What beer are we drinking this week ?

BaZmO* · 06-12-2013 11:12PM

Halloween Jack wrote: »

They were held up in customs, according to the boys in drinkstore. They only actually landed in their warehouse tonight.

Yeah, there's 3 up on their website now.

Halloween Jack · 06-12-2013 11:12PM

Heroditas wrote: »

Oh good Jesus, I'd better ring them and get some more details and pop in!

Under-carbonated? That's an understatement. Just poured mine and had two mouthfuls and it's completely dead. Nice though, reminds me a lot of St. Austell Tribute with a slight taste of apples from it. If it had a bit more carbonation, it would be far better IMO.

I have only had Jaipur in bottles but think that Foam and Fury on draught utterly kicks bottled Jaipur's ass. Dare I say it but I think Jaipur is a bit disappointing.

Had Jaipur on cask, keg and bottle. Consistently excellent imo.

Foam and the fury is delicious, but not quite there.

jsa112 · 06-12-2013 11:29PM

Ipso, I thought the Racer 5 was amazing. Had the Hop Rod too, not as nice but still quite good. Am going to get their red ale next time I'm beer shopping. Racer 5 was probably the best IPA I've had actually. Maybe it being 7% or 75 ibu is an unfair comparison to other IPAs.

Ipso · 07-12-2013 12:49AM

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

The racer 5? It's a decent IPA. Would definitely buy it again hope it becomes a regular over here. More the merrier.

Yeah, meant the racer 5. I relly like it, only had it a couple times after overlooking it for so long.
I think it has a distinctive taste. Would piney be the best description of it?

Ipso · 07-12-2013 12:50AM

jsa112 wrote: »

Ipso, I thought the Racer 5 was amazing. Had the Hop Rod too, not as nice but still quite good. Am going to get their red ale next time I'm beer shopping. Racer 5 was probably the best IPA I've had actually. Maybe it being 7% or 75 ibu is an unfair comparison to other IPAs.

Are you in California by any chance (seeing you have access to a range of stuff)?

jsa112 · 07-12-2013 10:28AM

No Dublin, I usually visit Redmonds/Baggot Street, occasionally the former gets in beers that the others don't seem to. Think I'll definitely get Racer 5 again actually.

Seaneh · 07-12-2013 10:39AM

€4.20 for 355ml bottles of Stone Pale Ale in drinkstore.

Thanks, but no thanks, it's good beer but it's not that good.

Grayditch · 07-12-2013 10:45AM

I'll probably try one of each.

ciaran76 · 07-12-2013 10:59AM

The tropical flavours in F&F reminded me of the similar tropical flavours in Kipling/ Jaipur.

The rest of the flavours of F&F was more American hoppy styled beer.

Seaneh · 07-12-2013 11:24AM

I get wht you're saying ciaran, it's got those same pineapple/mango/lychee type flavours that Kipling has that most IPA's don't.

It's the kiwi hops I reckons, they seen to be more "tropical" tasting than the American hops (which F&F also has).

So it is kind of Kipling meets American DIPA in style.

themandan6611 · 07-12-2013 12:49PM

have a racer for later, interesting to see how it compares to my fav ipa (o'dells ipa), let the battle begin

snowblind · 07-12-2013 01:11PM

Seaneh wrote: »

Considering it came from fecking California, it's not exactly old either, it's less than 3 months old now, it's as fresh as you're going to get it in Ireland anyway.

The fact is that hops have started to fade long into the two months. Don't get me wrong, I'll be buying a few of these and I'll likely enjoy them a lot, but to be fair to the beer this is something you have to keep in mind, it will not be the same as it would be fresh.

Founders All Day arrived the same month it was bottled. Takes a few hours more to fly them in from California than Michigan. Certainly not as fresh as it could be.

Seaneh · 07-12-2013 01:45PM

snowblind wrote: »

The fact is that hops have started to fade long into the two months. Don't get me wrong, I'll be buying a few of these and I'll likely enjoy them a lot, but to be fair to the beer this is something you have to keep in mind, it will not be the same as it would be fresh.

Founders All Day arrived the same month it was bottled. Takes a few hours more to fly them in from California than Michigan. Certainly not as fresh as it could be.

I think you are seriously over estimating how quickly hop acids degrade and to what extent.

Heroditas · 07-12-2013 02:29PM

Seaneh wrote: »

€4.20 for 355ml bottles of Stone Pale Ale in drinkstore.

Thanks, but no thanks, it's good beer but it's not that good.

Was thinking the same thing

Seaneh · 07-12-2013 02:38PM

Heroditas wrote: »

Was thinking the same thing

If it was a 500ml bottle it would be understandable, but when a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is €2.80, and in my opinion a better beer anyway, there is no way I'm going to spent an extra €1.40 for a stone pale ale.

I'll probably pick up on of each just to revisit them*, but I doubt I'll be buying them often.

*haven't tied the oaked arrogant bastard yet, so that will be new at least.

BaZmO* · 07-12-2013 02:50PM

Seaneh wrote: »

If it was a 500ml bottle it would be understandable, but when a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is €2.80, and in my opinion a better beer anyway, there is no way I'm going to spent an extra €1.40 for a stone pale ale.

I'll probably pick up on of each just to revisit them*, but I doubt I'll be buying them often.

*haven't tied the oaked arrogant bastard yet, so that will be new at least.

Not really fair to comparing the 2 breweries on price. SN is over 4 times the size of Stone and I'd imagine that they're properly set up for the export market.

irish_goat · 07-12-2013 02:51PM

Had the Stone Session IPA on cask last night in Spoons. Was alright just, not worth the effort of someone flying over to brew it.

Going to a comedy gig tonight in a place that has no craft, might crack open a Hoptimum and null my tastebuds.

Seaneh · 07-12-2013 03:23PM

BaZmO* wrote: »

Not really fair to comparing the 2 breweries on price. SN is over 4 times the size of Stone and I'd imagine that they're properly set up for the export market.

They cost about the same to buy in the US (you might actually find stone's cheaper in some places) and I'd still pick Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale over Stone's, because it's not just cheaper, it's a better beer.

BaZmO* · 07-12-2013 03:35PM

Seaneh wrote: »

They cost about the same to buy in the US (you might actually find stone's cheaper in some places) and I'd still pick Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale over Stone's, because it's not just cheaper, it's a better beer.

That's because Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale is the best beer in the world!

Seaneh · 07-12-2013 04:22PM

BaZmO* wrote: »

That's because Sierra Nevada's Pale Ale is the best beer in the world!

Bestest best evar!

Ah, it's good stuff alright.

drumswan · 07-12-2013 05:22PM

In my day students drank warm flagons of cheap cider and were happy about it

You'll be complaining your selection of Beluga caviar is over-priced next Seaneh, hah

Brewed a Pale Ale today and had no Pale Ale on hand to drink, criminal. Popped out for a selection, Dales, SN, Sly Fox & a cheeky 4 quid bottle of Racer 5.

Heroditas · 07-12-2013 05:28PM

Got a free sample of McGargle's Granny Mary's Red Ale this afternoon. Looking forward to trying out what's a very new drink from a brand new local brewery.

snowblind · 07-12-2013 05:33PM

Seaneh wrote: »

I think you are seriously over estimating how quickly hop acids degrade and to what extent.

Tom Nielsen, Sierra Nevada’s senior research analyst focused on hop degradation, says that their research has shown that after about two and a half to three months, hop aroma in a packaged beer, derived mainly from beta acids in the hop flower, has already started to diminish significantly. It’s a sentiment backed by Patrick Langlois at Great Divide in Denver, brewers of notable hoppy beers including their Fresh Hop Pale Ale, Titan IPA, and Hercules Double IPA. “Hops tend to dissipate in three to four months, which is why that is the recommended shelf life for most of our beers.

& that is a pretty conservative estimate compared to most others I've seen. It's entirely possible these guys are underestimating the effect of time, seeing as these breweries export their beers far around the world and most of the time their beers would be >2 months old on the shelves.

I was told in Drinkstore that the Stone beers coming in have been bottled only a couple weeks ago. Not a massive fan of Stone Pale (would rather have Ruination & Sublimely Self Righteous) but if it's that fresh, it might just be worth it.

blueshed · 07-12-2013 05:55PM

Heroditas wrote: »

Got a free sample of McGargle's Granny Mary's Red Ale this afternoon. Looking forward to trying out what's a very new drink from a brand new local brewery.

you in Lucan or Cheshire

, beer is brewed here http://www.thomashardybrewery.co.uk/content/welcome-thomas-hardy-brewing-packaging

and not great by all accounts. did you get in Kennys or the County bar.

Heroditas · 07-12-2013 05:59PM

blueshed wrote: »

you in Lucan or Cheshire , beer is brewed here http://www.thomashardybrewery.co.uk/content/welcome-thomas-hardy-brewing-packaging

and not great by all accounts. did you get in Kennys or the County bar.

Got it in Kenny's. The guy there was telling me the brewery will be opened in February and, as you said, it's currently being brewed abroad.
They have a new brewer (ex Guinness guy apparently) who is overhauling all of the beers. Apparently he wasn't happy with the existing processes.

blueshed · 07-12-2013 06:04PM

nice little offy in Kennys, had planned on calling in today but it never happened. have they any draught craft in the pub. up the road in the County bar they have a few craft beers on draft plus Pilsner Urquell.

drumswan · 07-12-2013 06:11PM

That grannys knickers red or whatever is flying in The Headline.

About to crack a 5 Lamps Black Pitts porter, whatever about the beer the branding and packaging on these beers is fantastic.

*edit The Porters not bad either

Insect Overlord · 07-12-2013 07:38PM

8 Degrees Aztec Stout.

Waaaaay too much chilli. I don't like it.

drumswan · 07-12-2013 07:45PM

Insect Overlord wrote: »

8 Degrees Aztec Stout.

Waaaaay too much chilli. I don't like it.

First person Ive heard say it has too much chilli. Is there a chilli beer with less in it that you like?

Scortho · 07-12-2013 07:48PM

Heroditas wrote: »

Got it in Kenny's. The guy there was telling me the brewery will be opened in February and, as you said, it's currently being brewed abroad.
They have a new brewer (ex Guinness guy apparently) who is overhauling all of the beers. Apparently he wasn't happy with the existing processes.

Guinness guy...he'll be lost without his automatic button then

What beer are we drinking this week ?

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