has probably been prompted by someone else.

Some poor girl recently died in Dublin from a peanut allergy.

Awful.

shanered · 24-12-2013 01:26PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Firstly, Finnbogason wasnt available for £5m during the summer. Celtic were chancing their arm because of their debt problem which wasnt a big enough problem to flog Finnbogason at a cut price. Celtic were told as much in a very public manner. EPL clubs we looking at him too and nothing happened for them either but according to some £5m and he'd have swam the North Sea to play in the SPFL! The price for him is only coming down now because he's told the club that he wont be signing a new contract.

Secondly, it was only a day or two after his initial statement about where he'll go that he clarified that he would be leaving for a "top league". Do you think SPFL fits that description? It was only a few weeks ago that Virgil van Dijk claimed that the SPFL is just about on par with Eredivisie. Finnbogason will know this too because he lived in Scotland, he has a better idea about Scottish Football than most foreign players.

Champions league??????

Coillte_Bhoy · 24-12-2013 01:55PM

PauloMN wrote: »

That's my point. Some of our fans will happily blame the PLC for their hangovers on Stephens Day.

Latest on the flegs - from that statement, it definitely does look like they called the wrong club yesterday :
http://celticfc.net/newsstory?item=5164

Well the board werent very pro active were they when the ban was first announced? Not a peep from them. AFAIK they 'reluctantly' accepted it, if thats the case then shame on them.

Just nothiced this from few days ago on St J website

At a meeting last week and in consideration of the safety requirements of the match and based on the risk assessment provided by Police Scotland on their current intelligence of potential disorder at the game, St Johnstone FC and Celtic FC endorsed a Police Scotland suggestion that a ban be placed on flags and banners for the match between the clubs at McDiarmid Park on Boxing Day.

Lennonist · 24-12-2013 02:59PM

Dempsey wrote: »

Firstly, Finnbogason wasnt available for £5m during the summer. Celtic were chancing their arm because of their debt problem which wasnt a big enough problem to flog Finnbogason at a cut price. Celtic were told as much in a very public manner. EPL clubs we looking at him too and nothing happened for them either but according to some £5m and he'd have swam the North Sea to play in the SPFL! The price for him is only coming down now because he's told the club that he wont be signing a new contract.

Can you provide some links to what you're saying please. I've read newspaper reports recently that he was available for 5 million last summer but Celtic baulked at the asking price.

This article linked is from last August: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2389590/Celtic-pay-5m-Heerenveen-striker-Alfred-Finnbogason.html

They might be wrong, but then again maybe it's you that is wrong.

Dempsey wrote: »

Secondly, it was only a day or two after his initial statement about where he'll go that he clarified that he would be leaving for a "top league". Do you think SPFL fits that description? It was only a few weeks ago that Virgil van Dijk claimed that the SPFL is just about on par with Eredivisie. Finnbogason will know this too because he lived in Scotland, he has a better idea about Scottish Football than most foreign players.

Did he say this recently or did he say this last summer. Again links please.

bobbysands81 · 24-12-2013 04:37PM

The one and only Shooter out shopping today in Tesco. The man's got some neck.

His shopping cost him more than Rangers!

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