Please gamble sensibly

Sulla Felix · 03-12-2013 11:14PM #1

Just heard an ad for some online gaming site on spotify, Irish one too which is novel to me at least.

Anyway, like the drinks industry, they offer a mealy mouthed disclaimer at the end "please gamble sensibly, visit gambleaware.ie" or something.

I don't like it. They should be made tell the truth, in other words, "please gamble as much as possible but just under the threshold beyond which it will cause family members to take legal action preventing you from doing so any more, because really, we want to milk you for as long as possible."

Or something along those lines anyway.

Eight Ball · 03-12-2013 11:17PM

Gamblers are losers. If it wasn't for losers paddy power would be broke.

Pudsy33 · 03-12-2013 11:20PM

Eight Ball wrote: »

Gamblers are losers. If it wasn't for losers paddy power would be broke.

It can be destructive, like most things in large amounts, but to call anyone who gambles a loser is ridiculous.

cml387 · 03-12-2013 11:21PM

Pudsy33 wrote: »

It can be destructive, like most things in large amounts, but to call anyone who gambles a loser is ridiculous.

But you are a loser.. on average.

MadsL · 03-12-2013 11:22PM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Just heard an ad for some online gaming site on spotify, Irish one too which is novel to me at least.

Anyway, like the drinks industry, they offer a mealy mouthed disclaimer at the end "please gamble sensibly, visit gambleaware.ie" or something.

I don't like it. They should be made tell the truth, in other words, "please gamble as much as possible but just under the threshold beyond which it will cause family members to take legal action preventing you from doing so any more, because really, we want to milk you for as long as possible."

Or something along those lines anyway.

Problem Gambler OP? Or just don't like the way some people choose to have fun?

My name is URL · 03-12-2013 11:22PM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

I don't like it. They should be made tell the truth, in other words, "please gamble as much as possible but just under the threshold beyond which it will cause family members to take legal action preventing you from doing so any more, because really, we want to milk you for as long as possible."

It doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

TheMilkyPirate · 03-12-2013 11:23PM

Eight Ball wrote: »

Gamblers are losers. If it wasn't for losers paddy power would be broke.

Bad gamblers are losers.

Sulla Felix · 03-12-2013 11:24PM

MadsL wrote: »

Problem Gambler OP? Or just don't like the way some people choose to have fun?

My issue is with the organizations pretending they want you to do so in a reasonable manner, when really, they want as much of your money as possible.

Oh, and I like a bit of a flutter and a drink, just for the sake of clarity.

oldyouth · 03-12-2013 11:25PM

A few bob on the footy or horses every weekend for a bit of fun is manageable. Being doing it online every week for around 6 years now and reckon I'm down around €200. To me it is a social expense

Karl Stein · 03-12-2013 11:25PM

Lots of people throw a few quid on the weekend sport for the lols and never get in any deeper.

I play a bit of poker the odd time myself but don't consider it gambling.

My name is URL · 03-12-2013 11:25PM

MadsL wrote: »

Problem Gambler OP? Or just don't like the way some people choose to have fun?

Your post sounds like a judgemental prat

Tin Foil Hat · 03-12-2013 11:26PM

Gambling is not sensible, full stop.
Taking ones hard earned cash and fukking it away on a horse, football game, or whatever, is probably the stupidest thing I can possibly imagine.

Dicky Pride · 03-12-2013 11:26PM

This country, and this government, is a slave to the Gambling industry. It got away with murder in the last two budgets, but for some reason, they seem to be immune to any kind of public outcry.

Two seconds before Man Utd V Spurs kicked off on Sunday, there was an ad for Bet365 "Bet in Play" trying to entice people to be before on the game. More and more approved accounts on Twitter are being approached by gambling companies to help them gain more customers.

At some point, like cigarettes and alcohol, it's going to have to stop.

Take ads on your mobile device for example...click it...it brings you right to the bet. Imagine an ad that immediately dispersed whiskey? Wouldn't be allowed would it?

People will laugh and joke about this, cause it's on After Hours, but I really believe that 2014 will be the year that Gambling will be fought, head on.

MadsL · 03-12-2013 11:26PM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

My issue is with the organizations pretending they want you to do so in a reasonable manner, when really, they want as much of your money as possible.

If that were true payouts on slot machines would be set a 0.0001%

You don't really appreciate the psychology of gambling do you?

The Backwards Man · 03-12-2013 11:28PM

cml387 wrote: »

But you are a loser.. on average.

You wanna put a bet on that?

A wise man once told me only ever bet half of what you can afford to lose. You double your money or better every day.

P_1 · 03-12-2013 11:28PM

"Past performance is no guarantee of future results, your investment may go down as well as up" sounds more apt to be honest...

Sulla Felix · 03-12-2013 11:29PM

MadsL wrote: »

If that were true payouts on slot machines would be set a 0.0001%

You don't really appreciate the psychology of gambling do you?

I do.
Obviously you don't, because anyone who does wouldn't suggest slot payouts at 0.0001% as a profit maximizing strategy. :rolleyes:

Now, are you suggesting that the gambling companies aren't trying to maximize revenue?

Ace2007 · 03-12-2013 11:29PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Gambling is not sensible, full stop.
Taking ones hard earned cash and fukking it away on a horse, football game, or whatever, is probably the stupidest thing I can possibly imagine.

spending it on smokes and destroying your health and that of people around you is a lot worse than gambling.

PizzamanIRL · 03-12-2013 11:30PM

Is 'gambling sensibly' not a bit of an oxymoron?

Karl Stein · 03-12-2013 11:30PM

Dicky Pride wrote: »

At some point, like cigarettes and alcohol, it's going to have to stop.

Lol what?

You want to leave the supply and distribution of more products to the criminal underworld?

Get a grip.

Dicky Pride · 03-12-2013 11:31PM

Carlos Roca wrote: »

Lol what?

You want to leave the supply and distribution of more products to the criminal underworld?

Get a grip.

I'm talking about the advertising of it.

D1stant · 03-12-2013 11:33PM

Dicky Pride wrote: »

Imagine an ad that immediately dispersed whiskey? Wouldn't be allowed would it?

Get thee to a nunnery

Tin Foil Hat · 03-12-2013 11:33PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

spending it on smokes and destroying your health and that of people around you is a lot worse than gambling.

It really isn't. There is almost nothing that can destroy your life, and the lives of you nearest and dearest, as quickly and completely as gambling.

Warper · 03-12-2013 11:34PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Gambling is not sensible, full stop.
Taking ones hard earned cash and fukking it away on a horse, football game, or whatever, is probably the stupidest thing I can possibly imagine.

You can say the same thing about drink, smokes, bad food, stocks, mortgages etc etc.

Whatever floats your boat, no need for more fcuking nanniness

MadsL · 03-12-2013 11:35PM

Sulla Felix wrote: »

I do.
Obviously you don't, because anyone who does wouldn't suggest slot payouts at 0.0001% as a profit maximizing strategy. :rolleyes:

Now, are you suggesting that the gambling companies aren't trying to maximize revenue?

The best profit maximising strategy would be to keep your regular punter solvent, able to earn more money and gambling regularly, would it not?

Not quite what you suggest in your OP.

diomed · 03-12-2013 11:35PM

Eight Ball wrote: »

Gamblers are losers. If it wasn't for losers paddy power would be broke.

Not true.

MadsL · 03-12-2013 11:36PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

Gambling is not sensible, full stop.
Taking ones hard earned cash and fukking it away on a horse, football game, or whatever, is probably the stupidest thing I can possibly imagine.

Do you have a pension fund?

Filibuster · 03-12-2013 11:38PM

diomed wrote: »

Not true.

I'll bet you €1,000 it's true

Sulla Felix · 03-12-2013 11:38PM

MadsL wrote: »

The best profit maximising strategy would be to keep your regular punter solvent, able to earn more money and gambling regularly, would it not?

Not quite what you suggest in your OP.

me wrote:

because really, we want to milk you for as long as possible."

so we agree, they want as much of the punters money as possible without drawing down an undue amount of opprobrium. Good stuff.

P_1 · 03-12-2013 11:40PM

Everything you do in life is a gamble, especially with money, the risk is related to the reward. Lets take a fictional thousand euro and present a few possible scenarios for what you can do with it.

1 - You keep it in a current account, your risk is that your bank goes bust, your reward is more than likely having to pay the bank for the privilage.
2 - You keep it in your house, your risk is that your house burns down or somebody steals it, your reward is nil.
3 - You keep it in a savings account, again your risk is that your bank goes bust, your reward is about 2%.
4 - You invest it in a stock portfolio, your risk is that your stocks tank, your reward is anything from 3% upwards
5 - You back the hot favourite to win it's match/cover the handicap/win the race, your risk is it failing to do so, your reward is 50%/91%/400%...

Ace2007 · 03-12-2013 11:40PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

It really isn't. There is almost nothing that can destroy your life, and the lives of you nearest and dearest, as quickly and completely as gambling.

I'd prefer to see someone gambling €50 a week and losing it if so may be every week for 20 years then I would see someone spend €50 a week a smokes.

You view gambling any amount as leading to destroying people's lives, which is false - there are many people spending fortunes on the lotto every week, on horse and football for the fun of it, Most people's lives are ruined from smoking related diseases than from gambling.

Please gamble sensibly

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