A discussion on the rules.

hotfoot wrote: »

There are more bad comments and bigotry against travellers, it seems more acceptable than any other ethnic group or nationality.

Got a question to criticise a race is it considered racism ?

Well, yes.

hotfoot wrote:

There was mention in a mod post earlier that if Administration interferred with mods there would be a strike .
What a senario how would the mods exist without their ban button . Looking at the threads with no control just decending into chaos or so they would want us to believe .Could you live without your ban button ?

Gosh? Give up putting in free effort to keep the place reasonably civil and posters on topic for the good of all? Whatever would I do?

cordially,
Scofflaw

I don't get this left wing bias thing, there's a good few more right wing posters about to balance things out.

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Really from a brief glance I don;t have a clue who that could be?

bluewolf - No
K-9 - No
Lockstep - No
sceptre - No
Scofflaw -No

Black Swan - Potentially but if he/she is they keep extremely quiet about it, so much so that since my curiosity was aroused literally no relevant results came up with the keywords "Adams" "Gerry" "Sinn Fein" " "IRA" "good friday", which is pretty impossible if one has an active interest in republican politics. So I would go for a No there too.

Apologies if I am misrepresenting mods views but I don't think I am and its a significant absence of view considering there have been a few mods quite hostile to SF but never a counter balance.

At the moment I'm not sure there are any strong anti-SF mods to be balanced. In general, the problem would seem to me to be that supporting republicanism isn't as a rule quite the same as supporting one of the 'mainstream' parties - the level of dedication has tended to be higher. There are people I can think of who are as dedicated in their support for FF or another such as most republicans, but they're few enough, and I wouldn't be happy to see them modding politics.

Conversely, I can think of at least one republican poster who I'd be happy to see as a mod, but they're again few enough. I don't think that's because of bias on my part, because I don't have (and find weird, tbh) the visceral anti-SF thing that is a definite part of Irish politics. As far as I'm concerned it's because serious republicanism is a political position which still requires constant defence against media and public prejudice, and that in turn requires a mindset which is not conducive to modding.

The only way having a pro-republican mod is meaningful is if they exercise their sympathies in favour of the republican posters here, and that in turn is only a positive thing if republican posters are somehow being unfairly treated and preferentially repressed by the current mod team. I don't see that as being the case, but I can see that some republican posters would see it as being the case - which, in turn, is exactly why most republican posters would make unacceptable mods for Politics.

cordially,
Scofflaw

So i take it this disgusting "northern" Ireland page is here to stay in the politics forum then? Yeah, shove all the nordies (even though half of the threads in it, if not more, are all Ireland issues) into a corner so we can deal with proper "Irish" politics. Issues that affect the whole island, like the Donegal council budgetary problems, or the split within huge national movements such as, eh, direct democracy.....

Crooked Jack wrote: »

So i take it this disgusting "northern" Ireland page is here to stay in the politics forum then? Yeah, shove all the nordies (even though half of the threads in it, if not more, are all Ireland issues) into a corner so we can deal with proper "Irish" politics. Issues that affect the whole island, like the Donegal council budgetary problems, or the split within huge national movements such as, eh, direct democracy.....

The Donegal Council budget thread had a wider political impact, how the thread developed showed it's a wider political issue, indeed something that needed to be brought to wider attention IMO.

On Direct Democracy, how many posters often call for an alternative to FF/FG/Labour/SF? It's a very common post in politics, people are interested in alternatives like them and the Reform Alliance. Both aren't my cup of tea either, but plenty of people are interested in discussing them.

I'd no problem with a N.I. dedicated sub forum but I'd have voiced concerns that the main politics boards might have suffered with the creation of it. Have to say I'm happy enough with how it's going atm.

I dont mind the separate forum as a matter of principal but it seems it has preformed its function which is much reduced discussion on northern issues.

People were getting their knickers in a twist over the first page of the main forum having threads which dealt with important all Ireland issues

RDM_83 again wrote: »

It would be nice if there was some consistency applied in relation to the idea that



This is an actual rule because its weakened when posts like this are allowed to stand.

The warning was to nip in the bud a sniping contest developing, derailing the thread. N.I. threads tend to escalate quickly that way.

Or is there only a problem with one-liners and pointless posting if a poster with the opposing viewpoint actually bites and starts replying?

Sometimes a one liner has a valid point, sometimes little or nothing of value, I'd say that one falls under the latter category. I'd agree with scofflaw, I prefer to see users ignore one liners like that, less waste of mods and more importantly, users time.

Nodin wrote: »

I was under the impression that conflation of homosexuality with paedophilia and/or pederasty was a "no go"......

Sometimes it better to argue and debate a point than just ban it. If a poster keeps repeating something without providing any back up, then we are into soapbox territory.