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Selling a used car in Ireland guide

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    dardhal wrote: »
    Well, I am not sure, but is it possible for a guy to transfer some money to your PayPal account and later on backpedal, leaving you with no car and no money at all? Not that the story checks or looks right, but as long as the owner's certificate gets sent to the motor tax office and change of ownership is completed, theoretically, once the money is in your PayPal account, what could go wrong?
    "
    Anyways, now that I am trying myself to get rid of my car I am starting to realize how bizarre buying and selling cars privately here can be. Most people basically not reading the ads at all, people ringing you despite having said not to initially (for example, because you are too busy at work), lads offering even less for a perfectly working vehicle (even NCT'ed and tax'ed) than what you could get at the scrap yard by weight, etc.

    I am afraid mine will go the way of the scrap yard next week, as I prefer to get 150€ from someone ripping it to pieces and recycling it, than 300€ from someone which is simply going to book the NCT, add 1000€ to the price tag afterwards, and wait patiently for someone to give him a "nice" profit.

    That last paragraph makes no sense !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭dardhal


    That last paragraph makes no sense !

    Makes no sense to you, for me, it makes lots of it. Don't get me wrong, I respect those in the business of honest professional and sort-of professional car dealership, buy and sell, etc. There is no "right" price other than set by the market. However, not desperately needing the money, my priorities would be, in this order:
    1. Sell privately the car to someone that is going to own and use it.
    2. Sell to some professional seller at a "fair price", for them to add some value to the car and resell it at a "reasonable" price
    3. The car being quite old and having long past its best years, putting it off the roads, turn into much needed spare parts, and give new life to scrap metal and other components, boosting local businesses in the process
    4. Desperately getting rid of the car handing it over to some guy paying peanuts for it, who will later perform some minor face lifting to it, if at all, managing to sell it to someone in group 1. at five the times he paid for it and double the price he would have paid for the same on a private sale

    As mentioned, for me anyone mentioned above is worth of the utmost respect to me. Even the guy in 4. serves a purpose and fills a gap in the market, however, given the chance, I would stop at 3., even at a personal (relative) loss. Makes the same amount of sense as buying something (expensive) local when you can buy the same (cheaper) abroad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    My priority when selling a car is to sell it.

    Couldnt give a high flying ****e what happens after that.

    Id imagine youre over thinking it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,771 ✭✭✭michael999999


    dardhal wrote: »
    Makes no sense to you, for me, it makes lots of it. Don't get me wrong, I respect those in the business of honest professional and sort-of professional car dealership, buy and sell, etc. There is no "right" price other than set by the market. However, not desperately needing the money, my priorities would be, in this order:
    1. Sell privately the car to someone that is going to own and use it.
    2. Sell to some professional seller at a "fair price", for them to add some value to the car and resell it at a "reasonable" price
    3. The car being quite old and having long past its best years, putting it off the roads, turn into much needed spare parts, and give new life to scrap metal and other components, boosting local businesses in the process
    4. Desperately getting rid of the car handing it over to some guy paying peanuts for it, who will later perform some minor face lifting to it, if at all, managing to sell it to someone in group 1. at five the times he paid for it and double the price he would have paid for the same on a private sale

    As mentioned, for me anyone mentioned above is worth of the utmost respect to me. Even the guy in 4. serves a purpose and fills a gap in the market, however, given the chance, I would stop at 3., even at a personal (relative) loss. Makes the same amount of sense as buying something (expensive) local when you can buy the same (cheaper) abroad.

    You either have plenty money or no sense!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 gizc


    I need to sell my 2009 vw passat 1.4 tsi 82000 miles . The variance in prices online is unreal was thinking 9500 to 10,000 am I on the right track . It's nct'd for 2 years in great nick


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 JL89


    I recently wrote off my car and without going in to too much detail I was compensated €6,000.
    At the moment I have to decide between 2 cars and looking for advice...

    1. Ford Focus 2007. 1.4 petrol & 109,000 km. It is the basic Lx model so nothing fancy. I can buy it for the 6,ooo. It is also similar to my crashed car.
    2. Volkswagon Golf 2005. 2 litre TDI Diesel. This would cost approx €6,500 to buy and has 120,000 km on it to date.
    I’m not sure what to do..I’m a 24 yr old male so insurance would be approx 200euro extra for the golf and it has higher road tax. However it would be cheaper to run, I drive approx 15,000km a year.

    What do people think? I’d prefer the golf but not sure if its the right call...help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    15000 around town or where?

    120km sounds very low for a 2.0 Golf, was the 2.0 even available here in 05? Sure it isnt miles?

    You need to decide whether you want petrol or diesel. Also surely you should be able to get a Zetec at least. Lx is so very basic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭phkk


    : http://www.adverts.ie/2840980

    Finally got around to getting NCT on car, how does the adv look now guys? Thanks for any feedback


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I hope its okay to ask this here

    Thinking of selling my VW Golf 1.4 3dr 2001 (millage ill have to check tomorrow but I think its high enough)
    Great condition and just had the timing belt done

    How much would that be worth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Really depends on how big the mileage and how good of an example it is.

    Somewhere between 900-1600 due to the little amount of info supplied.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭faral


    guys could you help please
    im just about to sell my car , guy gave me already deposit and everything is fine but a have a doubts-he looks very young to me so should I ask for any sort of ID?is it an offense to sell the car to underage person?he looks like somebody between 16-17.Anyway is it good to make an agreement with him that I am selling a car and he is buying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭✭stiofan85


    Just wanted to post a reply to this thread to say thanks for the help. I sold my car successfully and took all of the advice in the OP.

    The one thing I wanted to highlight is a couple of posts mentioned phoning a bank to check the bank draft is legit before handing the keys over. I tried this there now and the bank said they can't do this for data protection and they get a lot of similar calls. His advice was to go half cash, half draft. Mine wasn't for huge money, but just worth knowing.

    Thanks!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 988 ✭✭✭deadeye187


    anyone ever try these guys?

    http://www.cashforcar.ie/faq.php


    I`m thinking of selling my VW passit 1.9 tdi to them! Are they legit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    If you get money in your account before you sell it then they are!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 988 ✭✭✭deadeye187


    If you get money in your account before you sell it then they are!



    ooh really! so they are not good to do business with then, i`ll give them a miss so. thanks man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    What! No!

    Ive never heard of them, to be honest I didnt even click the link. All im saying is, if you are happy with the offer and you get money into your bank account, happy days!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 988 ✭✭✭deadeye187


    What! No!

    Ive never heard of them, to be honest I didnt even click the link. All im saying is, if you are happy with the offer and you get money into your bank account, happy days!


    lol......in that case, it would be happy days indeed!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    stiofan85 wrote: »
    The one thing I wanted to highlight is a couple of posts mentioned phoning a bank to check the bank draft is legit before handing the keys over. I tried this there now and the bank said they can't do this for data protection and they get a lot of similar calls.
    That doesn't make sense for a number of reasons:

    1) a bank draft is a piece of paper. I don't know how a bank can validate it over the phone.

    2) The last few bank drafts I used had no SPI on them. They had the payee's name and the rest was the bank's details. It's essentially a cheque from the bank, bought with your money. Ask them to verify what data is being protected.

    3) Your question was regarding the validity of the draft. That's a binary situation; it's valid or it's not. Ask them if data protection (assuming it's a valid concern, see point 2 above) trumps at attempt to defraud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    Ok so the mammy wants me to sell her car. I have read thru the thread and the impression I get is upsell the good points and not so much the bad. I mean I am not going to mislead anyone, I presume if they come to view and ask a specific question I'd obviously answer it, but I don't put it all in the ad? Like the mammy thinks she may need a new battery soon, but I bought that battery and I am pretty damn sure it is just a case of she doesn't drive the car very far very often so the bat doesn't get a decent charge.

    She is selling cos we have two cars in the household and canni really afford to run the two at the moment. It needs a little few things doing to it and putting through the NCT but I don't think that'd be overly costly IF you could afford to along with running a bigger car (mine). She just doesn't see the point of putting the money into it when she could put it into other things. She is retired and doesn't go many places (hence the battery thing above).

    So if I give ye what information I have to hand (guessing at the milage for now - tis too cold to go outside and check!) could ye possibly give me a ballpark figure. I still have to wash her and empty out the crap the mammy has in there before I take the pics so I can fire her up online.

    So. The car is a black Ford Fiesta year 2000. Milage I think is around the 95k mark. It's a 1.2. It has some scrapes - old car, mam's idiocies and wnkers in carparks!. Seats are a bit old looking - will try giving them a wash and see if they brighten up any. It has a CD player, Alloys. Low Tax - 3mths new tax will be on it. No NCT. Sunroof.

    Don't know what other information?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Throw it up for 600 as is.

    If you NCT it ( which I highly recommend) you should be able to ask twice that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭hdowney


    Throw it up for 600 as is.

    If you NCT it ( which I highly recommend) you should be able to ask twice that.

    I don't think it'd pass the nct as is, it'd require a few bits doing to it. I might go down to the local mechanics (that I use) and ask them what it'd need doing to go thru the NCT. If it doesn't cost a whole hape I'll get it done, throw it thru the NCT and then make a bit back on the sale please God. Thanks for the reply.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    hdowney wrote: »
    I don't think it'd pass the nct as is, it'd require a few bits doing to it. I might go down to the local mechanics (that I use) and ask them what it'd need doing to go thru the NCT. If it doesn't cost a whole hape I'll get it done, throw it thru the NCT and then make a bit back on the sale please God. Thanks for the reply.


    for 55 blips, lash it thru the nct first, see what it fails on, fix those exact issues, and then voila, a new cert!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭✭stiofan85


    No Pants wrote: »
    That doesn't make sense for a number of reasons:

    1) a bank draft is a piece of paper. I don't know how a bank can validate it over the phone.

    2) The last few bank drafts I used had no SPI on them. They had the payee's name and the rest was the bank's details. It's essentially a cheque from the bank, bought with your money. Ask them to verify what data is being protected.

    3) Your question was regarding the validity of the draft. That's a binary situation; it's valid or it's not. Ask them if data protection (assuming it's a valid concern, see point 2 above) trumps at attempt to defraud.

    I just pointed out the bank's response when I phoned them so anyone reading the thread gets my experience thrown into the mix.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭No Pants


    stiofan85 wrote: »
    I just pointed out the bank's response when I phoned them so anyone reading the thread gets my experience thrown into the mix.
    No bother. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭walus


    I'm thinking of trading in my old car as a part exchange for a newer model. I'm dealing with a "reputable" dealer and was wondering what sort of documents do I need to get from him confirming that my car has been transferred over leaving me with no liability for its future use? I understand I need to hand over the vehicle cert but how do I make sure that my liability ends there? Thanks.

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    They usually have a form that they fill out or if they're modern enough they can do it online. Usually the date on the sales receipt should cover you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭walus


    They usually have a form that they fill out or if they're modern enough they can do it online. Usually the date on the sales receipt should cover you.
    Yeah, I found this, seems to cover this topic well:
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/buying_or_selling_a_vehicle/change_of_ownership.html

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭whodafunk


    Hi All,

    I am selling a car privately. As a form of payment is a bank draft safe as opposed to cash or is there anything I should be aware of?

    Thank You


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    Make sure you take the draft during opening hours and accompany the buyer to the bank to lodge it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,536 ✭✭✭✭L-M


    Nothing is safe these days until you see the numbers in your account.


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