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The Self pitying garda...

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  • #62
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    SimonQuinlank wrote: »
    Sitting around watching TV for good portions of a shift,snooping on neigbours on PULSE,taxi-ing superiors to pubs and family members home from nights out when supposedly on patrol,not arsed walking the beat because its cold,free or heavily discounted meals on duty,free use of public transport off duty,€57k PA basic,massive pension,virtually unsackable.

    Heartbreaking stuff alright.

    Hmmm ... if you're serious , that's a hilarious post ,

    if not I'd like to add that they use the helicopter to collect takeaways.


  • #63
    just_be_nice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭just_be_nice


    Nurses, teachers, guards, the foundations of our society. If you are one of these then likely you have done more for our society than our society has done for you.


  • #64
    Daidy2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Daidy2011


    wicklowstevo wrote: »
    how do you get that from what I wrote ? out of every ten days the roster demands that you work 6 ten hour shifts usually including some 9pm to 7am shifts at the end of the ten day cycle.

    I though that was fairly clear ? am I missing something ?

    and yes there is a allowance of something like 12 euro for working nights Monday to sat, but any ones who's worked nights can tell you what that does to your body in the long run

    Wickowstevo - my apologies if you thought I was being argumentative that was not my intention.

    My interpretation of your post was that in a 10 day cycle, 6 on/4 off, the average garda works 60 hours. A 10 day cycle equates to 2 x 5 day weeks, I divided 60/2 and got 30/week - hence the question.


  • #65
    Daidy2011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 109 ✭✭Daidy2011


    just_be_nice wrote: »
    Nurses, teachers, guards, the foundations of our society. If you are one of these then likely you have done more for our society than our society has done for you.


    +1


  • #66
    Riskymove
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,903 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    just for clarity

    the payscale for a Garda is €25k up to €45k over 17 years


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  • #67
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    So what's he saying? That Gardai aren't paid enough or that they're in so much debt from trying to become mini property developers during the boom, that they can't afford to clothe their children?

    Surely for the banks to be lending them so much money they must've been on good salaries. Have their salaries really gone down that much since the recesison started?


  • #68
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    On any day of the week the Indo could run a story interviewing a person from any profession who are feeling the pinch. Garda, nurses, teachers, plumbers, sheet metal workers, IT managers, property developers....

    Don't know why they published this and what the purpose of it is. The time for these types of stories is normally before the budget or some wage negotiations.

    At least he is not moaning about having to borrow the money to get the dishwasher fixed like that muppet last year.


  • #69
    Boaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Boaty


    Eight Ball wrote: »
    Must be hard being on 65k a year after 10yrs service with a gold plated pension at the end of it. I know people who would give their left bollox for a package like that.

    I don't know where you pulled that from, I know a friend, who after 32 years of service is on 64,000


  • #70
    Hootanany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Boaty wrote: »
    I don't know where you pulled that from, I know a friend, who after 32 years of service is on 64,000

    + allowances :cool:


  • #71
    Boaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 615 ✭✭✭Boaty


    Hootanany wrote: »
    + allowances :cool:

    Afraid not. 64k including allowances.


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  • #72
    Balmed Out
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,710 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Some awful crap written about guards on this thread. If it was so good we'd have all tried to become guards.
    That said I hate listening to complaints about not having money and laying blame left, right and center when the reason is you bought too many houses.


  • #73
    goose2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    just_be_nice wrote: »
    Nurses, teachers, guards, the foundations of our society. If you are one of these then likely you have done more for our society than our society has done for you.

    Why them? I mean, what about cleaners or truck drivers or binmen? Country wouldn't do to well without them either


  • #74
    Cd_doe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Cd_doe


    goose2005 wrote: »
    Why them? I mean, what about cleaners or truck drivers or binmen? Country wouldn't do to well without them either

    Don't think you can compare the work of a nurse to the work of a cleaner...
    That's just stooopid

    Or compare a garda to a truck driver...


  • #75
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    jamesbondings wrote: »
    Arm them. They won't face these difficulties for long.......
    because where their is armed police, theirs no crime, delusianel nonsense

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #76
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Cd_doe wrote: »
    Don't think you can compare the work of a nurse to the work of a cleaner...
    That's just stooopid

    Or compare a garda to a truck driver...

    All jobs are important in their own way, some more than others. But a jobs importance to the fabric of society should not be bandied about as a reason for getting special treatment.


  • #77
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Eight Ball wrote: »
    Must be hard being on 65k a year after 10yrs service with a gold plated pension at the end of it. I know people who would give their left bollox for a package like that.
    yet they didn't bother to apply and go through the training, wonder why?

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #78
    Menas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    end of the road wrote: »
    yet they didn't bother to apply and go through the training, wonder why?

    Because not everyone likes Coppers ?


  • #79
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,006 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    SimonQuinlank wrote: »
    Sitting around watching TV for good portions of a shift,snooping on neigbours on PULSE,taxi-ing superiors to pubs and family members home from nights out when supposedly on patrol,not arsed walking the beat because its cold,free or heavily discounted meals on duty,free use of public transport off duty,€57k PA basic,massive pension,virtually unsackable.

    Heartbreaking stuff alright.
    LOL, such laughable nonsense

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #80
    Soft Falling Rain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    just_be_nice wrote: »
    Nurses, teachers, guards, the foundations of our society. If you are one of these then likely you have done more for our society than our society has done for you.
    Such an attitude can lead to a slippery slope. No-one is above another due to the respective jobs that they do.


  • #81
    just_be_nice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭just_be_nice


    goose2005 wrote: »
    Why them? I mean, what about cleaners or truck drivers or binmen? Country wouldn't do to well without them either

    I believe that health, education and safety are the cornerstones of a good society. I believe that nurses, teachers and guards are the largest contributors in achieving these aims.
    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    All jobs are important in their own way, some more than others. But a jobs importance to the fabric of society should not be bandied about as a reason for getting special treatment.

    I disagree. I think that nurses especially should be given special treatment, much better pay for one. (Not looking for debate on where the money will come from etc. just think it's a gravely underappreciated and underpaid role).


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  • #82
    NinjaTruncs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭NinjaTruncs


    Daidy2011 wrote: »
    Wickowstevo - my apologies if you thought I was being argumentative that was not my intention.

    My interpretation of your post was that in a 10 day cycle, 6 on/4 off, the average garda works 60 hours. A 10 day cycle equates to 2 x 5 day weeks, I divided 60/2 and got 30/week - hence the question.

    I calculate it as a 42 hour working week, albeit crammed into short period.

    4.3kWp South facing PV System. South Dublin



  • #83
    Heisenberg1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Heisenberg1


    end of the road wrote: »
    LOL, such laughable nonsense

    I have witnessed all that poster has outlined.


  • #84
    Boombastic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    just_be_nice wrote: »
    I believe that health, education and safety are the cornerstones of a good society. I believe that nurses, teachers and guards are the largest contributors in achieving these aims.



    I disagree. I think that nurses especially should be given special treatment, much better pay for one. (Not looking for debate on where the money will come from etc. just think it's a gravely underappreciated and underpaid role).

    I think parents are bigger contributers


  • #85
    Heisenberg1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,511 ✭✭✭Heisenberg1


    Riskymove wrote: »
    just for clarity

    the payscale for a Garda is €25k up to €45k over 17 years

    That's the basic pay now list all the allowances that there paid on top of this.


  • #86
    just_be_nice
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭just_be_nice


    Soft Falling Rain wrote: »
    Such an attitude can lead to a slippery slope. No-one is above another due to the respective jobs that they do.

    In terms of their job roles, they are. :confused:


  • #87
    wicklowstevo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 919 ✭✭✭wicklowstevo


    NinjaTruncs wrote: »
    I calculate it as a 42 hour working week, albeit crammed into short period.



    it depends how you look at it true, but if I was to start work at for example seven o clock this morning I would work till 5 pm today and tomorrow , and 12 noon till 10 pm Friday and Saturday and then 9 pm till 7 am Sunday and Monday finishing Tuesday morning at 7am , Tuesday is counted as a day off. then back in for satuarday, that is assuming of course that there's no court to attend or other unpayed haddington road days to be worked.


  • #88
    Cd_doe
    Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Cd_doe


    Boombastic wrote: »
    I think parents are bigger contributers

    That's not an occupation.

    We were talking about occupation that contribute.


  • #89
    Zed Bank
    Closed Accounts Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Zed Bank


    If he thinks its bad here I wouldn't know how he would cope in the state's!


  • #90
    Hello_MrFox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 201 ✭✭Hello_MrFox


    Does anyone know how much the starting salary is?


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  • #91
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Hello_MrFox wrote: »
    Does anyone know how much the starting salary is?

    At this stage of the thread anywhere from 50 euros to 300k with allowances varying from "your own donut factory to a posting in Disneyland"


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