The Pat Kenny Show

neris · 25-11-2013 11:12AM

Employee on a few days off shocker

georgesstreet · 25-11-2013 01:33PM

mike65 wrote: »

Really? You actually demanded to know why the presenter of a programme on a commercial privately owned station was off for a few days?

I did? I don't remember demanding anything, but I do remember asking. From whom did I do all this demanding?

mike65 · 25-11-2013 01:38PM

Why did you phone if it was not to demand an explanation? You don't strike me as the sort to waste a call on a polite enquiry after Mr Kenny's personal circumstances or terms of employment. Not that either are your concern - are you going to bombard RTE about Finucane?

At least you can claim you have a stake in her salary.

mike65 · 25-11-2013 01:44PM

Okay I think we are done.

8mv · 28-11-2013 12:21PM

I normally despair at Pat's choice of live musical guests, I don't usually like cover versions and Brian Kennedy would not normally inspire confidence, but his renditions of River and Free Man in Paris just now were excellent.

Edit - perhaps he shouldn't have tried to tackle Amelia.

constitutionus · 28-11-2013 12:26PM

its actually quite nice.

but three songs is taking the piss.

mike65 · 28-11-2013 12:40PM

Never mess with the classics unless it a radical overhaul.

kneemos · 28-11-2013 12:53PM

constitutionus wrote: »

its actually quite nice.

but three songs is taking the piss.

They pay for these slots presumably?

georgesstreet · 28-11-2013 03:49PM

I hadn't considered that possibility and I wonder is that Newstalk's policy?

Many interviews nowadays are the "me me me me me" interview, when someone well known is on to talk about their music/book/adventure/drug issues etc etc, or else it's someone less famous to talk about their abuse/operation/disability etc etc. So many of these interviews turn into the "me me me me me" conversation ("I went here and then I did that and then I decided this and then I felt that etc etc etc). Generally, my radio is turned off for this type of thing as there is little more tedious than listening to someone talking all about themselves. While a fan of Kennedy's music, the bit I heard was him talking all about himself, so after short time I turned over to LBC and James O'Brien's good Mystery Hour.

delaad · 28-11-2013 11:09PM

In an aside a week or so ago, Moncreiff mentioned in a matter of fact sort of way that the show had "bid" for some celeb who had recently had a book published.

Sounded like policy to me.

georgesstreet · 29-11-2013 08:21AM

delaad wrote: »

In an aside a week or so ago, Moncreiff mentioned in a matter of fact sort of way that the show had "bid" for some celeb who had recently had a book published.

Sounded like policy to me.

When he said "bid" did you take that to mean a cash bid? You think it is the on air talent who accepts bids, as a policy of Newstalk? I have to say, that seems unlikely.

constitutionus · 29-11-2013 10:53AM

kneemos wrote: »

They pay for these slots presumably?

god knows.

the after 12 bit always feels like filler to me. then again its free PR for the guy and we do know that lads like brendan keenan , fionan, and co get paid to come on and give us their opinion on RTE and the like so it could be.

EDIT

heres part of a post from SNUBBLESTE from earlier this year

Another poster posted this list from 2011
The Sunday Times has published the list of payments that RTE have made to external commentators invited onto their programmes over the 3 year 2009-2011 period. The list reveals a clear bias in favour of Irish Times journalists. Note: Harry McGee earned so much principally because of his Irish language proficiency and consequent use on Irish language programmes.
Harry McGee €25165, Michael O'Regan €15785, Fionnan Sheehan €13800, Pat Leahy €10260, Maire-Louise O'Donnell €9784, Shane Coleman €8560, Noel Whelan €6240, Terry Prone €5210, Michael Clifford €4765
Justine McCarthy €2860, Fintan O'Toole €2740, Pol O'Conghaile €2705, Brendan Keenan €2675, Paul O'Brien €2645, Stephen Collins €2533, Mary Minihan €2515, Catherine Halloran €1945
TOTAL €120187

CountyHurler · 29-11-2013 11:10AM

^Where's John Drennon, and does he get an allowance for his comic script writer.

mike65 · 29-11-2013 11:16AM

constitutionus wrote: »

DIT

Another poster posted this list from 2011

The Sunday Times has published the list of payments that RTE have made to external commentators invited onto their programmes over the 3 year 2009-2011 period. The list reveals a clear bias in favour of Irish Times journalists. Note: Harry McGee earned so much principally because of his Irish language proficiency and consequent use on Irish language programmes.
Harry McGee €25165, Michael O'Regan €15785, Fionnan Sheehan €13800, Pat Leahy €10260, Maire-Louise O'Donnell €9784, Shane Coleman €8560, Noel Whelan €6240, Terry Prone €5210, Michael Clifford €4765
Justine McCarthy €2860, Fintan O'Toole €2740, Pol O'Conghaile €2705, Brendan Keenan €2675, Paul O'Brien €2645, Stephen Collins €2533, Mary Minihan €2515, Catherine Halloran €1945
TOTAL €120187

Is Mammy working for free? No wonder she is so popular!

Callan57 · 29-11-2013 11:30AM

mike65 wrote: »

Is Mammy working for free? No wonder she is so popular!

How many pensions is Mammy collecting???? Working for free don't make me

:D:D

constitutionus · 29-11-2013 12:27PM

yup.

euro for euro she's probably costing us more than the lot put together !

dulpit · 29-11-2013 03:03PM

My understanding is that MLOD is now working for free on RTE since she became a senator, but she got more than €9k before that? Jesus...

georgesstreet · 29-11-2013 03:07PM

dulpit wrote: »

My understanding is that MLOD is now working for free on RTE since she became a senator, but she got more than €9k before that? Jesus...

lets all join in and play the lets-give-out-about-why-anyone-should-get-paid-for-working game

snubbleste · 29-11-2013 03:16PM

That particular list was non-RTE journalists (commentators) paid by RTE for commenting on radio.

georgesstreet · 29-11-2013 03:20PM

snubbleste wrote: »

That particular list was non-RTE journalists (commentators) paid by RTE for commenting on radio.

I am assuming as most of us on this thread are readers, we all read that.

They are a list of people who did some work for RTE for which they got paid. Shock! Horror!

constitutionus · 29-11-2013 04:02PM

you left out the bit where the public was never informed they were being paid for their contributions,and indeed were portrayed as purely independent commentators offering an opinion gratis based on their supposed expertises.

RTE paying them changes the story and the sunday times deserve credit for throwing a light on the matter.

mbur · 29-11-2013 09:32PM

I wonder is there a standard rate per word or is it per question answered? The latter migh explain why Mammie doesn't get paid.

Why are we 'talking' about this on Pat's thread?

georgesstreet · 02-12-2013 01:06PM

mbur wrote: »

I wonder is there a standard rate per word or is it per question answered? The latter migh explain why Mammie doesn't get paid.

Why are we 'talking' about this on Pat's thread?

"we" are not - you are!

Welsh Megaman · 02-12-2013 09:54PM

Apologies for going off-topic, but does anyone know who is winning in the listening figures war - Pat or Sean O'Rourke?

padd b1975 · 02-12-2013 11:17PM

Welsh Megaman wrote: »

Apologies for going off-topic, but does anyone know who is winning in the listening figures war - Pat or Sean O'Rourke?

Nobody knows for sure yet, the JNLR's are a bit behind when it releases their most 'recent' figures.
One thing is for sure though, Kenny has a lot of ground to make up!

georgesstreet · 03-12-2013 08:13AM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Nobody knows for sure yet, the JNLR's are a bit behind when it releases their most 'recent' figures.
One thing is for sure though, Kenny has a lot of ground to make up!

So on the one hand you don't know, but on the other you know PK is far behind SOR?

dulpit · 03-12-2013 10:18AM

georgesstreet wrote: »

So on the one hand you don't know, but on the other you know PK is far behind SOR?

Well he was starting at a low base (Tom 'the most boring man in radio' Dunne didn't have huge audience).

The JNLR figures are for past 6 months, so until 6 months after both shows started (they started in September, so March) you won't get a fully accurate reflection. Right?

Onthe3rdDay · 04-12-2013 05:47AM

To be fair to Pat, It'll take 12 to 18 months for real figures to emerge. It would be a success if he has half of the Radio 1 audience. (still wouldn't make financial sense but that's a totally different argument)

georgesstreet · 04-12-2013 07:23AM

constitutionus wrote: »

you left out the bit where the public was never informed they were being paid for their contributions,and indeed were portrayed as purely independent commentators offering an opinion gratis based on their supposed expertises.

If you did not know that journalists working professionally as journalists need to be paid, then you now know that. To tell someone else they "left out" telling you that journalists working professionally as journalists needs to be paid suggests a certain naiveness.

Loafing Oaf · 04-12-2013 11:27AM

Tedious stuff on both PK and SOR this morning (i.e. stuff that doesn't interest me

): childcare, women's prisons...

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