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Is it irresponsible for families on the dole to have more than 2 kids

  • 18-12-2013 12:47AM
    #1
    Specialun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭


    I was listening to this debate on 4fm last night

    I agree that families on the dole should be more responsible and not just have large families when they are dependent on the state to live

    Accidents happen but for cases where families are on benefit for a long period and continue to have kids then i think they should be looked at

    What do you think AH?

    ****grabs popcorn ****

    Is it irresponsible for families on benefit to have more than 2kids 58 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    100% 58 votes


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  • #2
    Sir Arthur Daley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    That would be a ecumenical matter.


  • #3
    coolhull
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,731 ✭✭✭✭coolhull


    This will end well


  • #4
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Kill everyone.


  • #5
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,610 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Lay off the popcorn.


  • #6
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Shouldn't be having kids you can't afford. Simple as.


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  • #7
    Gatling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I know the UK want to cap child benefits at 2 children ,
    You'll get if for your first 2 but after that you get nothing which is right ,
    One thing having a safety net another thing supporting lifestyles based off 5+ kids
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  • #8
    anncoates
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Specialun wrote: »
    I was listening to this debate on 4fm last night

    By debate, you presumably mean a pack of jabbering baboons being goaded to embarrass themselves on air by some identikit simpering South Dublin wannabe?


  • #9
    Reekwind
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    How strange. All families with children are eligible for child allowance, whether on the dole or not


  • #10
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    No people should have as many kids as they want.

    Every cent thats paid in child benefit is a cent that isnt going to the bondholders


  • #11
    humbert
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    If the world were a logical place people wouldn't have more kids than they could support. So for people on welfare that would be none.


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  • #12
    Temptamperu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    Dont say anything about the rampent corruption from those in charge but f**k the poor right?


  • #13
    TeddyTedson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Gatling wrote: »
    I know the UK want to cap child benefits at 2 children ,
    You'll get if for your first 2 but after that you get nothing which is right ,
    One thing having a safety net another thing supporting lifestyles based off 5+ kids

    But you can't let the children be neglected because of the parents stupidity.
    Maybe have unemployed men castrated if they breed more than one child.


  • #14
    Stained Class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    I work. Wifey works too.

    Not Mickey Mouse jobs.

    We have 2 kids & can just about afford it.

    Still, it's grand the way that some people who don't bother working or paying Taxes can breed like Rabbits.

    Great country really.


  • #15
    Hilly Bill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,055 ✭✭✭Hilly Bill


    If you can't afford to feed then don't breed.


  • #16
    Specialun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Temptamperu wrote: »
    Dont say anything about the rampent corruption from those in charge but f**k the poor right?


    How is it fooking the poor

    Surely you shouldnt look to have what you cant afford no?


  • #17
    Stained Class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Reekwind wrote: »
    How strange. All families with children are eligible for child allowance, whether on the dole or not

    And rent allowance & medical cards & all the rest..............


  • #18
    Reekwind
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭Reekwind


    Stained Class wrote: »
    We have 2 kids & can just about afford it.

    Still, it's grand the way that some people who don't bother working or paying Taxes can breed like Rabbits
    And what child benefits are they getting that you're not?

    EDIT:
    And rent allowance & medical cards & all the rest..............
    Which they have regardless of the number of children they have. So what you're essentially saying that these people who are in a worse financial situation than you are having the gall to procreate. The bastards


  • #19
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    TeddyTedson wrote: »
    But you can't let the children be neglected because of the parents stupidity.
    Maybe have unemployed men castrated if they breed more than one child.

    hmmm...not a bad idea....

    Mandatory chemical sterilisation from age 15. If you haven't had a job by age 25 the whole thing comes off.

    I think you're onto something Teddy


  • #20
    Stained Class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Reekwind wrote: »
    And what child benefits are they getting that you're not?

    Read above.


  • #21
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    wexie wrote: »
    hmmm...not a bad idea....

    Mandatory chemical sterilisation from age 15. If you haven't had a job by age 25 the whole thing comes off.

    I think you're onto something Teddy

    We need to invent a tablet to make all humans infertile until you come to a point and want kids so you take another pill to reverse it.

    My idea. Patent pending


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  • #22
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    Shouldn't be having kids you can't afford. Simple as.
    It really isn't. Accidents can happen, and having an abortion, particularly when it requires travelling to another country, isn't something everyone wishes to go through.

    No it isn't good for people to have a lot of children they can't afford, but there are never any suggestions as to how this can be curbed.

    Cut off benefits - the children (whose fault it isn't) are deprived.
    And forced sterilisation - this isn't Saudi Arabia and the reality of such a system would be forcing people into a hospital and restraining them, then carrying out an invasive procedure; it's an idea that's often suggested but not thought through.


  • #23
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    It really isn't. Accidents can happen, and having an abortion, particularly when it requires travelling to another country, isn't something everyone wishes to go through.

    True, but if that happens 5 times you're seriously taking the piss


  • #24
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    _Redzer_ wrote: »
    We need to invent a tablet to make all humans infertile until you come to a point and want kids so you take another pill to reverse it.

    My idea. Patent pending

    If you could also find some incentive for people to actually take it.....

    I'll give you a good idea to help : invent something that makes semen taste of chocolate ;)


  • #25
    jobeenfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,486 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    It really is none of my business how many children other people have, be they rich, poor or somewhere in the middle.


  • #26
    Sh1tbag OToole
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Stained Class wrote: »
    I work. Wifey works too.

    Not Mickey Mouse jobs.

    We have 2 kids & can just about afford it.

    Still, it's grand the way that some people who don't bother working or paying Taxes can breed like Rabbits.

    Great country really.

    The whole system is pretty much set up to make sure working people with wife and kids will always be just scraping by. I dont envy you but at the same time I dontthink there should be a cap on the number of kids you can have just because you're on the dole. Not everyone on the dole is a waster


  • #27
    Specialun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    It really isn't. Accidents can happen, and having an abortion, particularly when it requires travelling to another country, isn't something everyone wishes to go through.


    Accidents can happen for 1 or maybe 2 children...but for 3,4 or. 5 kids it would mean their as accident prone as mr bean


  • #28
    Stained Class
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭Stained Class


    Reekwind wrote: »
    And what child benefits are they getting that you're not?

    EDIT:
    Which they have regardless of the number of children they have. So what you're essentially saying that these people who are in a worse financial situation than you are having the gall to procreate. The bastards

    Just Don't!


  • #29
    Coll1e
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭Coll1e


    There are many reasons why somebody would choose to have children or not. Its not just an economic decision. Also most unemployed people are not scroungers as many here seem to think and would hope to be back in employment asap.


  • #30
    Specialun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    jobeenfitz wrote: »
    It really is none of my business how many children other people have, be they rich, poor or somewhere in the middle.


    How is it none of your business when their on benefit to which your tax pays


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  • #31
    _Redzer_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,056 ✭✭✭_Redzer_


    wexie wrote: »
    If you could also find some incentive for people to actually take it.....

    I'll give you a good idea to help : invent something that makes semen taste of chocolate ;)

    Nah, my tablet is once off, because seriously who wants to be fertile when their in their teens and early twenties? People will be trampling over each other to get them.

    I'll be minted


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