Return of Kings, men's opinions

Reading through the site, by god there's some level of mad goin on alright. Thinking about the blokes on there and tying in with the recent PUA thread, I formed a half baked theory on them and why they might think along these lines.

Guys getting into PUA are more likely to be or feel somewhat socially excluded. They have real trouble interacting with women. Now if they do end up with someone, maybe this personality is more likely to select for... well, bitches? Out of all the women on the planet they hone in on them. Some mutually unhealthy relationship vibe. Then it ends as things do. Then these guys, who would also tend to be the analytical types try to work out the mechanisms of why. This leads them to "systems" like PUA and the company and support of other men like them. And because IMH/mad theory these guys tend to preselect for bitches they all have a similar story to tell and this looks like a pattern that can be applied to all women. Throw in men from nasty divorces and to this mindset the world indeed is filled with neurotic bitches. Demonstrably so for this demographic of men.

Did some digging and found the Roosh chap has his own site/blog. On it I found a piece he wrote which again IMH may back up the above mad theory. Entitled You did this to me. Where he explains why he was set on this path. I have observed that the first romantic relationship a guy has and the dynamic within it sets the scene for the following more often than not. Reading it it does sound very likely he went for and preselected a few right wagons in his pre PUA days. He now extrapolates this to all women. Basically I went out with a bitch and she was a woman, therefore it follows that all women must be bitches and with this worldview I'll find plenty of examples of this because of selection bias.

Well not quite. He and others in the ROK camp reserve the greatest ire for American women(modern American woman, their grandmothers were all saints in the "good old days"). They're the absolute worst in the world. Fat feminist beasts by their account. However as is usually the case the grass is greener elsewhere*. These chaps write up guides on how to score with non US women in south America, Eastern Europe and the like. This Roosh dude seems to make a handy few quid from such travel guides.

This plugs into my mad theory too. Because they had bad experiences with American women(tm) they blanket all of them with the same character, but "exotic" women don't suffer the same stereotyping in their worldview, so they're more likely to be open to and preselect non bitches in Moscow or wherever(even though there are wagons as well as sound women everywhere). Even then because they hold a fear of a woman getting too close as they've been badly hurt before, even if they meet a very sound woman in Brazil they'll never commit because of this fear. Check out the Roosh chaps writings on his site about a woman named "Anna" he met in Ukraine(IIRC). Long story cut short; she's gorgeous, funny, clever and kind and really likes him and he likes her. He leaves her to continue on the road he's decided to travel. You can tell he's conflicted but no matter, he's no longer the geeky hurt kid, he's now Roosh, a man loved and supported by other men like him.

ASIDE I have noted over the years that if men get burned in love and suffer a broken heart, they are less likely to bounce back from it than the women I've known. I've seen women come out of the harshest relationships still holding a glimmer of hope for "true love" and all that and I've seen men have a failed relationship that wasn't too bad close up for life. Odd.

They also hate many men. Mirror images of them before they had their "revelation". The so called "beta males". The fear of going back to that is scary to them. Understandably as that's when they got badly hurt.

So I can see where these guys come from to some degree. Yes their stuff has a ring of truth to it, if we're talking about the thundering wagons "who did them wrong", but they make the adolescent error of assuming this goes for all women and from that anger and fear comes much of the content of their site.







*you see this here in AH from time to time. Irish women are fat etc and the streets of Gdansk are paved with supermodels. Though if you ask a Polish lad about "his" women, you can bet you'll hear a string of complaints. As every culture moans about politicians and the weather, tis universal.