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  • #692
    Faith
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    kenco wrote: »
    Just finished work for the festive period, kids food done and glass of wine had!

    But....bought some spice beef on the way home along with other provisions. Now I likes my beef but spiced beef I have never been able to get it 'right' so would love some recommendations (Im thinking Faith has this covered and will be typing presently but all recommendations welcome!)

    I'm no use to you I'm afraid! I've actually never cooked it myself. It's my mum who does it at home and I've only bought it cooked and sliced.


  • #693
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    ComputerKing wrote: »
    No one seems to see his side of the argument there were people just walking onto his property when he wasn't there just to look at the contents of his skip.
    The skip was on the footpath.


  • #694
    Animord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Animord


    I may or may not be suffering from après alcohol induced lethargy and have been reading this thread from the beginning.

    Merkin, you asked for a lemon tart recipe way back at the beginning and I didn't see one posted. But if you are still looking, in my opinion the Roux brothers one is the absolute best.

    Right, I am off to do some very important work in the armchair in front of the fire. :pac:


  • #695
    MissFlitworth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    Friends coming over for Christmas drinks tonight. Having buffalo paneer (as in deep fried & tossed in Franks & butter rather than buffalo buffalo) and baked camembert with loads of bread as nibbles then white chocolate dipped pretzels and brown butter rice crispie squares as sweet nibbles. Having that 'people coming!' panicky feeling telling me I don't have enough food and to get my ass to the shops. Must...resist..


  • #696
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,474 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Got a redeem code for an app (Meal Board) whilst in a Starbucks in the US. Just tried it there, only works in the US iTunes store. Think it's for meal planning, etc.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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  • #697
    Animord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Animord


    I am having problems with all these cut price vegetables.

    I understand what is going on and I completely understand why people are buying them. What's not to like about 1kg of carrots for 5 cent?

    But I keep thinking of the Irish farmers, particularly the Brussels Sprout farmers, who really one have one big week of the year, and now they are screwed.

    I did buy some the other day but I am not going to buy any more. The vegetables on my table on Christmas day are all going to have been grown in Ireland and I will pay a fair price for them.


  • #698
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Animord wrote: »
    I am having problems with all these cut price vegetables.

    I understand what is going on and I completely understand why people are buying them. What's not to like about 1kg of carrots for 5 cent?

    But I keep thinking of the Irish farmers, particularly the Brussels Sprout farmers, who really one have one big week of the year, and now they are screwed.

    I did buy some the other day but I am not going to buy any more. The vegetables on my table on Christmas day are all going to have been grown in Ireland and I will pay a fair price for them.
    That's an issue for me, and also the fact that supermarkets are making out that you'll save a fortune if you buy cheap veg. Carrots and sprouts are not the most expensive part of a shop even when they are fairly priced. Customers are being royally screwed elsewhere anyway.


  • #699
    Merkin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,230 ✭✭✭Merkin


    My folks are in agreement and are buying the veg from local farmers this year, eventhough its more expensive.I really feel for them too Animord. And thank you so much re lemon tart recipe, you're a star!


  • #700
    iwantmydinner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭iwantmydinner


    Animord wrote: »
    I am having problems with all these cut price vegetables.

    I understand what is going on and I completely understand why people are buying them. What's not to like about 1kg of carrots for 5 cent?

    But I keep thinking of the Irish farmers, particularly the Brussels Sprout farmers, who really one have one big week of the year, and now they are screwed.

    I did buy some the other day but I am not going to buy any more. The vegetables on my table on Christmas day are all going to have been grown in Ireland and I will pay a fair price for them.

    I don't really know how anyone could buy those cut price items in all good conscience. I certainly couldn't buy them, but then I have more experience than most of the pressures exerted on producers by supermarkets, through my job.

    It all goes back to people not knowing or caring where their food comes from. It's a huge problem and I'd love to know how to solve it.

    ETA: not having a go, Animord; just realised it could come across that way.


  • #701
    Faith
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Surely the farmers get the usual price for their produce though, and it's the supermarket that absorbs the loss as a loss leader?


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  • #702
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Faith wrote: »
    Surely the farmers get the usual price for their produce though, and it's the supermarket that absorbs the loss as a loss leader?
    No, that's not how discounts in supermarkets work. The supermarket says to the farmer, we're going to sell your product at a loss, and if you don't absorb the loss yourself, well, byebye and we'll find another supplier. All the big supermarkets do it.


  • #703
    Faith
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    No, that's not how discounts in supermarkets work. The supermarket says to the farmer, we're going to sell your product at a loss, and if you don't absorb the loss yourself, well, byebye and we'll find another supplier. All the big supermarkets do it.

    Oh :/. I didn't know that, I thought the supermarkets absorbed it because people would buy so much more once they're in the door.


  • #704
    IvyTheTerrible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    Faith wrote: »
    Oh :/. I didn't know that, I thought the supermarkets absorbed it because people would buy so much more once they're in the door.
    Well they deny it but there is lots of evidence to the contrary:
    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2013-03-24/4582278


  • #705
    dee_mc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,211 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    I don't know if it's true of all supermarkets but it seems Aldi in particular are absorbing the cost of the promotion themselves, and still paying a 'fair' price to farmers. http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/farmers-set-to-protest-over-cut-price-food-war-253082.html
    I bought some of their veg during the week to make soup, but will be getting the bulk of my fruit and veg from the local market stall, as even if the farmers are getting a fair price for their produce, small business owners are clearly missing out on business because of these promotions.


  • #706
    Animord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Animord


    dee_mc wrote: »
    I don't know if it's true of all supermarkets but it seems Aldi in particular are absorbing the cost of the promotion themselves, and still paying a 'fair' price to farmers. http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/farmers-set-to-protest-over-cut-price-food-war-253082.html
    I bought some of their veg during the week to make soup, but will be getting the bulk of my fruit and veg from the local market stall, as even if the farmers are getting a fair price for their produce, small business owners are clearly missing out on business because of these promotions.

    But the vegetables you are buying are, as far as I can see, not Irish. So the Irish growers are getting screwed anyway.

    Iwantmydinner: I am not in any way offended, I agree wholeheartedly, but like many others I have seen my job go to three days a week, my mortgage sure as hell isn't going down and I have to save money in any way I can.

    I come from a farming background and in fact make a food product that I sell at Farmer's markets, so it is not like I don't understand the problems from both sides. I might have been more forceful in my original post, but I don't want to make people who are already having a hard time feel any worse.

    Edited in Christmas spirit: I am not suggesting you do want people to feel bad either - lol, just in case anyone reads it that way.


  • #707
    Animord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,004 ✭✭✭Animord


    IvyTheTerrible wrote: »
    Well they deny it but there is lots of evidence to the contrary:
    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/2013-03-24/4582278


    There have been several very good books on the subject of which this is a good one. It is a terrifying read and there is loads of stuff that I just wont touch in supermarkets, prawns being one of them, since I read it.


  • #708
    MissFlitworth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    Medicating a chronic Aperol Spritz hangover with doritos, rice crispie squares, paracetemol and a promise to myself that I will never, ever uncork anything ever again. Need to go buy dishwasher tab things to make the mess go away but afraid I'll vom in Centra, the poor people in Centra don't deserve that.


  • #709
    MurdyWurdy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭MurdyWurdy


    Both Aldi and Lidl have publicly said they are absorbing the loss, not the suppliers


  • #710
    The Hill Billy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Some of the local farmers in my area back home are just ploughing the veg back into the ground to minimise their losses this year. They are being crucified on price & it would only cost more to harvest.


  • #711
    Gloomtastic!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,351 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    I got a free sack of spuds from my dog food supplier as a Christmas thank you. I buy a lot of dog food. :)


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  • #712
    iwantmydinner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭iwantmydinner


    There is one thing certain - the suprlermarkets won't have a dent in their profits as a result of this stunt. My (somewhat educated) guess is that it'll be a combination of a) the customers will pay a bit extra on other items, and b) the suppliers will be forced to take a cut in weeks/months to come.

    "Our research shows our customers are unwilling to pay €x for these carrots. You'll haveto cut your price by €x per tonne."

    "But I can't give you a price cut. My margin is already negligible!"

    "No problem. We'll find another supplier willing to trade in our terms."


  • #713
    iwantmydinner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭iwantmydinner


    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    Some of the local farmers in my area back home are just ploughing the veg back into the ground to minimise their losses this year. They are being crucified on price & it would only cost more to harvest.

    That is horrific.


  • #714
    Dizzyblonde
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    Some of the local farmers in my area back home are just ploughing the veg back into the ground to minimise their losses this year. They are being crucified on price & it would only cost more to harvest.

    That's must be heartbreaking.


  • #715
    The Hill Billy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    I know that people are tight for cash, but if you can, please buy Irish produce from an independent shopkeeper, farmers market or even better - direct from the farm.


  • #716
    GalwayGuy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    To change the topic a little :)

    Which is better value: Breast on bone or Chicken breast fillets. I lost my weighiing scale so I'm not sure the weight.

    3 Chicken Breasts with Bone: 7.50

    500g of chicken breasts fillets: 5.00


  • #717
    Dolbert
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    I know that people are tight for cash, but if you can, please buy Irish produce from an independent shopkeeper, farmers market or even better - direct from the farm.

    This is my new year's resolution actually. I do buy from the local greengrocers and butchers but not often enough - going to change that :)


  • #718
    MissFlitworth
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    Dolbert wrote: »
    This is my new year's resolution actually. I do buy from the local greengrocers and butchers but not often enough - going to change that :)

    Me too. I sometimes find it really difficult to shop anywhere that isn't a supermarket with late opening hours, just with work schedules (and <cough> laziness), but this year we are changing around how we shop a bit and going to try and be better organised and more clever with how & when we shop. Feel a bit ill thinking about people being driven into the ground so that I can have 69c bags of apples.


  • #719
    Dizzyblonde
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    I know that people are tight for cash, but if you can, please buy Irish produce from an independent shopkeeper, farmers market or even better - direct from the farm.

    Our local supermarket buy any fruit and veg that's in season from the North County growers. Their eggs and a lot of other produce are local too.
    Too may producers are being squeezed out of business by the multiples.


  • #720
    Faith
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Animord wrote: »

    I come from a farming background and in fact make a food product that I sell at Farmer's markets

    Sweet or savoury? I'll be wondering if it's you at every stall at the farmers markets now! :D


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  • #721
    Dizzyblonde
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    Faith wrote: »
    Sweet or savoury? I'll be wondering if it's you at every stall at the farmers markets now! :D

    That's how stalking starts ;)


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