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Varadkar to unveil bid to bring Rugby World Cup to Ireland

  • 18-11-2013 01:35PM
    #1
    jamo2oo9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Came across this in the Irish Independent this morning and it sparked some interest.
    Varadkar to unveil bid to bring Rugby World Cup to Ireland

    What are your thoughts about this?
    I personally would love to see this happen but I don't know whether if we can get it and could we afford it too. As of now, our opposition is South Africa but of course, there are many more to come as the deadline isn't till 2016.



    Here's a quote of it for those who are on mobile
    Transport Minister Leo Varadkar is to brief the Cabinet tomorrow about the new feasibility study, which reveals that the tournament would bring in an additional 337,000 visitors.

    Consultants Deloitte said in its study that it would be "realistic" to have a cross-border bid. It said there were sufficient stadiums in the country, given that the GAA had voted last March to allow Croke Park and other GAA stadiums to be used as part of a bid.

    A government source said this was in addition to rugby stadiums such as the Aviva, Thomond Park in Limerick and Ravenhill in Belfast.

    "The key benchmark is New Zealand, which is of comparable size and population. They used a diversity of stadiums to deliver the last Rugby World Cup," he said.

    The Government will have to decide on making a bid before the deadline of 2016. The winner will be announced in 2017.

    There would be a requirement for a financial commitment from the State towards a tournament company to run the competition.

    But the government source said the study was "quite positive" on this aspect and had predicted that a surplus would be made.

    The next Rugby World Cup will be held in England in 2015, followed by Japan in 2019. South Africa is expected to bid for the 2023 World Cup, but due to the rotation system in operation, a country like Ireland in the northern hemisphere is expected to be favoured.

    The study puts the overall economic benefit of the Rugby World Cup at €800m.


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Comments

  • #2
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    little leo has more important things to be worrying about.


  • #3
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Fair play. Sounds like a good idea.

    Am I right in thinking it was the Off The Ball fellas on NEwstalk who first gave this idea a big push? Or was a movement already underway at that stage?


  • #4
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Love to see it happen and the economic benefits would be huge.
    Fair play to Leo for rowing in behind it.


  • #5
    jamo2oo9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭jamo2oo9


    Bambi wrote: »
    little leo has more important things to be worrying about.

    Like what? Yes, he has to worry about the transport network and what not but this coming to Ireland could bring in about €800m which would be a massive boast to our economy and a big boast in the tourism sector.


  • #6
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Would have no interest in the tournament, but I can see the potential economic effects as a good positive, would be good to see.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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  • #7
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Great idea.

    Positives greatly out weigh any whinging the begrudgers will trot out.

    Hope we get it.


  • #8
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,956 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Why does everyone boil it down to the economy.

    Having a Rugby World Cup here would be great for other reasons than just economical.


  • #9
    kowloon
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    No interest in Rugby, but if it brings in more than it costs to host and we can come up with the initial outlay, what's the problem?


  • #10
    keith16
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    Not sure it will happen tbh....IRB needs to grow the game outside of the traditional strongholds.

    Would love to see it happen.


  • #11
    super_furry
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    Buy shares in Dubarry and Heineken loike now, gois!


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  • #12
    Eight Ball
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    Well if Qatar got the football world cup then I suppose anything is possible.


  • #13
    Artful_Badger
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    Would be great to get it and from what I hear its a real possibility what with some of the big contenders having held it too recent to be likely to get it again so soon and the fact Ireland are a founding IRB nation and have a bit of clout voting wise.


  • #14
    pedanticpat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭pedanticpat


    I'd like to see Ireland/Wales do it. We don't have the infrastructure for the whole thing, but with Wales on board, we'd do a fine job.


  • #15
    melekalikimaka
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    aside from Landsdowne and Croker, nowhere has the capacity to cater for big games. Raven Hill while just done up doesn't cut it, its barely the size of the RDS now and Thomond wouldnt be a great stadium to host international games IMO. A split maybe with Wales would make more sense, maybe even Bonny Scotland


  • #16
    Matt_Trakker
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    Don't countries make a loss when they host something like this?

    If it's going to turn a profit I've no issue whatsoever, but usually countries make a loss on things like this.


  • #17
    Artful_Badger
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    There's a thread in the rugby forum about if from a while back. The OP makes a pretty decent argument as to why its very possible.


  • #18
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Realistically it is possible - you'd get by with five, maybe six stadiums. The Aviva, Croke Park and Thomond (for smaller group games) would all be ready to go now. Spend money upgrading say - Ravenhill and Tallaght Stadium and that's five stadiums ready. If needs be you could hopefully call on Semple Stadium or Páirc Uí Chaoimh.


  • #19
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,832 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Why does everyone boil it down to the economy.

    Having a Rugby World Cup here would be great for other reasons than just economical.

    Aussie and Argentinian women visiting our shores being just one of them. Hubba hubba !


  • #20
    drumswan
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    melekalikimaka wrote: »
    aside from Landsdowne and Croker, nowhere has the capacity to cater for big games.
    Its Rugby, there arent that many big games.


  • #21
    Podge_irl
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    Matt_Trakker wrote: »
    Don't countries make a loss when they host something like this?

    If it's going to turn a profit I've no issue whatsoever, but usually countries make a loss on things like this.

    Its quite possible a loss would be made on the tournament itself but the ancillary benefits from both the investment in infrastructure and the influx of people would vastly outweigh any costs.

    The GAA have already voted to allow their stadia to be used.


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  • #22
    Shedite27
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    keith16 wrote: »
    Not sure it will happen tbh....IRB needs to grow the game outside of the traditional strongholds.
    Would think Italy would be in with a good shout.


  • #23
    melekalikimaka
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    drumswan wrote: »
    Its Rugby, there arent that many big games.

    ireland england scotland wales new zealand south africa argentina Italy then the island teams, usa/canada, emerging nations like gerogia spain portugal and russia would pull in crowds.


  • #24
    keano_afc
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    Eight Ball wrote: »
    Well if Qatar got the football world cup then I suppose anything is possible.

    Yes but that was through corruption*

    Having the world cup here would be great.







    *allegedly


  • #25
    super_furry
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    It's on! http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/irish-international/2013/1118/487426-ireland-look-set-to-launch-rugby-world-cup-bid/


  • #26
    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    Croker, the Aviva and Thomond Park are obvious ones, Gaelic Grounds, Fitzgerald Stadium and even Nowlan Park could be used. Ravenhill with a little expansion also, and if Casement Park and Páirc Uí Caoimh get their prosposed rebuilds they would both be excellent options. The likes of Semple Stadium and McHale Park, while good facilities, wouldn't be suitable because logically, you need each host stadium to be in a town or city with a large quota of hotel beds.


  • #27
    inforfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,860 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    For me as a foreigner...... would the GAA really give up stadiums so easily?
    Didnt go too smooth for the years Croke parc was needed while the Aviva was built, did it?


  • #28
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 34,038 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    inforfun wrote: »
    For me as a foreigner...... would the GAA really give up stadiums so easily?
    Didnt go too smooth for the years Croke parc was needed while the Aviva was built, did it?

    It went incredibly smoothly :confused:

    The GAA have already agreed to their stadia being used.


  • #29
    [Deleted User]
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    Love this line:

    "The next Rugby World Cup will be held in England in 2015, followed by Japan in 2019. South Africa is expected to bid for the 2023 World Cup, but due to the rotation system in operation, a country like Ireland in the northern hemisphere is expected to be favoured."

    Which hemisphere do they think Japan is in?!?

    All in favour of the idea.


  • #30
    spank_inferno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,884 ✭✭✭spank_inferno


    Bambi wrote: »
    little leo has more important things to be worrying about.

    Does he?

    Like what?


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  • #31
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    jamo2oo9 wrote: »
    Like what? Yes, he has to worry about the transport network and what not but this coming to Ireland could bring in about €800m which would be a massive boast to our economy and a big boast in the tourism sector.


    And after that he should team up with fellow blueshirt gay mitchell to bring the olympics here.

    These schemes are a politicians crack pipe. You just end up with a massive bill


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