Solution to the new breed of scumbags

Honestly, there's little to be done, short or nuking every city that the problem occurs in and wiping them off the map.
Plenty of scumbags have working parents as has already been said, and plenty of good, functional members of society have scumbag parents.
It's really down to what the individual makes of it, sure, the parents can influence it to an extent, but once the child becomes old enough to make their own decisions, they're going to do what they want. Hell, I had 3 friends, they didn't hang around most people in the area because they considered them scum, one day, they decided to smoke, being under 18, they stole tobacco, few weeks later they decided to get pissed in a field, few months later one of them decided to try weed, and now he's an outright stoner. And now they're not really any different from what they considered scum. They had practically no influence except from their parents who are all civilized human beings who would condemn this if they knew it was happening, so it just proves there doesn't even need to be considerable influence for a child to turn into a scumbag, it just happens.

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Not in wexford anyway, because is always "sure, they drove down from Dublin and done it".

Exactly Feckers

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I think it was caused by developers giving councillors backhanders for YEARS to build massive estates with zero amenities riding rough shod over planning restrictions and development plans

Reap what you sow

oh yeah … has to be someone else's fault …. thats whats wrong with society …. no sense of personal responsibility….blame the bankers, lack of amenities, developers, planning authorities etc …. anyone but the hard done by scum that have just bred more scum.

there are multiple issues with the system
- not least incompetent civil servants/political decisions,
- the bleeding hearts society,
- the media ,
- the gardai (for lack of enforcement)
- the government (for not giving the gardai the blank cheques so they don't have the "we have no resources" line),
- the courts (for the judges not giving sentences which deter repeat criminals)
- the government (for not providing enough prison spaces),
- the EU (for not allowing us to hold convicted criminals in anything less than a 3star hotel)
- The government (for breeding a culture of people with entitlements)

pointless giving any more reasons …but they are fairly endless.

Holsten wrote: »

Education, discipline and correct parenting would work for most I reckon.

A little dose of self-respect wouldn't go amiss either.Concentrate on helping the youth out by giving them things to do in the community and hopefully they'll think for themselves before sinking into a cycle of anti social activity.

A fisherman becomes a fisherman because he is taught.Same applies to becoming an upstanding member of the public.Villainizing them makes them apathetic and gives them justification for their actions.

Mammanabammana wrote: »

Rather than execution, William I of England preferred blinding criminals, as they would then remain in society as a visible deterrent to others.

Just saying, like.

Hence the expression "he played a blinder!"

More social welfare bla bla bla bla

AH is really starting to lose its charm.

Eugenics !
Hurrah.

Or a zombie war.
Or daleks.

A sharknado might sort them out

I'm afraid to say the only definite solution is Eugenics. It's not appealing considering the sorry state of the 20th centuries efforts in this area, but for the greater good...........:rolleyes:

wexie wrote: »

I have to admit to being somewhat surprised it's coming from you though.

I have always been in favor of population control.

Its hard to see it from the inside, but Humans are this planet's biggest problem.

Less of us would be better.

Unfortunately those who are worst positioned to support them, breed the most.

Not sure why that is..... Hope I guess.

Two child rule. Stat.

Take only photographs, leave only footprints. etc.

SamAK wrote: »

Ah yeah, great idea.

Typical 'out of sight, out of mind' way of looking at it. Anti-loitering laws do not just make bored teenagers vanish in a puff of smoke.

I'm amazed at some of these comments, such as "mandatory abortion for those who pro-create at will just to sponge off benefits"........

Fair play to any person that can devise a way of means-testing that.

Most of these ideas are flippant and unrealistic at best. Dodgy topic, OP!

The idea that the human race can continue to grow it's population at its current rate is fundamentally, arithmetically and logically flawed....at best.

OP, this is probably the most pertinent topic of our time. The more people on this planet, the lower the standard of living for all of them, ergo the poorer they become, the more vulnerable the become and the more opportunity for scum (be it corporate scum, or hoodlums) to victimize and abuse them. Just because the topic is unpalatable for the bleeding heart religious moralists to face doesn't mean that its a dodgy topic. Saying its too hard is just a cop out. It's not going away.:mad:

simple, money means far more to these people than bringing a child into the world.Fathers name on the birth cert. Make sure that if the single person or a couple bring a child into the world, that they cannot adequately support, that they are worse off financially. With the savings, use it towards subsidized childcare and no other school related costs, for the people we actually want to have kids... this generalization that they will be paying my pension in the future is laughable, a significant percentage over their lifetimes, will be massive beneficiaries of the tax payers largess here...

basically leave them with very little to no discretionary expenditure, have it service rich and cash poor... This would also solve the problem of the welfare tourists that were well publicised in todays paper...

wexie wrote: »

hmmm......while I don't think you're entirely wrong there is a flaw in your theory. In order for there to be rich people there will always be poor people, mostly by the mechanics of how they become rich.

So we can either all be poor, or we can have rich and poor. We can never all be rich

That is my point though, we, as a race, will never be any better off than we are/have been (depending on opinion) at the peak of the oil based economy. We have a larger middle class than ever before, but there are Billions of people living in abject poverty with little to no hope of ever bettering their situation.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/07/map-more-than-half-of-humanity-lives-within-this-circle/
These people aren't particularly scummy, or evil or have extraordinary crime rates etc. There are just so many of them, clamoring to get out of the cycle of poverty they are stuck in, subsistence wages, constant hunger, atrocious working and living conditions, and complete and utter vulnerability to changes of conditions (from economic decisions, to climatic events).
Nobody wants to say it out loud, but they have no hope. It's the dumb and dumber moment..."so your saying there's a chance ?"
The time will come when the people in that little circle are going to stop playing the game. When that comes, we are all in deep sh!t.
Wouldn't it be better to stop the population growth, maintain an equilibrium and try and improve the lot of brother man ? Even if it is at the cost of having big families sitting around the Christmas table.... The vast majority of people don't get a turkey, many don't even have a table. Just a sense of desperation because they have 8 mouths to feed.
We need a better plan. As a species.