Another fine mess you've gotten us OUTA Enda!

marzic · 15-12-2013 01:46PM #1

An Taoiseach is going to give a 'Look at the State of Us' address tonight. Its probably a bit late but here's his email address for suggestions

taoiseach@taoiseach.gov.ie

heres what I said

Dear Taoiseach
Its probably somewhat late to add to your speech for this evening but what I'd hope you'd do is the following:
1. instead of thanking the people who have had to lose their jobs or their homes / leave the country/ struggle to make ends meet as a result of austerity policies - you'd say sorry
2. you'd take a leaf from the forgotten hero of Mayo - Michael Davitt, who fought to empower the oppressed and break the stranglehold of the powerful, but who was ultimately shafted by the most powerful politian in the country at the time (ironic isn't it?)
3. promise(and actually keep it) to work for the people not for the powerful

Regards

catallus · 15-12-2013 01:52PM

The people who have had to lose their jobs or their homes / leave the country/ struggle to make ends meet are more the victims of private moneylenders (markets) and investors who are hoarding capital and preventing the creation of new jobs. I really don't see how a politician can be blamed for that.

Me? · 15-12-2013 01:54PM

catallus wrote: »

The people who have had to lose their jobs or their homes / leave the country/ struggle to make ends meet are more the victims of private moneylenders (markets) and investors who are hoarding capital and preventing the creation of new jobs. I really don't see how a politician can be blamed for that.

Really?

marzic · 15-12-2013 01:55PM

catallus wrote: »

The people who have had to lose their jobs or their homes / leave the country/ struggle to make ends meet are more the victims of private moneylenders (markets) and investors who are hoarding capital and preventing the creation of new jobs. I really don't see how a politician can be blamed for that.

Enda, thanks for getting back so quickly, I'll take that as a no then - Have a great Christmas anyway

overshoot · 15-12-2013 01:57PM

"another fine mess"? i thought we were exiting the bailout the previous government put us in
although point 1 would be nice

catallus · 15-12-2013 01:57PM

Me? wrote: »

Really?

Yes, really.

It is funny, when everything is going great and everyone has money in their pocket and jobs and opportunity the govt is told to mind their own business, and then when things go tits up it isn't the fault of capitalist machine but that of the politicians.

It is as if people think that elected representatives have any power at all over the people who own the means of production. They don't.

ZETOR_IS_BETTER · 15-12-2013 01:58PM

marzic wrote: »

An Taoiseach is going to give a 'Look at the State of Us' address tonight. Its probably a bit late but here's his email address for suggestions

taoiseach@taoiseach.gov.ie

heres what I said
1. instead of thanking the people who have had to loose their jobs or their homes / leave the country/ struggle to make ends meet as a result of austerity policies - you'd say sorry

Regards[/I]

I hope you forward a copy onto fianna fail who led us and signed us up to this....

The One Who Knocks · 15-12-2013 01:59PM

Bah.. politics

Mint Aero · 15-12-2013 01:59PM

Thread title is a nice play on words OP.

professore · 15-12-2013 02:00PM

Surely the previous FF/Greens government are the ones to blame for getting us into this mess? Lack of regulation, tax breaks for property in a boom - what the hell was that about?

I'm not a fan of any political party or from Mayo but blaming Enda Kenny personally is not fair.

Blame him for things he's doing or not doing now - but all the stuff in your post was caused by the previous government.

diomed · 15-12-2013 02:02PM

OP
The music has stopped. We have to pay for the fun.

suicide_circus · 15-12-2013 02:05PM

Please tell me you corrected the spelling and grammar mistakes in that piece before you sent it to our divine and nobel leader!

marzic · 15-12-2013 02:08PM

catallus wrote: »

Yes, really.

It is funny, when everything is going great and everyone has money in their pocket and jobs and opportunity the govt is told to mind their own business, and then when things go tits up it isn't the fault of capitalist machine but that of the politicians.

It is as if people think that elected representatives have any power at all over the people who own the means of production. They don't.

The state thru its gov politicians set the climate for the market to flourish and the citizens fund it. Then when the market crashes the state bales it out and the citizens fund that too, but in order to fund the bale out the citizenz must suffer - I'd shout at a hedge fund but he doesnt knock on my door making promises he wont keep.

jank · 15-12-2013 02:09PM

I see AH is as deluded as ever.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 15-12-2013 02:11PM

As someone with no political bias or of any political persusion , I have to say I think the current government are to be applauded for what they gave achieved so quickly. Yes there is much still to do but they have brought us a long way towards recovery. I for one will be looking at the government parties more favourably come the next elections. It has been tough but it was always going to be, and had to be, tough but that was the mess we were in. Well done, I say!
Here's hoping the trend lasts.

marzic · 15-12-2013 02:12PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Please tell me you corrected the spelling and grammar mistakes in that piece before you sent it to our divine and nobel leader!

you spelled noble wrong, but was that just to make me feel better? I may have spelled politician wrong but the rest is ok i'd say - but do elaborate

Me? · 15-12-2013 02:13PM

It will happen again.

catallus · 15-12-2013 02:13PM

marzic wrote: »

The state thru its gov politicians set the climate for the market to flourish and the citizens fund it. Then when the market crashes the state bales it out and the citizens fund that too, but in order to fund the bale out the citizenz must suffer - I'd shout at a hedge fund but he doesnt knock on my door making promises he wont keep.

Well then maybe you should write a letter to Fianna Fail and the treacherous Brian Lenihan. They really really really shouldn't have done what they did, and they did it purposefully. They really sold this country down the river to the money-owners. But that was a separate thing altogether from the loss of jobs and opportunity; that was down to the money-owners themselves withdrawing their capital. We can't conflate these issues if there is any hope of untangling the ins and outs of what happened.

D1stant · 15-12-2013 02:14PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Please tell me you corrected the spelling and grammar mistakes in that piece before you sent it to our divine and nobel leader!

He probably wont notice as he's preoccupied today mourning Nadiba

Sherfin · 15-12-2013 02:16PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

Please tell me you corrected the spelling and grammar mistakes in that piece before you sent it to our divine and nobel leader!

What did he win it for ??

:D

The Backwards Man · 15-12-2013 02:22PM

You know what this place is becoming more and more like?

Speakers Corner in Hyde Park.

garv123 · 15-12-2013 02:22PM

marzic wrote: »

you spelled noble wrong, but was that just to make me feel better? I may have spelled politician wrong but the rest is ok i'd say - but do elaborate

Since you asked, the first thing that jumped out:
loose..lose

suicide_circus · 15-12-2013 02:24PM

marzic wrote: »

you spelled noble wrong, but was that just to make me feel better? I may have spelled politician wrong but the rest is ok i'd say - but do elaborate

Yes that was to make you feel better

gcgirl · 15-12-2013 02:34PM

Thank Britney my TV signal has gone

Duckworth_Luas · 15-12-2013 02:51PM

D1stant wrote: »

He probably wont notice as he's preoccupied today mourning Nadiba

Naturally as Melsom Namdela was a significant international politician!

marzic · 15-12-2013 02:53PM

ok spellings aside, and political allegiances aside, and everything else aside. what would you ask the taoiseach to include in his speech? a high five to the country, and no more boom(-boom) and bust scenarios? cmon everybody its christmas

Highflyer13 · 15-12-2013 02:56PM

marzic wrote: »

An Taoiseach is going to give a 'Look at the State of Us' address tonight. Its probably a bit late but here's his email address for suggestions

taoiseach@taoiseach.gov.ie

heres what I said

Dear Taoiseach
Its probably somewhat late to add to your speech for this evening but what I'd hope you'd do is the following:
1. instead of thanking the people who have had to loose their jobs or their homes / leave the country/ struggle to make ends meet as a result of austerity policies - you'd say sorry
2. you'd take a leaf from the forgotten hero of Mayo - Michael Davitt, who fought to empower the oppressed and break the stranglehold of the powerful, but who was ultimately shafted by the most powerful politian in the country at the time (ironic isn't it?)
3. promise(and actually keep it) to work for the people not for the powerful

Regards

Not Endas fault. He inherited one hell of a mess of the previous Government and he is now doing a fine job with the hand he was dealt. My biggest fear is that many are going to go back and vote Fianna Fail as a result of the current Governments policies but I would like to think they dont have short memories.

catallus · 15-12-2013 02:58PM

marzic wrote: »

ok spellings aside, and political allegiances aside, and everything else aside. what would you ask the taoiseach to include in his speech? a high five to the country, and no more boom(-boom) and bust scenarios? cmon everybody its christmas

Christmas is 10 days away. Seriously.

No more boom-bust scenarios? Are you a communist, marzic?

Splat Strawberry Jam · 15-12-2013 03:04PM

If you're going to send an email with that sort of tone to any person i would suggest getting basic grammar correct. It really looses its effect.

ruthloss · 15-12-2013 03:06PM

Highflyer13 wrote: »

Not Endas fault. He inherited one hell of a mess of the previous Government.

This is very true, but trotting it out every time they open their mouths is getting very old very fast.

Splat Strawberry Jam · 15-12-2013 03:08PM

marzic wrote: »

ok spellings aside, and political allegiances aside, and everything else aside. what would you ask the taoiseach to include in his speech? a high five to the country, and no more boom(-boom) and bust scenarios? cmon everybody its christmas

If you're blaming Enda Kenny for the country's present predicament then you clearly dont understand what is actually going on and should be treated accordingly. I dont think anyone here or who has read your post really has the time to explain how the world works to you on a Sunday afternoon. Maybe you thought you were being clever and cutting in your email to Enda Kenny. Sadly, you werent and appear like quite a foolish person. Sorry

Another fine mess you've gotten us OUTA Enda!

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