illegal nightclub?

dd972 · 17-11-2013 02:50PM

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Damn right they are too. And why doesn't Ikea open till 10.30 or 11am? And why can't we buy beer after 10pm in the shops? And why do we need to go in to get a tax disc - online, no questions asked, it's a bill, not a priveledge.

This country has a lot of questions to answer. Personally, I blame Ray D'Arcy.

+1,

should we make Personally, I blame Ray D'Arcy a tagline for every boards.ie post as well :pac:

Muahahaha · 17-11-2013 02:56PM

hfallada wrote: »

It's most likely a warehouse party. Twenty something's can't understand why clubs must close at 3am, when they are open pretty much everywhere else in Europe at that hour.

Was just in Jakarta, Indonesia a few days ago. Indonesia is the worlds most populous Muslim country yet the main nightclub in the city (Stadium) holds 5,000 people over 6 floors and it opens at 4pm on a Thursday and goes straight through to 8am the following Monday morning. Even a Muslim countries nightlife puts Dublin to shame :mad:

minidazzler · 17-11-2013 02:58PM

kneemos wrote: »

Nobody mentioned staggered closing times just early as opposed to late.

We've had this argument before. You are an exhausting human being.

foggy_lad · 17-11-2013 03:25PM

The problem with all night opening/drinking in Dublin/Ireland is the cost of keeping the venues staffed and policed for those extra hours, There would also have to be a significant cost to obtain an all night licence for any venue to cover the extra resources that would have to be laid on like police and medical staff. Those extra costs will significantly impact on admission and drinks prices meaning that people will not frequent the official legal establishments and those places will be forced to revert to their normal 2am closing or close down altogether.

17-11-2013 03:33PM

minidazzler wrote: »

We've had this argument before. You are an exhausting human being.

Mod

Attack the posts and not the poster please.

BillyMitchel · 17-11-2013 03:38PM

Thanks for the heads up OP. I'm not too far away, that's next Saturday night sorted

minidazzler · 17-11-2013 04:14PM

foggy_lad wrote: »

The problem with all night opening/drinking in Dublin/Ireland is the cost of keeping the venues staffed and policed for those extra hours, There would also have to be a significant cost to obtain an all night licence for any venue to cover the extra resources that would have to be laid on like police and medical staff. Those extra costs will significantly impact on admission and drinks prices meaning that people will not frequent the official legal establishments and those places will be forced to revert to their normal 2am closing or close down altogether.

There is no evidence to support this at all. Every single Saturday night when I finish work there are dozens of people in the club I work asking for Lock-ins. They are told no, regardless of if they are sober or not, or if they have money to spend. I imagine the same happens in every late bar/nightclub. So, if those people had a place to go, or 2 places to go to forgo monopolies, how would that be a bad thing?

I'd happily work til 7-8 am in a night club if I could. But illegal raves pay very little.

MadsL · 17-11-2013 04:21PM

If you are taking drink to a rave you are doing it wrong. Source: being an adult in the 90s...

suicide_circus · 17-11-2013 04:52PM

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kneemos · 17-11-2013 05:04PM

minidazzler wrote: »

We've had this argument before. You are an exhausting human being.

Don't remember.
Mistaking me for someone else l think boss.

Lambsbread · 17-11-2013 05:19PM

One of things I love about living on the continent are the late closing hours. You can stay out and enjoy your drinks and are not pressured by closing times. No mentality like "Oh s**t, the bar closes in 15 mins, I better buy 5 shots to make sure I am drunk". Stay out till 5 am and enjoy a few drinks and get the first metro home

To be honest you do see the same level of drunk people around, but there is no rush of 500 people down to the chipper or queuing for taxis.

They should try it in Ireland, it could be chaos for the first few weeks but people will adjust for a far better drinking culture.

end of the road · 17-11-2013 06:13PM

kneemos wrote: »

If twenty somethings didn't end up comatosed in A+E maybe the clubs would'nt have to close at 3am.

yeah because closing the clubs at 2 or 3 AM really solves that problem, same as closing the offlicences at 10 PM, shur theirs no drunks on the street, its all this nanny state nonsense that has caused all this in the first place, had pubs been left to open and close when they wished, same with clubs/dance halls along with good education then their wouldn't be such a problem, remove the rules and let pubs clubs and so on close when they want, people ending up in A&E will happen and no nanny state laws will sort or solve it.

end of the road · 17-11-2013 06:16PM

kneemos wrote: »

The purpose of early closing is to limit the damage.

which it fails spectacularly at doing

end of the road · 17-11-2013 06:19PM

kneemos wrote: »

So what difference does it make then.

a little thing called choice? better then nanny state laws that only exasserbate any problems

dundalkfc10 · 17-11-2013 06:26PM

minidazzler wrote: »

There is no evidence to support this at all. Every single Saturday night when I finish work there are dozens of people in the club I work asking for Lock-ins. They are told no, regardless of if they are sober or not, or if they have money to spend. I imagine the same happens in every late bar/nightclub. So, if those people had a place to go, or 2 places to go to forgo monopolies, how would that be a bad thing?

I'd happily work til 7-8 am in a night club if I could. But illegal raves pay very little.

Only in Dundalk, they do have late bars/lock ins in the nightclubs

Spook_ie · 17-11-2013 10:56PM

Lambsbread wrote: »

One of things I love about living on the continent are the late closing hours. You can stay out and enjoy your drinks and are not pressured by closing times. No mentality like "Oh s**t, the bar closes in 15 mins, I better buy 5 shots to make sure I am drunk". Stay out till 5 am and enjoy a few drinks and get the first metro home

To be honest you do see the same level of drunk people around, but there is no rush of 500 people down to the chipper or queuing for taxis.

They should try it in Ireland, it could be chaos for the first few weeks but people will adjust for a far better drinking culture.

That one sentence just about covers it, why is it that Irish/English youth seem to think that getting ratarsed is the way to enjoy a night?

nocoverart · 17-11-2013 11:15PM

Illegal nightclubs LOL! they were called raves in my day. If I wasn't in my 30's i'd love to attend one of these "illegal nightclubs" myself. OP, you sound a bit of a drip in all fairness.

mardybumbum · 17-11-2013 11:31PM

How has this descended into a discussion on alcohol licences?
The only thing being drank at these afterparties is lots of delicious cold water.

we'llallhavetea · 18-11-2013 12:08AM

I need to go to this "illegal nightclub" and unce to the early morning with like minded sweaty people that love me and I them

NuckingFacker · 18-11-2013 12:39AM

kneemos wrote: »

If twenty somethings didn't end up comatosed in A+E maybe the clubs would'nt have to close at 3am.

Once those 20 "somthings" have done it a couple of times, the novelty will wear off. It's a bit like the Cadburys effect; Imagining how brilliant it would be to work in Cadburys, and be able to eat all the chocolate you want; get the job, get thoroughly sick on chocolate, stop binge eating chocolate.

There's also a "scarcity" mentality to irish drinking - "quick, down the pints before they shut". If they didn't shut, there's no rush.

JONJO THE MISER · 18-11-2013 01:43AM

allthedoyles wrote: »

Down our neck of the woods they are usually leaving the premises , just as the old folks are heading into 8am Mass .

After 9am is a bit late in the day for this carry-on

Same here once it hits after 7AM the barman wont serve anymore, have to go home before the people who go to work start there commute.

finnharpsboy · 18-11-2013 07:08AM

nocoverart wrote: »

Illegal nightclubs LOL! they were called raves in my day. If I wasn't in my 30's i'd love to attend one of these "illegal nightclubs" myself. OP, you sound a bit of a drip in all fairness.

Its an invite im after lol was passing half hour ago and it was on again. I even gave some a lift

pundy · 18-11-2013 03:26PM

Lambsbread wrote: »

One of things I love about living on the continent are the late closing hours. You can stay out and enjoy your drinks and are not pressured by closing times. No mentality like "Oh s**t, the bar closes in 15 mins, I better buy 5 shots to make sure I am drunk". Stay out till 5 am and enjoy a few drinks and get the first metro home

To be honest you do see the same level of drunk people around, but there is no rush of 500 people down to the chipper or queuing for taxis.

They should try it in Ireland, it could be chaos for the first few weeks but people will adjust for a far better drinking culture.

they did try it - the clubs in Dublin used to be open until 6am about 10 years ago. "Spirit" the Gaiety and a few other late clubs/bars would be open until 4, 5 or 6....

it didnt work.

end of the road · 18-11-2013 04:20PM

pundy wrote: »

they did try it - the clubs in Dublin used to be open until 6am about 10 years ago. "Spirit" the Gaiety and a few other late clubs/bars would be open until 4, 5 or 6....

it didnt work.

how didn't it work? their were still drunk people on the streets? well when you go from nanny state laws and an attitude of "ah shur holy god we can't have that" to the opposite their will be problems, either way it should be tried again but this time permenantly, the current system doesn't work either, a few less people on the streets is better then everyone on the streets at the same time

daveyeh · 18-11-2013 04:27PM

minidazzler wrote: »

We've had this argument before. You are an exhausting human being.

What does this comment make you?

pundy · 18-11-2013 04:30PM

end of the road wrote: »

how didn't it work? their were still drunk people on the streets? well when you go from nanny state laws and an attitude of "ah shur holy god we can't have that" to the opposite their will be problems, either way it should be tried again but this time permenantly, the current system doesn't work either, a few less people on the streets is better then everyone on the streets at the same time

yeah i totally agree. just saying it didnt work, which is the same as it is now. that doesn't work either. neither does.

it's us gobsh!tes that have to change, not the opening hours.

kowloon · 18-11-2013 05:13PM

electrobanana wrote: »

Not really it means everybody get lashed earlier and then they all get thrown out on the street at the same time and that's when chaos ensues.

I've always thought it was insane that so many people get turfed out at the same time. Any urban area is a mess come closing time.

liamygunner29 · 18-11-2013 05:17PM

Shhhhhhhh innocent boy.

Shout Dust · 18-11-2013 05:20PM

pundy wrote: »

they did try it - the clubs in Dublin used to be open until 6am about 10 years ago. "Spirit" the Gaiety and a few other late clubs/bars would be open until 4, 5 or 6....

it didnt work.

There are still some in Dublin that stay open late in the last few years, Coppers is nearly always on until 3:30-4, a few others till around 3:30, the Village and Whelans seem to be on weekends anyway, Everleighs seems to keep going till 5 or after. Outside of those few though every else seems to be 2-2:30

pundy · 18-11-2013 05:24PM

Shout Dust wrote: »

There are still some in Dublin that stay open late in the last few years, Coppers is nearly always on until 3:30-4, a few others till around 3:30, the Village and Whelans seem to be on weekends anyway, Everleighs seems to keep going till 5 or after. Outside of those few though every else seems to be 2-2:30

well there you go so, it must be "available" to certain clubs/bars, and many have been open late in the past and must know that it doesnt work for them.

i can understand why places up around Wexford Street stagger their opening hours - because it's mayhem up there in the daytime, let alone when crowds of hipsters and culchies in shirts and shoes pour out of every doorway hammered!

surprising all the same though - think it's a different sort of loophole/licence though - maybe is it that they have to have a stage/performance area and they can then designate as "theatre" which i believe is allowed to operate with a bar until 4am...

illegal nightclub?

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