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Outrage over Lion Pic Killer

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  • #32
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Not sure what your point is. Do you think we should have these 'hunt parks' to stop folks illegally hunting in surrounding areas?

    Are you saying people are hypocrites for disagreeing with the above? Or that they're hypocrites based on previous points if they eat meat?

    Ethically I have issues with people hunting exotic big game like this as it's clearly for a thrill. Reminds me of British colonial hunters from times past with giant elephant guns - similar hunts have now lead to species facing extinction. It's definitely not a pass-time which should be promoted.

    They're hypocrites because they'll preach about conservation and how it's bad to hunt for trophies, while not having the faintest fcuking idea about what they're on about.

    Trophy hunting like this actually goes towards improving conservation

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/03/070315-hunting-africa.html

    I'm not saying I agree with it fwiw, and in an ideal world no big game would be hunted.. but we don't live in an ideal world, and it is.


  • #33
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    would there be the same outrage if said lion mauls a family of local villagers to death ? or would that just be nature ? i forget were not part of nature are we ? i forget too what does a predator do that is on top of the food chain ?

    Don't condone what she did just pointing out facts


  • #34
    Mena
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,178 ✭✭✭Mena


    This is canned hunting and it's a fuking disgrace.

    http://www.bornfree.org.uk/campaigns/further-activities/canned-hunting/


  • #35
    Xeyn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Xeyn


    A Primal Nut wrote: »
    Bear in mind that these particular animals are bred to be hunted. Their numbers in these parks are controlled and it acts a profitable incentive for these animals to continue to exist.

    She didn't kill a wild lion in the middle of nowhere.

    That said, I don't see what skill/thrill there is in shooting a large, probably stationary animal.

    Glorifying it instead of representing what it actually is is a much bigger problem. It costs a lot for the US big game hunters to come to Africa to hunt. Do you think that this sort of publicity she courts will make people more or less likely to try and 'get some of the action' even if they do it 'on the cheap/illegally'


  • #36
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,506 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Looks like she Killed Christian, hang her high.


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  • #37
    Xeyn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Xeyn


    My name is URL wrote: »
    They're hypocrites because they'll preach about conservation and how it's bad to hunt for trophies, while not having the faintest fcuking idea about what they're on about.

    Trophy hunting like this actually goes towards improving conservation

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/03/070315-hunting-africa.html

    I'm not saying I agree with it fwiw, and in an ideal world no big game would be hunted.. but we don't live in an ideal world, and it is.

    I wouldnt go around calling people hypocrites without all the facts. There is no consensus that trophy hunting is needed for conservation. It constitutes a very small percentage of conservation funds. If it died out tomorrow, conservation would not end.


  • #38
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Personally I think it's a terrible thing to do and a shame of an absolutely gorgeous animal.

    However I remember talking to a game ranger in South Africa how he felt about hunting. He told me that while he really doesn't think it's a great thing it needs to be put in perspective. Some of these 'hunters' can pay enormous amounts of money for the privilege of shooting a lion (he mentioned a sum of 30000 USD). Money which in turn can get used for conservation and breeding schemes.

    So while it's a horrible waste of a gorgeous animal, if shooting a lion can fund a game reserve or conservation scheme for a while....

    I can't understand what the attraction in shooting an animal just for the sake of shooting it though.


  • #39
    Eight Ball
    Closed Accounts Posts: 906 ✭✭✭Eight Ball


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    would there be the same outrage if said lion mauls a family of local villagers to death ? or would that just be nature ? i forget were not part of nature are we ? i forget too what does a predator do that is on top of the food chain ?

    Don't condone what she did just pointing out facts

    What?


  • #40
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Kaiser2000 wrote: »
    Wait now.. weren't you the one yesterday who thought it was grand to make jokes on the Batkid thread

    Whoops...

    Whoops again!

    I'm sure there's a point in there some where but I'm afraid it only makes sense to you.


  • #41
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Eight Ball wrote: »
    What?

    Good old fake moral outrage lets see you not reach for a gun if you or a family member is about to be pounced on by a lion ?


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  • #42
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    would there be the same outrage if said lion mauls a family of local villagers to death ? or would that just be nature ? i forget were not part of nature are we ? i forget too what does a predator do that is on top of the food chain ?

    Don't condone what she did just pointing out facts
    This has nothing to do with the food chain. She's not going to eat the lion.

    Lions kill for food. They don't kill just for the sake of it and then post a picture of a dead gazelle on Twitter.


  • #43
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Good old fake moral outrage lets see you not reach for a gun if you or a family member is about to be pounced on by a lion ?
    If a lion ever got the chance he'd kill you and everyone you care about.


  • #44
    Kylo Ren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    Where you come from is it? I'm not all that interested in your private life tbh.
    An introduced, alien, exotic, non-indigenous, or non-native species, or simply an introduction, is a species living outside its native distributional range, which has arrived there by human activity, either deliberate or accidental.

    Cows came from Turkey and Iraq.


  • #45
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Irish Guitarist wrote: »
    This has nothing to do with the food chain. She's not going to eat the lion.

    Lions kill for food. They don't kill just for the sake of it and then post a picture of a dead gazelle on Twitter.

    Good thing we don't have lions in Ireland seems you think there poor defenceless animals im sure if a group of them were outside your house you would let the kids out to pet them ? and were the apex predator deal with it we kill everything else. And if lions only kill for food why when they take over another pride they kill all the young from the previous alpha ?

    as i said i don't condone what she did.


  • #46
    Xeyn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Xeyn


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Good thing we don't have lions in Ireland seems you think there poor defenceless animals im sure if a group of them were outside your house you would let the kids out to pet them ? and were the apex predator deal with it we kill everything else. And if lions only kill for food why when they take over another pride then kill all the young from the previous alpha ?

    as i said i don't condone what she did.

    Who said lions are defenceless? They are when it comes to a 'fixed hunt' where there can only be one outcome- the lions death.
    I dont understand how people can take pride in their 'hunting skills' when the conclusion is predetermined.


  • #47
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Xeyn wrote: »
    Who said lions are defenceless? They are when it comes to a 'fixed hunt' where there can only be one outcome- the lions death.
    I dont understand how people can take pride in their 'hunting skills' when the conclusion is predetermined.

    So it would be ok if it was not fixed ?


  • #48
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    you think there poor defenceless animals im sure if a group of them were outside your house you would let the kids out to pet them ? and were the apex predator deal with it we kill everything else. And if lions only kill for food why when they take over another pride they kill all the young from the previous alpha ?

    What, in the name of muppetry, are you banging on about?


  • #49
    valerossi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭valerossi


    I heard that Lion got what he had coming rumour had it he was an absentee father, never provided for the kids and had several females on the go.
    Also heard he was claiming benefits while doing foxes on the side.
    Apparently he was talking smack about women too saying they cant shoot for sh*t, looks like he was wrong.


  • #50
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I honestly don't see the big deal to this.
    We kill animals for food. Actually, we breed and THEN kill animals for food. We kill animals for clothing.


  • #51
    wazky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    I honestly don't see the big deal to this.
    We kill animals for food. Actually, we breed and THEN kill animals for food. We kill animals for clothing.

    2 problems: She ain't gonna eat it and she ain't gonna wear it.

    Wears your logic now?


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  • #52
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    I honestly don't see the big deal to this.
    We kill animals for food. Actually, we breed and THEN kill animals for food. We kill animals for clothing.

    we breed cage stun then cut up for food and clothing people seem to forget this. Wonder if they would still moan if they were given a spear and told to go catch dinner .


  • #53
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    wazky wrote: »
    2 problems: She ain't gonna eat it and she ain't gonna wear it.

    Wears your logic now?

    so it would be ok if she did both ?


  • #54
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,605 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    If it was a Warthog in fairness I doubt many would care.


  • #55
    goose2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Irish Guitarist wrote: »
    This has nothing to do with the food chain. She's not going to eat the lion.

    Lions kill for food. They don't kill just for the sake of it and then post a picture of a dead gazelle on Twitter.

    Why does eating what you kill make it moral?


  • #56
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    kneemos wrote: »
    If it was a Warthog in fairness I doubt many would care.

    or rats in your house or mice or cockroaches


  • #57
    Xeyn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭Xeyn


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    So it would be ok if it was not fixed ?

    What? you are the one who claimed the animals are or are not defenceless. Fixed hunting means they are essentially defenceless. I fail to see your point.


  • #58
    wazky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    so it would be ok if she did both ?

    Well no because I thought Lions were endangered?, but your hypothetical question is very.... hypothetical.


  • #59
    Mint Aero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Muuuuuufasa!!!!! :(


  • #60
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Xeyn wrote: »
    What? you are the one who claimed the animals are or are not defenceless. Fixed hunting means they are essentially defenceless. I fail to see your point.

    if she had no gun the outcome would be the same ? even if it was fixed ?


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  • #61
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    wazky wrote: »
    Well no because I thought Lions were endangered?, but your hypothetical question is very.... hypothetical.

    ahh so killing millions of chickens cows is ok as there not endangered ?


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