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UPC MMDS Price Hike

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭0ph0rce0


    Every UPC customers price will be getting increased in the next month. Dont worry about it. We will all be hit not just MMDS customers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    They've two legacy networks too.
    ExCablelink/NTL which uses DVB-C cable boxes and ex chorus MMDS used DVB-T boxes like Saorview only with encrypted MPEG2.

    So you can't generalise about features available. Different areas have different boxes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭campo


    SpaceTime wrote: »
    They've two legacy networks too.
    ExCablelink/NTL which uses DVB-C cable boxes and ex chorus MMDS used DVB-T boxes like Saorview only with encrypted MPEG2.

    So you can't generalise about features available. Different areas have different boxes.

    That's fair enough , I will retract what I said and say DVB-T areas are shockingly bad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    campo wrote: »
    That's fair enough , I will retract what I said and say DVB-T areas are shockingly bad

    The whole thing is totally obsolete.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭sin0city


    The Cush wrote: »
    Does your subscription fee include a charge for recording functionality?
    What is the sub with a standard non-PVR box?

    I'm not sure. If I recall correctly there's just a charge for the package.

    They called and said they were upgrading to PVR a few years ago. They wanted to send a technician and charge €50 but in the end they agreed to post it out and I did the plugging out and plugging in myself. I can't remember if the subscription increased.

    At the moment I pay €25 a month for the service and €5 a month for the second box upstairs. I'm billed every second month so it's €59 odd. I do have some sort of loyalty discount though so when I rang to see if I could downgrade to offset the price increase they said that because of the discount I have on the current package, it would actually work out costing me more on a lower package.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,367 ✭✭✭campo


    sin0city wrote: »
    I'm not sure. If I recall correctly there's just a charge for the package.

    They called and said they were upgrading to PVR a few years ago. They wanted to send a technician and charge €50 but in the end they agreed to post it out and I did the plugging out and plugging in myself. I can't remember if the subscription increased.

    At the moment I pay €25 a month for the service and €5 a month for the second box upstairs. I'm billed every second month so it's €59 odd. I do have some sort of loyalty discount though so when I rang to see if I could downgrade to offset the price increase they said that because of the discount I have on the current package, it would actually work out costing me more on a lower package.

    Ring again and ask to downgrade with a loyalty offer or else you cancel ( You will get discount on value pack )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    They'd be far better off just using the spectrum for something that would make more use of it like broadband services for rural areas.

    I don't think MMDS really serves a purpose anymore since viable satellite alternatives came along.

    UPC should also get their finger out and connect those few isolated cable networks that are taking their TV feed from MMDS to the proper cable network. If they've got fibre for broadband feeding them, they should really not have that much difficulty getting them connected to a proper head end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭sin0city


    campo wrote: »
    Ring again and ask to downgrade with a loyalty offer or else you cancel ( You will get discount on value pack )

    Thanks, might do but at this stage I think I may just jump ship.
    If it's on its way out anyway might as well.

    Only thing holding me back is the outlay for a dish and 2 saorview/freesat boxes. Should pay for itself within a year or so though I suppose.

    Or is it possible to just get a saorview box and pick up UK Freeview too without a dish because I'm on the east coast?
    Sorry, I know very little about how it works.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 7,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭pistolpetes11


    The Cush wrote: »
    I sent pistolpetes11 a PM to see what response he got from UPC.

    Asked me to send in Pictures which I done,

    They came out straight away , took down the aerial , sent one of there surveyors around who had a look at the damage done ,

    He had a man on site the next morning to fix up any damage and then some ,

    Couldn't fault them at all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,088 ✭✭✭SpaceTime


    sin0city wrote: »
    Thanks, might do but at this stage I think I may just jump ship.
    If it's on its way out anyway might as well.

    Only thing holding me back is the outlay for a dish and 2 saorview/freesat boxes. Should pay for itself within a year or so though I suppose.

    Or is it possible to just get a saorview box and pick up UK Freeview too without a dish because I'm on the east coast?
    Sorry, I know very little about how it works.

    There are some areas of the country that can pick up Freeview from the UK, but I don't think it travels quite as far as analogue used to. Or, at least the signal's not usable when it gets there. Analogue with a very weak signal wasn't necessarily unwatchable but weak digital signals tend to mean freezing / messed up pictures or no picture at all.

    Might be worth posting a question in the terrestrial forum on that one, they've a lot of info on what's available where.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭kooga


    iN august 2012 after UPC informed me that my MMDs sub was going up. i was paying 33.50 a month for mmds select plus 5 for multiroom. I gave in my notice.

    Do you know if you are an mds subscriber and ask you can get digital value for €17 a month. They don't advertise it but its available.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭sin0city


    kooga wrote: »
    iN august 2012 after UPC informed me that my MMDs sub was going up. i was paying 33.50 a month for mmds select plus 5 for multiroom. I gave in my notice.

    Do you know if you are an mds subscriber and ask you can get digital value for €17 a month. They don't advertise it but its available.

    Cheers. I'll check that out too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,461 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Ex NTL areas was the far smaller customer base and DVB-C, so the same PVR as Cable sort of works (no Broadband).

    Ex Chorus areas much poorer engineering and DVB-T, no PVR.

    Freesat + Saorview is better value unless less you want Sky Sport. If you really want Pay TV, then Sky is FAR better than MMDS. Also when you cancel MMDS you have nothing. You actually own the Sky supplied system so if you cancel there are limited amount of really free channels and a Freesat HD box or PVR can simply be plugged in for all the free Channels (except the Irish ones), even before you cancel.

    There has been no point to MMDS since about 2001 as unlike UPC cable there is no Broadband. Around 2005 to 2008 the idea of true Fixed Wireless Broadband in parallel was looked at (real broadband, not the rubbish that Mobile delivers), but a combination of Regulatory issues with Comreg and Cost made that impossible. The clock has been ticking for an MMDS closedown since Dec 2008.

    Unless UPC is going to be an LTE 4G Mobile operator in their own right and get other spectrum too, I think it's unlikely they will bid for the spectrum. Even if they did bid for it it would make no sense to use it for MMDS.

    MMDS is past the sell by date. The 12GHz MMDS system folded too, couldn't compete with Sky. Licence is available for ANYONE Nationwide or per region for 12GHz MMDS. MMDS is less than 1/3 of customer base that UPC took over from NTL & Chorus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭sin0city


    Thanks everyone.

    Between what kooga and campo recommended, I rang them again and in the end they agreed to give me the loyalty discount on the digital value.

    So €55 every two months after the price rise including PVR and the second point.

    Lost a few channels that I never really watched so overall happy with that for the next couple of years anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭kooga


    sin0city wrote: »
    Thanks everyone.

    Between what kooga and campo recommended, I rang them again and in the end they agreed to give me the loyalty discount on the digital value.

    So €55 every two months after the price rise including PVR and the second point.

    Lost a few channels that I never really watched so overall happy with that for the next couple of years anyway.

    thats great news.BTW how does the monthly bill equate/break down to €55 every two months?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭sin0city


    kooga wrote: »
    thats great news.BTW how does the monthly bill equate/break down to €55 every two months?

    Set up My UPC there so I could get a look at my bill.
    It was actually €57, not €59 every 2 months and the extra point was €6 a month, not €5.

    Description / Quantity / Dates / Amount
    MMDS Additional Digital Max / 1 / 7 Dec - 6 Feb 2014 / 12.00
    MMDS Digital Max / 1 / 7 Dec - 6 Feb 2014 / 44.99

    Total for Television service charges 57.00


    So it appears there is no extra charge for PVR.
    My new bill including the extra point and impending price rise of €6 a month will be €55 every 2 months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,914 ✭✭✭kooga


    sin0city wrote: »
    Set up My UPC there so I could get a look at my bill.
    It was actually €57, not €59 every 2 months and the extra point was €6 a month, not €5.

    Description / Quantity / Dates / Amount
    MMDS Additional Digital Max / 1 / 7 Dec - 6 Feb 2014 / 12.00
    MMDS Digital Max / 1 / 7 Dec - 6 Feb 2014 / 44.99

    Total for Television service charges 57.00

    So it appears there is no extra charge for PVR.
    My new bill including the extra point and impending price rise of €6 a month will be €55 every 2 months.

    Sin City if you are on digital max you should of lost no channels! and if you are getting digital max for 22.50 a month thats a great price! well done


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 698 ✭✭✭sin0city


    kooga wrote: »
    Sin City if you are on digital max you should of lost no channels! and if you are getting digital max for 22.50 a month thats a great price! well done

    No, that's my old bill. My new bill will be for digital value but it's the price after the increase so not too bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭7upfree


    The Cush wrote: »
    One of these?
    012.jpg

    This is the "big ugly aerial"???:confused: It looks tiny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,074 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    7upfree wrote: »
    This is the "big ugly aerial"???:confused: It looks tiny.

    The OP didn't say he had a "big ugly aerial". That small aerial is used in strong signal areas.
    sin0city wrote: »
    Again, I don't have any big ugly aerial on my roof. I have the little triangular receiver that is smaller and less obtrusive than the Sky satellite dish.


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