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Martin Scorsese’s The Wolf of Wall Street

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭Chareth Cutestory


    I agree with you that a film's runtime should be as long as it needs to be, provided its justifiable.I was more referring to recent films like...anything directed by Peter Jackson lately, The Lone Ranger, The Pirates of the Caribbean movies, the Transformers sequels - stories that aren't complex or interesting enough to withstand that kind of duration. Well-crafted epics I can get on board with. Whether you could describe Wolf of Wall Street as such I don't know, but the material certainly holds up to 180 minutes better than drawn out 'faux-epics' such as The Hobbit. Although the Desolation of Smaug performed very well at the box office at the weekend so what do I know!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,405 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    It's getting some pretty great reviews anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,585 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    It's nailed on to be interesting anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Anniebell


    Really looking forward to seeing it. Sounds like it's getting great reviews and the promo interviews should be coming soon, can't wait!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 865 ✭✭✭FlashD


    3 hours is a bonus.

    It is the Scorsese after all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Any sign of a release date here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,701 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    leakyboots wrote: »
    Any sign of a release date here?

    Mid-January.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭Alfred Borden


    Will it be too late for this film at the awards? think its going to be brilliant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Anniebell


    http://youtu.be/dBDsoW1ClJM

    Hollywood Reporter interview with LDiC, Marty, Jonah and Terence, the writer of the screenplay.

    What a table to be sat at!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭Warper


    Scorsese and DiCaprio = cant be too bad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭Chareth Cutestory


    leakyboots wrote: »
    Any sign of a release date here?

    Official release date for Ireland is January 17th.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    Very strange that its getting a January release in some countries. I always thought the start of the new year was where film companies dumped their duds.

    Regardless, am really looking forward to this


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,760 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    Very strange that its getting a January release in some countries. I always thought the start of the new year was where film companies dumped their duds.

    Regardless, am really looking forward to this

    Nah, thats more early spring time. January is oscar bait season I think.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,546 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Yeah January is when the films that received 'limited' releases in November / December in the States make it over here. They're released at the point across the pond in order to a) be eligible for Oscars and b) still be fresh in voter's minds. I'd generally consider Christmas / New Year's to be one of the more conservative release windows in Ireland & the UK, where distributors and cinemas tend to prefer big name films rather than awards fare. Also think they like having the films still on release or at least not long gone when the awards are announced, so they can enjoy the renewed commercial attention (the big award winners will usually get at least encore screenings). It does have the positive effect that January is usually ****ing terrific for film - we have new films from McQueen, Jonze, the Coens, Scorsese and more next month, most of which are faring well in the US-centric year end lists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Yeah January is when the films that received 'limited' releases in November / December in the States make it over here. They're released at the point across the pond in order to a) be eligible for Oscars and b) still be fresh in voter's minds. I'd generally consider Christmas / New Year's to be one of the more conservative release windows in Ireland & the UK, where distributors and cinemas tend to prefer big name films rather than awards fare. Also think they like having the films still on release or at least not long gone when the awards are announced, so they can enjoy the renewed commercial attention (the big award winners will usually get at least encore screenings). It does have the positive effect that January is usually ****ing terrific for film - we have new films from McQueen, Jonze, the Coens, Scorsese and more next month, most of which are faring well in the US-centric year end lists.

    Does the timing if releases for oscar season annoy anyone else? Do the panel of voters have such bad memory that they can't remember what they saw months ago?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,701 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Excellent review by Calum Marsh in LWL that makes me want to see this now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Crow92


    Over in new zealand where it got a stephens day release. Didn't read and reviews or even knew it's length which was surprising to see it was nearly 3 hours long, just saw the trailer and knew I'd want to see it.

    Not to big it up too much but for me, it was so good. The comedy is spot on for me at every beat,
    for example a 15 minute scene where he's on drugs and is reduced to crawling from a hotel to his car, driving it and back to his house
    . I haven't laughed like that in a while in a cinema and the characters are played very well in a crazy but believable way, inc. Jonah Hill. Leonardo di Caprio as usual is on the money in this role, he does play eccentric rich men very well.

    For me the line for the trailer

    "My name is Jordan Belfort, the year I turned 26, I made 49 million dollars, which really pissed me off because it was three shy of a million a week"

    Completely sums up the film and Jordan Belfort as a person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Huge fan of everything Scorsese has done and the film has the genius Terence Winter on writing duties. I'm going to put my trust in their good hands even if the trailer gave me a strange feeling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    It's nowhere near Scorsese's masterwork's of the 70's or 80's and early 90's for me. But it's certainly the best film he's done with DiCaprio in their partnership, so much better then the slightly overrated The Departed. Dicaprio gives his best performance to date in this (you wonder why he doesn't do any comedy work cause he's brilliant at it in this) and his chemistry between himself and Jonah Hill, who is actually pretty damn good in this, is the film's centre. Great cameos from Matthew McConaughey especially, Spike Jonze and Joanna Lumley. It's not going to win awards as their are better film's out there right now but Dicaprio/Scorsese partnership deliver their best film to date. 8/10 for me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭IvaBigWun


    :confused:

    It's a comedy?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,608 ✭✭✭Chareth Cutestory


    A lot of the performances and scenes are genuinely funny, in a blackly comedic sense. I agree that it probably is the best Scorsese-DiCaprio partnership that I have seen anyway, I wasn't a big fan of The Departed. It is long (as you would expect with Scorsese) but I don't think anyone could find themselves bored, that's not to say it couldn't have done with 20 or so minutes shaved off somewhere. Overall I thought it was really enjoyable and entertaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 185 ✭✭Anniebell


    How are you seeing this film already? Are you all posting from outside Ireland or preview screenings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Dman001


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    :confused:

    It's a comedy?
    Drama-Comedy really, Belfort gives a very frank depiction of his life in the book. Only started reading the book and is very enjoyable, and funny at times. Have great hopes for the film, given the team involved and current reviews.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,216 ✭✭✭Looper007


    IvaBigWun wrote: »
    :confused:

    It's a comedy?

    I think near the end
    the scenes of abuse towards his second wife, his first wife catching out his affair and the down fall in the third part
    were when the drama hit's in. But it's a comedy during the first two acts of the film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,600 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Ipso wrote: »
    Does the timing if releases for oscar season annoy anyone else? Do the panel of voters have such bad memory that they can't remember what they saw months ago?

    Yes ,its becoming a cynical joke at this stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    this is very good viewing
    shows how trading was done before it became mostly electronic

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A50ButV1IAs


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,546 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Was at a screening today, and thought it was a delight. I'll write more at a later stage, but it's a playful and cartoonish portrait of excess gone wild. It very much parallels with the 'real world', but in Scorsese's hands it becomes a deliriously cinematic exaggeration. A film full of unrepentant assholes and con-men, the main one of which frequently breaks the fourth wall to even speak down to the audience like we're just more scum to prey on (although, in DiCaprio's remarkably charismatic work in his motivational speeches to his employees, you'll be forgiven for briefly being lured in by his twisted, greedy ideology). Scorsese directs with an energy rarely seen in multiplexes, and while it might not quite be his most stylistically original film, himself and Schoonmaker ensure it's very rarely less than viscerally crafted; the sometimes restless, sometimes serene camera reflecting the moods of the drug-fuelled highs and lows of the characters, and as ever the music choices are delightful. It is also, most certainly, a comedy: the
    'cerebral palsy phase'
    sequence was an inspired burst of vivid, bizarre cinematic slapstick, DiCaprio almost chanelling Buster Keaton for a couple of scenes. McConaughey's fleeting but giddy appearance is also another win for a man whose career was once most notable for having the leaniest posters in cinema history. Overall, it's probably overstretched and repetitive, some sequences lingering longer than they strictly need to: but it's big, bold, lively and obscene tale that offers so many pleasures.

    As for those ongoing accusations that it's a celebration of excess that have forced DiCaprio and others to defend the film? Some critics have simply failed to revise the chapter on "representation does not equal endorsement" again (almost a year to the day after those ridiculous Zero Dark Thirty torture 'debates'). The ugly misogyny, homophobia, greed, arrogance and recklessness of these characters has even been amplified beyond the realms of reality (although, sadly, it's probably not far of the truth) to ensure there's no doubt we're actively encouraged to disapprove: there's a scene where they refer to dwarves as 'things', forchrissake :pac:. Yes, there's no real or omnipresent moral centre or corrupted innocent, the way you'd get in other films: but there is absolutely no condoning, and frankly anyone who thinks this is a feverish ode to the joys of wealth must have been watching a different film than I saw this morning. Martin's done good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    was it true that alot of older hollywood people left the official first screening in disgust? that makes me want to see it!


    when you look at a film like Scarface, its no comedy but Im sure people thought it glamorized crime,
    but it opens your eyes to the hypocrisy ie "you need people like me so you can point and say theres the bad guy"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Apparantly it now holds the illustrious record of containing the most profanity in any film (506 F-bombs in just under 3 hours, or 2.81 times every minute), beating Scorsese's Casino and Goodfellas into third and eighth place respectively.

    Can't wait to see this!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    Mr ultimate, how the heck did you get to see this today?! Can I see it early too?


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