Carl Froch vs George Groves

supersean1999 · 24-11-2013 02:11AM

HigginsJ wrote: »

Yea fair enough. Bring on the rematch

I can't see a rematch,

Johner · 24-11-2013 02:12AM

Groves has gained a lot of fans tonight and he will be world champion. he has all the attributes. Looking forward to it.

HigginsJ · 24-11-2013 02:12AM

supersean1999 wrote: »

I can't see a rematch,

Froch is so consumed with his legacy that he won't want to bow out like that or leave it unsettled with Groves

Johner · 24-11-2013 02:13AM

menoscemo wrote: »

Anyone who thinks the fight was stopped too early should watch Perez v Abdusalamov. Better to stop a fight a round too early than a minute too late....there were 3.5 rounds left and I think it was only going one way...

Well done on being the only person in the world to think it wasn't stopped early. And your comparasion to the Perez fight is pure bollox. He took a solid beating for 10 rounds. Groves took a couple of punches. Take those Froch tinted glasses off it was a bull**** stoppage.

SlickRic · 24-11-2013 02:14AM

I truly have no interest in a rematch whatsoever.

supersean1999 · 24-11-2013 02:15AM

menoscemo wrote: »

Anyone who thinks the fight was stopped too early should watch Perez v Abdusalamov. Better to stop a fight a round too early than a minute too late....there were 3.5 rounds left and I think it was only going one way...

There is 5 levels of beatdowns between the two fights, froch will suffer more from this fight, mentally he will be shattered, got outboxed and hurt a lot, and the crowd booing him will kill him, he got lucky against a novice who had not learned to pace a fight,

JacksonHeightsOwn · 24-11-2013 02:16AM

i couldnt be arsed writing a lond winded post.

The fight was fixed. Be it the referee and the judges. Groves won every round bar the 5th, yet two judges had it only 1 round in the difference.

The ref jumped in, and held the wrong guy when doing so when George finally took a clean enough punch.

It was a fix, simple as that

supersean1999 · 24-11-2013 02:19AM

chrisbonnie wrote: »

i couldnt be arsed writing a lond winded post.

The fight was fixed. Be it the referee and the judges. Groves won every round bar the 5th, yet two judges had it only 1 round in the difference.

The ref jumped in, and held the wrong guy when doing so when George finally took a clean enough punch.

It was a fix, simple as that

The ref thought he had to stop it because he prob thought how is it possible for a judge to have close, froch should of been deducted 2-3 points, the whole thing stank

blade1 · 24-11-2013 02:20AM

hungry hippo 4 wrote: »

I for one am delighted with the outcome. Groves could not finish the job and the tide was beginning to turn. Fcuk Groves, what an annoying ****ebag! The Cobra strikes again. Yeah baby

Huh, great bunch of lads,the Groves'.

menoscemo · 24-11-2013 02:22AM

Johner wrote: »

Well done on being the only person in the world to think it wasn't stopped early. And your comparasion to the Perez fight is pure bollox. He took a solid beating for 10 rounds. Groves took a couple of punches. Take those Froch tinted glasses off it was a bull**** stoppage.

LOL, I am no big Froch fan but groves took 3 punches solidly on the chin in the space of 2 seconds and was all over the shop.
Abdusalumov took a solid beating but at no point was in obvious trouble, in fact the commentators were split on the decision at the end. I am
Just saying that the ref has a hell of a difficult job. If the ref had let that fight go on another minute and groves continued to take a beating then everyone would be saying he should have stopped it earlier. The stoppage was marginal but not scanalous.

Pighead · 24-11-2013 02:23AM

SlickRic wrote: »

I truly have no interest in a rematch whatsoever.

Why not?

supersean1999 · 24-11-2013 02:23AM

menoscemo wrote: »

LOL, I am no big Froch fan but groves took 3 punches solidly on the chin in the space of 2 seconds and was all over the shop.
Abdusalumov too a solid beating but at no point was in obvious trouble, in fact the commentators were split on the decision at the end. I am
Just saying that the ref has a hell of a difficult job. If the ref had let that fight go on another minute and groves continued to take a beating then everyone would be saying he should have stopped it earlier. The stoppage was marginal but not scanalous.

Groves never took a beating,

JacksonHeightsOwn · 24-11-2013 02:24AM

supersean1999 wrote: »

The ref thought he had to stop it because he prob thought how is it possible for a judge to have close, froch should of been deducted 2-3 points, the whole thing stank

no doubt, i think it was only the round before that he reprimanded Froch twice in the one round.

There was another instance in an earlier round when Froch elbowed Groves on the break, and the ref reprimanded Groves.

It was an absolute joke. It ****ing stinks

supersean1999 · 24-11-2013 02:24AM

Pighead wrote: »

Why not?

Because he prob feels robbed of his money

supersean1999 · 24-11-2013 02:29AM

chrisbonnie wrote: »

no doubt, i think it was only the round before that he reprimanded Froch twice in the one round.

There was another instance in an earlier round when Froch elbowed Groves on the break, and the ref reprimanded Groves.

It was an absolute joke. It ****ing stinks

It's not just the ending for me, all 3 things combined along with the burns joke means I won't ever pay money again to a hearn promotion, I enjoyed the fight, if froch knocked groves or had him hurt more then I'd have no problem with the finish,but the scorecards and the refs blatent favouring of froch would of been the same, which is clearly corrupt

12gauge dave · 24-11-2013 02:30AM

whatever about the referee stopping the fight the scorecards are a disgrace, what is going on with scorecards lately?one of the judges seen mayweather vs canelo as a draw if my memory serves me correctly and pacquiao was robbed by judges against bradley was it? forgive me if i have names mixed up im half asleep

Pighead · 24-11-2013 02:31AM

supersean1999 wrote: »

Because he prob feels robbed of his money

Seems a strange view to take. It was a cracker of a fight. We were robbed of the thrilling finale which can hopefully be rectified with a rematch.

menoscemo · 24-11-2013 02:33AM

The last left hook was a real steam rolling punch

JacksonHeightsOwn · 24-11-2013 02:35AM

supersean1999 wrote: »

It's not just the ending for me, all 3 things combined along with the burns joke means I won't ever pay money again to a hearn promotion, I enjoyed the fight, if froch knocked groves or had him hurt more then I'd have no problem with the finish,but the scorecards and the refs blatent favouring of froch would of been the same, which is clearly corrupt

i couldnt agree more.

there's a poll on Eastside boxing asking if the ref hadnt have stopped what would the outcome have been.

Id like to think Groves would have won on points, but going on those dodgy scorecards you'd have to say that wouldnt have happened. Its nearly like you cannot get the decision agaisnt a matchroom fighter, so you have to knock them out, or you lose. Thats it.

HigginsJ · 24-11-2013 02:38AM

chrisbonnie wrote: »

i couldnt agree more.

there's a poll on Eastside boxing asking if the ref hadnt have stopped what would the outcome have been.

Id like to think Groves would have won on points, but going on those dodgy scorecards you'd have to say that wouldnt have happened. Its nearly like you cannot get the decision agaisnt a matchroom fighter, so you have to knock them out, or you lose. Thats it.

It's getting to the stage that score cards in general are so unreliable of late that KO is the only way to be certain

celticcrash · 24-11-2013 02:39AM

Clearly a fix. Not only an insult to the public, but daylight robbery. Groves was cheated by the British boxing board of control. The public was robbed of their money.

Here is their email address ;
admin@bbbofc.com
Please sent your complaints to them. Not that I think that it will do any good.

supersean1999 · 24-11-2013 02:44AM

chrisbonnie wrote: »

i couldnt agree more.

there's a poll on Eastside boxing asking if the ref hadnt have stopped what would the outcome have been.

Id like to think Groves would have won on points, but going on those dodgy scorecards you'd have to say that wouldnt have happened. Its nearly like you cannot get the decision agaisnt a matchroom fighter, so you have to knock them out, or you lose. Thats it.

No way groves was getting it on points I had it 6-2 with a 10-8 obviously included, I think that's reasonable . But a point between them is a joke of the highest order, froch was seriously gassed too, lets not think he was full of beans ,

JacksonHeightsOwn · 24-11-2013 02:49AM

supersean1999 wrote: »

No way groves was getting it on points I had it 6-2 with a 10-8 obviously included, I think that's reasonable . But a point between them is a joke of the highest order, froch was seriously gassed too, lets not think he was full of beans ,

i had it 7-1, my father had it the same, my mate had it 6-2, and my Froch loving brother had it 7-1. All to Groves.

He was definetly tiring alright, no doubt there. But Froch was knackered as well, that barage was his last hurrah imo.

But we'll never know.

supersean1999 · 24-11-2013 02:58AM

chrisbonnie wrote: »

i had it 7-1, my father had it the same, my mate had it 6-2, and my Froch loving brother had it 7-1. All to Groves.

He was definetly tiring alright, no doubt there. But Froch was knackered as well, that barage was his last hurrah imo.

But we'll never know.

Agree. And give your Froch loving brother a slap around the ears :-)

Pighead · 24-11-2013 03:03AM

supersean1999 wrote: »

Agree. And give your Froch loving brother a slap around the ears :-)

I gave Froch three of the eight rounds. He definitely won the 5th and 8th in my eyes. The third was pretty close and could have gone either way but I thought Froch nicked it.

SRFC · 24-11-2013 03:07AM

The commentary on this like so many others was a joke,so one sided imo clearly groves was on top but they made out in was a landslide with him dominating every single round even heard him say ''groves is making a mug out froch'' :rolleyes:

Liamalone · 24-11-2013 03:18AM

Boxing took a beating tonight.

JacksonHeightsOwn · 24-11-2013 03:22AM

i asked Eddie Hearn how he scored it.

He had Groves just 2 points up going into the 9th.

So seeing as George won round by 2 points, he gave Froch 4 of the following 8 rounds.

Its hard to explain, it really is

nacho libre · 24-11-2013 03:22AM

I'm sure Carl would have respected the refs decision if he decided Carl couldn't have continued:p

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As bizarre as it may sound, i think it will be harder for Froch to come back from this fight than it will be for Groves.

JacksonHeightsOwn · 24-11-2013 03:31AM

nacho libre wrote: »

I'm sure Carl would have respected the refs decision if he decided Carl couldn't have continued:p

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As bizarre as it may sound, i think it will be harder for Froch to come back from this fight than it will be for Groves.

look at this way. Who do you think is in hospital tonight?

Its certainly not George Groves thats for sure.

Carl Froch vs George Groves

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