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Most capitalist action you can imagine.

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  • #32
    Rabelais
    Site Banned Posts: 263 ✭✭Rabelais


    Blowing up a cow with a rocket for 100 dollars at a Cambodian firing range.


  • #33
    KyussBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    It's completely unfair that more successful people get more wealth.

    I mean, how dare they strive to achieve something in life!
    So where is the 'unfair' part of wealth distribution? People defending capitalism, are defending it's 'unfairness' - where is that unfairness in distribution?


  • #34
    P_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    So what was the over/under line set at?


  • #35
    Callie Witty Lumberyard
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Callie Witty Lumberyard


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    It's completely unfair that more successful people get more wealth.

    I mean, how dare they strive to achieve something in life!

    Yeah... who even said it was about unfair distribution anyway?


  • #36
    le la rat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭le la rat


    Selling your children so you can afford to buy bitcoins


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  • #37
    KyussBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Yeah... who even said it was about unfair distribution anyway?
    You actually said it:
    bluewolf wrote: »
    I am pie wrote:
    To nit pick, union based needn't mean socialist per se. Unions should form an effective part of the capitalist system in ensuring that wealth is distributed equitably.
    That's more like socialism
    Equitable: "characterized by equity or fairness; just and right; fair; reasonable" - you're describing equitable i.e. fair distribution of wealth, as being more like socialism - thus capitalism is unfair/not-equitable in its distribution of wealth.


  • #38
    Callie Witty Lumberyard
    Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Callie Witty Lumberyard


    "Ensuring redistribution of wealth" is the main point there, not how fair or unfair it is

    Taking people's money off them without prior consent based on some arbitrary ideals, that's not capitalism


  • #39
    KyussBishop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    Nobody mentioned redistribution, only distribution - everyone has money taken off them without consent (taxes), in order for government to exist - and nobody can provide a workable alternative to having a government, because there has been no political system developed without relying on government in some form, which does not make a lot of peoples lives much worse than when there is a well-run government.


  • #40
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    weisses wrote: »
    For me it would be Brian Lenihan with his bank guarantee

    Sorry did you mean to post in the "Least capitalist action you can imagine" thread and post here by mistake ?


  • #41
    Reekwind
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    bluewolf wrote: »
    That's nothing to do with capitalism :confused:
    Except that it involves a CEO treating people like disposable commodities. Capitalism


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  • #42
    Clandestine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    I guess abolishing government and making everything provided for by private companies, Anarcho-capitalism essentially.


  • #43
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Clandestine wrote: »
    I guess abolishing government and making everything provided for by private companies, Anarcho-capitalism essentially.

    That would be a total free market (pie-in-the-sky) which means if I fancied myself as a dentist I could set up on a street corner like this lad. It would then be up to economically rational actors (lol, tulips) if they wanted to use my services or not.


  • #44
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    theres a high percentage of psychopaths working as CEO's, its been researched and documented


  • #45
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    Rabelais wrote: »
    Blowing up a cow with a rocket for 100 dollars at a Cambodian firing range.
    add another zero and apparently you can blow up something 2legged..


  • #46
    cantdecide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Doesn't surprise me at all. The difference between a Capitalist and a Socialist is this: Poor-but-hopeful Capitalist sees a guy gliding down the road in a big Merc. He thinks to himself, Someday I'll have a big Merc just like that! Poor-but-hopeful Socialist sees the same thing and thinks to himself, Someday I'll have that bastard out of that, and he'll be standing on the road with his thumb up his arse, just like me!

    I don't really agree with this. You just have to look at the Scandinavians are more socialist than us. Or maybe they are just more serious about bringing everyone to a decent minimum living standard. Society needs a certain standard to guarantee all citizens willing to participate.

    In my socialist paradise, the poor but hopeful individual can apply for a discounted travel card and take the bus, hopeful that one day he can have his Merc.


  • #47
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    I bought sony memory cards from Asia when the PSP first came out and sold them on buy&sell(print edition) for half the price the shops were selling them for, alot of the shops were sold out. I was selling them at twice the price I paid.

    I got screwed over by 200euro tho, package never arrived. stopped then


    the thing is I didnt need the money at the time, was doing it out of greed/for the buzz. I was a nasty capitalist :(

    in my defence I offered a chaper authentic alternative and fair price


  • #48
    Earthhorse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,728 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Everybody knows exactly what the OP means when he describes the behaviour in his post as capitalist. It's not technically correct but you know what he means.

    So why not share your stories of behaviour-like-that-in-the-OP-but-which-strictly-speaking-isn't-capitalist-per-se instead of carrying on a petty little spat over definitions?


  • #49
    tomwaterford
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    add another zero and apparently you can blow up something 2legged..



    Penquin????
    :rolleyes:


  • #50
    Wacker The Attacker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    Does **** with a 50 euro note taped to your mickey count?


  • #51
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Damn these electric sex pants.


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  • #52
    donegal__road
    Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    It's completely unfair that more successful people get more wealth.

    I mean, how dare they strive to achieve something in life!



    Being wealthy should not be equated with being successful.. you have made a lot of money, fair enough.... but are you as successful as the person who was the first to circumnavigate the world in a yacht?

    You could be a successful heart transplant surgeon, and not be wealthy.


  • #53
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    donegal__road wrote: »
    Being wealthy should not be equated with being successful.. you have made a lot of money, fair enough.... but are you as successful as the person who was the first to circumnavigate the world in a yacht?

    You could be a successful heart transplant surgeon, and not be wealthy.
    If you're doing heart transplants you're probably earning 500,000 a year, thats wealthy


  • #54
    Fox_In_Socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭Fox_In_Socks


    Ah yes, that remind me of a little anecdote from my Uni years.

    Back in my more youthful times, before I became the crusty old fuddy duddy that you see now, (quite a depart from the buck who used to row every morning in summer), I used to swing around with a couple of chums down in 'bridge, you see. Charlie Winslow, Berty "Marshmallows" Peacock and Freddie Hewerdine were part of the set, always up for a spell down at the racetrack or a quick brandy (or four!) at the Maidenshead before lecture-but that's an aside.

    Lucien Heversleigh, (now Lord Winterbottom as you well know), and I were leap frogging across the Quad one rather bracing spring morning, when he said to me,

    "Hello! there seems to be a bit of a rumpus over there by the Dean's chambers".

    Us being a pair of likely fellows, we sauntered over only to see a couple of Rough Types from the Fabian Society protesting about something or other. Couldn't understand the chaps though they were but two feet away from me. Beards, flatcaps, leaflets and scowls-the full accompaniment for the average Socialist. The Head Chap turning purple with rage as he launched into some tirade against The Injustices of the World, his foot long beard blowing out it's own rage beneath his mouth like net curtains before an open window.

    Anyway, I had just returned from some damned affair the night before which involved several sherries, lashings of wine (and little Bobbie Carter. What a fine piece of crumpet she was!) and somehow I had come away with a small bread roll and a pair of scissors in my waistcoat pocket. I threw Lucien my "rolling marble eye" and a wink and as quick as you could say "My spats have come lose!", I had whipped out the snippers and dashed the damn beard off the Head Chap and rammed the roll in his mouth mid sentence!

    Off we ran, quick as hares, round the shortcut through the Senior's Hall, past the cake shop and swung through Luciens study up the back stairs, where we braced the door with a heavy cabinet desk.

    "Oh Percy," Lucien puffed as me, cheeks red from the trot up the stairs" "you cracked cock! You've done it now...


    ...but what a Capital(ist) fellow you are!"


  • #55
    Ostrom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭Ostrom


    bluewolf wrote: »
    That's more like socialism

    Its not really. Almost 90% of the Danish workforce are union members. Their tax and collective bargaining system reduces wage inequality at one of the highest rates of the OECD, it has low unemployment, and a highly competitive economy. Economic competitiveness and high protections for workers are compatible - we have many examples of this the world over.


  • #56
    humbert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    KyussBishop wrote: »
    You actually said it:

    Equitable: "characterized by equity or fairness; just and right; fair; reasonable" - you're describing equitable i.e. fair distribution of wealth, as being more like socialism - thus capitalism is unfair/not-equitable in its distribution of wealth.
    O.E.D. Equitable: Treating everyone equally; fair.


  • #57
    jank
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    errlloyd wrote: »
    (We are a separately registered company, so they terminate their contract with our "Berlin" office and the company promises them a contract in Dublin, they move to Dublin, never get a contract and two weeks later get told they're fired, its pretty awful).

    Seriously, who moves to a different country without signing a contract in the first place?


  • #58
    jank
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭jank


    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    That would be a total free market (pie-in-the-sky) which means if I fancied myself as a dentist I could set up on a street corner like this lad. It would then be up to economically rational actors (lol, tulips) if they wanted to use my services or not.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild


  • #59
    Rabelais
    Site Banned Posts: 263 ✭✭Rabelais


    Rather overpowering fent of armchair economist about this discussion. Blowhards from the economic left and right soapboxing about their passion for some extremist ideology they believe makes sense. While the majority of them live in one of the finest social democracies in the world. It being an ideology based on fairness, pragmatism and cohesion. Real world stuff. With budgets and realities and all that.


  • #60
    Stainless_Steel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Stainless_Steel


    Ostrom wrote: »
    Its not really. Almost 90% of the Danish workforce are union members. Their tax and collective bargaining system reduces wage inequality at one of the highest rates of the OECD, it has low unemployment, and a highly competitive economy. Economic competitiveness and high protections for workers are compatible - we have many examples of this the world over.

    Yes but the Danes work hard.

    'High protections for workers' in Ireland = getting away with being lazy


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  • #61
    donegal__road
    Closed Accounts Posts: 953 ✭✭✭donegal__road


    kumate_champ07 wrote: »
    If you're doing heart transplants you're probably earning 500,000 a year, thats wealthy

    not if your living in Cuba... we are talking on a world-wide perspective here I take it?







    .


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