Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v3.0 (07/04/13 - 08/07/14)

hotmail.com · 11-12-2013 12:27AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Maeve Lewis talking about religious people going to the courts, but what if Fr Reynolds hadn't?
The accuser RTE, were prepared to go all the way with him to defend the lies.

Yes there are abusers who do this to the victims, but it has been shown on more than one occasion to work both ways.

Jesus was given a chance to save himself.

What?

take everything · 11-12-2013 12:27AM

Actually what is Jesus dying on the cross about, anyone know?
Never really got that.
:pac:

hotmail.com · 11-12-2013 12:28AM

take everything wrote: »

Actually what is Jesus dying on the cross about, anyone know?
Never really got that.
:pac:

It's still a mystery to me. I especially never understood it when I was 6 or 7.

hotmail.com · 11-12-2013 12:31AM

You'd have to wonder whether the bishops or the priests around the country give a toss about these reports.

take everything · 11-12-2013 12:31AM

Incredible to think these people had such a hold on a country up to recently.
Fair enough they did some good but it's an incredible comment on what kind of country we were/are to be in thrall to such people.
Yet again, all i can ever think to myself is "stupid fcuking country".

Busted Flat. · 11-12-2013 12:32AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

It's still a mystery to me. I especially never understood it when I was 6 or 7.

Oh god Ted did you see that post.

take everything · 11-12-2013 12:33AM

Ah Vinny stop humouring this one.

hotmail.com · 11-12-2013 12:33AM

She's been studying theology for 40 years. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

RobertKK · 11-12-2013 12:34AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

What?

Maeve Lewis was saying about the courts being used by the religious, she failed to mention that wrongdoers on both sides have tried to defend the indefensible, whether than is someone who has claimed to be religious but is really just a sex offender and taking the victim(s) to court making them out to be liars.
Then we had cases where priests have been falsely accused - one of these cases on RTE who refused to acknowledge their wrongdoing until it was found the child was not his from a supposed rape, and the woman who they said the priest had abused, said that priest never abused her.
Another case a priest was taken to court and he pleaded his innocence - it ended up with the accuser going to prison because the priestr in question had never abused him.
Maeve lewis was complaining about the accused using the courts but in some cases it was justified, she gave a one sided argument.

Hitchens · 11-12-2013 12:34AM

she has the head of a nun alright

hotmail.com · 11-12-2013 12:36AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Maeve Lewis was saying about the courts being used by the religious, she failed to mention that wrongdoers on both sides have tried to defend the indefensible, whether than is someone who has claimed to be religious but is really just a sex offender and taking the victim(s) to court making them out to be liars.
Then we had cases where priests have been falsely accused - one of these cases on RTE who refused to acknowledge their wrongdoing until it was found the child was not his from a supposed rape, and the woman who they said the priest had abused, said that priest never abused her.
Another case a priest was taken to court and he pleaded his innocence - it ended up with the accuser going to prison because the priestr in question had never abused him.
Maeve lewis was complaining about the accused using the courts but in some cases it was justified, she gave a one sided argument.

You aren't comparing like with like. Libelous comments cannot be compared with the sexual abuse of children.

vicwatson · 11-12-2013 12:36AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Maeve Lewis was saying about the courts being used by the religious, she failed to mention that wrongdoers on both sides have tried to defend the indefensible, whether than is someone who has claimed to be religious but is really just a sex offender and taking the victim(s) to court making them out to be liars.
Then we had cases where priests have been falsely accused - one of these cases on RTE who refused to acknowledge their wrongdoing until it was found the child was not his from a supposed rape, and the woman who they said the priest had abused, said that priest never abused her.
Another case a priest was taken to court and he pleaded his innocence - it ended up with the accuser going to prison because the priestr in question had never abused him.
Maeve lewis was complaining about the accused using the courts but in some cases it was justified, she gave a one sided argument.

This isn't about wrongly accused priests. Ahem.

vicwatson · 11-12-2013 12:36AM

Hitchens wrote: »

she has the head of a nun alright

Mary Hanafin's twin

Busted Flat. · 11-12-2013 12:37AM

hotmail.com wrote: »

She's been studying theology for 40 years. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Slow learner.

take everything · 11-12-2013 12:39AM

This show needs more Keaveney.

Lapin · 11-12-2013 12:39AM

What was that hotel in Galway ?

hotmail.com · 11-12-2013 12:39AM

Busted Flat. wrote: »

Slow learner.

All that studying and no evidence found to prove there is a god.

RobertKK · 11-12-2013 12:39AM

take everything wrote: »

Actually what is Jesus dying on the cross about, anyone know?
Never really got that.
:pac:

Jesuis the new Adam, Mary the new Eve.

Adam was punished with death coming into the world, Jesus had to die so he could defeat death by the resurrection.

It was in the old testament how Jesus would die, just like how it was in the old testament how the Jews would become hated and would be hunted down before the nation of Israel would come back into existence.

hotmail.com · 11-12-2013 12:40AM

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

You're the one who got personal. You must suffer from short-term memory loss or something.

FYI, I meant one of the people that don't like Garda criticism, not an actual Garda.

Lapin · 11-12-2013 12:41AM

take everything wrote: »

This show needs more Keaveney.

Might as well get as much of that turncoat slimeball as you can now, because its back to the old day job for the traitor after the next election. :mad:

take everything · 11-12-2013 12:42AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Jesuis the new Adam, Mary the new Eve.

Adam was punished with death coming into the world, Jesus had to die so he could defeat death by the resurrection.

It was in the old testament how Jesus would die, just like how it was in the old testament how the Jews would become hated and would be hunted down before the nation of Israel would come back into existence.

OK.
So rubbish really.

Edit: actually what really pisses me off is how betrayed and disillusioned decent religious people (like my mother) must feel because of such behaviour.

Busted Flat. · 11-12-2013 12:43AM

RobertKK wrote: »

Jesuis the new Adam, Mary the new Eve.

Adam was punished with death coming into the world, Jesus had to die so he could defeat death by the resurrection.

It was in the old testament how Jesus would die, just like how it was in the old testament how the Jews would become hated and would be hunted down before the nation of Israel would come back into existence.

You are after listening to much to yer wan that studied for 40 years and 40 nights.

take everything · 11-12-2013 12:44AM

Lapin wrote: »

Might as well get as much of that turncoat slimeball as you can now, because its back to the old day job for the traitor after the next election. :mad:

I just want to see Vinny lay into him.
He's been on a few times before IIRC.
Maybe he's recovering after Hook and Cooper.

Hitchens · 11-12-2013 12:44AM

Lapin wrote: »

Might as well get as much of that turncoat slimeball as you can now, because its back to the old day job for the traitor after the next election. :mad:

Rabbitte was quoted as saying that "Keavney would join Hezzbollah if he thought it would further his career" (or words to that effect) :pac:

Harry Angstrom · 11-12-2013 12:44AM

What's happened to the newspaper preview?

RobertKK · 11-12-2013 12:45AM

vicwatson wrote: »

This isn't about wrongly accused priests. Ahem.

But when we watched prime time investigates, how many people who watched that believed Fr Reynolds was innocent?
I didn't, thought he was guilty and the accusers had done proper research, rather than using license fee money to do a program based on their prejudices in the RTE Prime Time Investigates team.

Lapin · 11-12-2013 12:47AM

I'd rather admit to being a salt of the earth dyed in blue wool Jackeen with a horrible accent than ever have the misfortune of coming from a place like Mayo.

grey_so_what · 11-12-2013 12:48AM

Hitchens wrote: »

Rabbitte was quoted as saying that "Keavney would join Hezzbollah if he thought it would further his career" (or words to that effect) :pac:

Always noted for his smart remarks, not always noted for actually delivering promises made..........

Hitchens · 11-12-2013 12:49AM

Lapin wrote: »

I'd rather admit to being a salt of the earth dyed in blue wool Jackeen with a horrible accent than ever have the misfortune of coming from a place like Mayo.

imagine never knowing the bliss of a steaming bowl of coddle? :pac:

vicwatson · 11-12-2013 12:49AM

RobertKK wrote: »

But when we watched prime time investigates, how many people who watched that believed Fr Reynolds was innocent?
I didn't, thought he was guilty and the accusers had done proper research, rather than using license fee money to do a program based on their prejudices in the RTE Prime Time Investigates team.

The piece was still not about wrongly accused priests

Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v3.0 (07/04/13 - 08/07/14)

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