The Prince of Burma appreciation thread

04-12-2013 09:49PM

Johner wrote: »

Moyes out.

Nooooo...keep him there

Bangor Billy · 04-12-2013 09:57PM

Very happy blue tonight !

Slattsy · 04-12-2013 10:01PM

David Moyes, what a great Everton team he built!

Luap · 04-12-2013 10:18PM

More like Fergie back in!

jimjamcos · 04-12-2013 10:22PM

Depressing time to be a United fan!

Was close enough to backing Everton tbh (thought they were a massive price given the form of two teams). Didn't in the end as really wanted United to kick the start the season tonight. That's not looking likely anytime soon though..

Luap · 04-12-2013 10:32PM

Suarez has more goals then 8 teams in the league and the same as Tottenham.

New thread name please Urban! :P

Slattsy · 04-12-2013 10:52PM

Luap wrote: »

Suarez has more goals then 8 teams in the league and the same as Tottenham.

New thread name please Urban! :P

And he missed the first what 6 matches.

Hulk Hands · 04-12-2013 11:44PM

SRFC wrote: »

Anyone buy Kevin Blakes book?

I'm reading it currently. I won't lie, he had a line about how people saying 'I was playing with the bookies money' are mugs and I thought of you! The first third of the book is all about discipline which some will find boring but will help some out no end if they chose to act on it. I'm just getting into the bets he actually places, and the reasoning behind them. Have looked at a few replays back and it's fascinating. Snippets like info about the draw in gowran, ground in tramore, different trainers style etc is very interesting to hear

SRFC · 04-12-2013 11:51PM

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I'm reading it currently. I won't lie, he had a line about how people saying 'I was playing with the bookies money' are mugs and I thought of you! The first third of the book is all about discipline which some will find boring but will help some out no end if they chose to act on it. I'm just getting into the bets he actually places, and the reasoning behind them. Have looked at a few replays back and it's fascinating. Snippets like info about the draw in gowran, ground in tramore, different trainers style etc is very interesting to hear

Yeah might buy it,can you get it with paypal??

The line about the ''bookies money'' you cant really say its a mug way of betting,what if a majority of my bets that were placed with bookies winnings won and I was in profit,Ive made some serious money backing with the bookies money after backing a big winner and turned it into thousands (and withdrawn it) its only a mug bet if your backing horses you wouldnt usually back just for the sake of it because the account is well up,Ive done it a few times but ive staked big bets beyond my means thanks to the winnings ive made off the bookies and the bets have usually won.

UrbanSea · 05-12-2013 12:03AM

But even if you are betting with winnings it is your money not bookies money. People call if that to rationalize losses or bets they wouldn't have otherwise.

For example if you really fancied a horse had a grand on it and you got back five. You might stick two grand on a 2s on shot you wouldn't otherwise sure if it loses its only 'bookies money'. A woeful way of thinking

ItAintMeBabe · 05-12-2013 12:12AM

I'm off to Clonmel tomorrow

Never been down before so gonna make the most of my day off and head down

SRFC · 05-12-2013 12:25AM

UrbanSea wrote: »

But even if you are betting with winnings it is your money not bookies money. People call if that to rationalize losses or bets they wouldn't have otherwise.

For example if you really fancied a horse had a grand on it and you got back five. You might stick two grand on a 2s on shot you wouldn't otherwise sure if it loses its only 'bookies money'. A woeful way of thinking

If only 3% percent is winning at Gambling it dont matter how you do your dough and how I do mine,at the end of the day nobody is really winning bar the select few.

hucklebuck · 05-12-2013 06:53AM

SRFC wrote: »

If only 3% percent is winning at Gambling it dont matter how you do your dough and how I do mine,at the end of the day nobody is really winning bar the select few.

This isn't aimed at you but if people that claim to be betting with bookies money were indeed doing that I would be amazed they can get their money on with bookies.

I think I will get this book, over the course of the year I would be a few hundred either up or down of even and I know discipline is my problem. I would think nothing of backing something in every race on a Saturday or Sunday even if I struggle to come up with a likely winnner.

It was only recently that I stopped betting on weekday racing unless it was the start of a big meeting. It was even more recently that I stopped betting on every flat race on a Saturday, I have no real interest in flat but got into the habit of backing in 95% of races on a Saturday and carried it into the flat season.

premierstone · 05-12-2013 12:43PM

SRFC wrote: »

The line about the ''bookies money'' you cant really say its a mug way of betting,what if a majority of my bets that were placed with bookies winnings won and I was in profit,Ive made some serious money backing with the bookies money after backing a big winner and turned it into thousands (and withdrawn it) its only a mug bet if your backing horses you wouldnt usually back just for the sake of it because the account is well up,Ive done it a few times but ive staked big bets beyond my means thanks to the winnings ive made off the bookies and the bets have usually won.

Ah stop your killing me here

This is like that time that other numpty was trying to tell everyone that he doesn't believe in the concept of value and that a winner is a winner whatever the price

SRFC · 05-12-2013 01:14PM

premierstone wrote: »

Ah stop your killing me here This is like that time that other numpty was trying to tell everyone that he doesn't believe in the concept of value and that a winner is a winner whatever the price

Value is mythical rubbish one persons value is underpriced to somebody else winners pay the bills.

kiers47 · 05-12-2013 01:19PM

SRFC wrote: »

Value is mythical rubbish one persons value is underpriced to somebody else winners pay the bills.

While this is true.

Value implies that you will have winners.

Colonel Sanders · 05-12-2013 01:36PM

kiers47 wrote: »

While this is true.

Value implies that you will have winners.

Exactly. The biggest misnomer ever is "look after the winners and the value will look after itself"

In fact the exact opposite is true

SRFC · 05-12-2013 01:38PM

There is no judge on what is value and what isnt,your bank account will tell you if your punting succesfully not a horse shortening,its a debate for another thread but people who cod themselves claiming they get value yet they aint in the 3% thats winning at gambling.

UrbanSea · 05-12-2013 01:45PM

SRFC wrote: »

There is no judge on what is value and what isnt,your bank account will tell you if your punting succesfully not a horse shortening,its a debate for another thread but people who cod themselves claiming they get value yet they aint in the 3% thats winning at gambling.

Value is a huge part of betting. Would you back a horse at 3/1 that you fancy but it should be a 10/1 shot

And it has nothing to do with a horse shortening. Value is getting 16s on a horse you rate as more of an 8/1 shot

SRFC · 05-12-2013 01:47PM

UrbanSea wrote: »

Value is a huge part of betting. Would you back a horse at 3/1 that you fancy but it should be a 10/1 shot

Who says it should be 10/1? If I fancy it the bookies also fancy it by laying it short.

UrbanSea · 05-12-2013 01:51PM

SRFC wrote: »

Who says it should be 10/1? If I fancy it the bookies also fancy it by laying it short.

It's not an exact science but any horse I back or think of backing I would always have an incline as to what price it should be. If it's way underpriced I'd more often than not leave it. Even Prince of Burma the other week I got on at 14s but if I could only get 8s I wouldn't have bothered irregardless of the gamble, same with that Lastkingofscotland yesterday, missed the 12s and he was underpriced at 7s

UrbanSea · 05-12-2013 02:03PM

Wide open looking Becher on Saturday and Mr Moonshine catches the eye back up in trip. Has ran some good races over unsuitable trips lately, now 7lbs below his 2nd behind Cape Tribulation at Wetherby last year threw 15 each way at 33s with the first four places being paid

NewApproach · 05-12-2013 02:12PM

SRFC, you're talking complete garbage.

SRFC · 05-12-2013 02:15PM

NewApproach wrote: »

SRFC, you're talking complete garbage.

Good lad great point,your another one of us mugs in the 97% dont cod yourself.

premierstone · 05-12-2013 03:00PM

Your a hoot SRFC, you really should be on a stage.

There are more intelligent people than yourself who actually lick windows as a passtime!

SRFC · 05-12-2013 03:03PM

premierstone wrote: »

Your a hoot SRFC, you really should be on a stage.

There are more intelligent people than yourself who actually lick windows as a passtime!

You must be in the 3%:rolleyes:

You boys with your value thinking your segal or hugh taylor ffs take your value and try pay the bills with it.

premierstone · 05-12-2013 03:18PM

SRFC wrote: »

You must be in the 3%:rolleyes:

Where are you pulling that mythical figure from, and yes I am in profit from gambling, not from Horses mind you horse racing is a hobby for me not a financial investment.

NewApproach · 05-12-2013 04:11PM

SRFC wrote: »

Good lad great point,your another one of us mugs in the 97% dont cod yourself.

You can tell yourself whatever you like if it comforts you.

CueCard7 · 05-12-2013 04:16PM

Prince of Burma's stablemate to bring home more Christmas bacon

05-12-2013 04:19PM

UrbanSea wrote: »

Wide open looking Becher on Saturday and Mr Moonshine catches the eye back up in trip. Has ran some good races over unsuitable trips lately, now 7lbs below his 2nd behind Cape Tribulation at Wetherby last year threw 15 each way at 33s with the first four places being paid

I wont be able to get a bet on this weekend but i would be interested to see how wyck hill gets on,a horse i like though i think hes short of being too class.hope someone can post a review of the race,will catch up on sunday night.

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