25% of Irish men in their 20s have slept with another man

ancapailldorcha · 15-11-2013 11:03AM

In a country where the population is a few million, I would hesitate to call 1,000 a statistically significant study population.

Dyr · 15-11-2013 11:06AM

Couldnt care less what men are doing, why arent they asking de wimminz this question?

Stuart085 · 15-11-2013 11:07AM

What difference does it make? There isn't anything wrong with it, it isn't anything to take offence over. Each to their own.

Dyr · 15-11-2013 11:15AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

and a couple of same sex experiences does not a gay man nor lesbian woman make!

"I'm taking it up the swiss off another fella but I'm not gay"

fair enough

ancapailldorcha · 15-11-2013 11:25AM

Bambi wrote: »

Couldnt care less what men are doing, why arent they asking de wimminz this question?

That'd be sexist.

Czarcasm · 15-11-2013 11:28AM

Bambi wrote: »

Couldnt care less what men are doing, why arent they asking de wimminz this question?

Bambi wrote: »

"I'm taking it up the swiss off another fella but I'm not gay"

fair enough

You didn't read the article linked in the OP then?

It shows that 15pc of men in their thirties – or one in seven – had a same-sex experience, but just 4pc identify themselves as homosexual. For women, 13pc had a same-sex encounter, but just 1pc identified themselves as lesbian.

Overall, 87pc of the 1,000 people surveyed said they were straight (82pc of men and 91pc of women), another 3pc said they were gay (4pc of men and 1pc of women) while 4pc were bisexual (4pc of men and 3pc of women).

Dyr · 15-11-2013 11:34AM

Czarcasm wrote: »

You didn't read the article linked in the OP then?

I'm noty clicking on an indo link :P

15-11-2013 11:35AM

Why would they identify as homosexual/lesbian if they're bi anyway

folan · 15-11-2013 11:40AM

ride whoever you want, i dont care.

Baked.noodle · 15-11-2013 11:41AM

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Grayson · 15-11-2013 11:51AM

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

In a country where the population is a few million, I would hesitate to call 1,000 a statistically significant study population.

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

With a population of 4 million you need 384 polled to be 95% accuract with a confidence of 5%

mathie · 15-11-2013 12:03PM

endacl wrote: »

Why 'dirty'?

Poop-chute sex.

Next question.

DeVore · 15-11-2013 12:12PM

Grayson wrote: »

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

With a population of 4 million you need 384 polled to be 95% accuract with a confidence of 5%

This.

General election polls are run on sample sizes of 500-1000 people. You'd be very surprised how quickly a question with a simple answer (like this) converges to a high accuracy and confidence.

oppenheimer1 · 15-11-2013 12:21PM

DeVore wrote: »

This.

General election polls are run on sample sizes of 500-1000 people. You'd be very surprised how quickly a question with a simple answer (like this) converges to a high accuracy and confidence.

The problem is though the question doesn't have a simple answer. The answer is open to interpretation, what exactly is a same sex experience?

Czarcasm · 15-11-2013 12:24PM

Grayson wrote: »

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

With a population of 4 million you need 384 polled to be 95% accuract with a confidence of 5%

DeVore wrote: »

This.

General election polls are run on sample sizes of 500-1000 people. You'd be very surprised how quickly a question with a simple answer (like this) converges to a high accuracy and confidence.

The full Survey itself was published in the Sunday Independent last week, makes for interesting reading, but it's the way the data is being interpreted to create headlines is a bit funky tbh.

Summary of findings relating to the topic of Sex and Relationships & No Strings:
90% of 30 somethings are interested in having a lasting relationship

35% of 30 somethings think that it is appropriate for young people to begin having sex at 17 years or younger and 33% think that 18 years of age is more appropriate. 14% of 30 somethings think young people should wait until 19 years of age or older.

The average 30 something has had 8.5 sexual partners, with just over 1 in 10 of them claiming more than 20 partners thus far

Roughly 1 in 7 of 30 somethings have had a same sex experience of some type in the past

87% of 30 somethings identify themselves as Heterosexual, 7% described themselves as either Gay or Bi-sexual, 1% as Asexual and 2% currently uncertain as to their own sexuality; 3% would rather not say

54% of Ireland’s 30 somethings acknowledge that they received adequate guidance from their parents about life, love, work and sex

When it comes to celebrity ‘no strings, actors beat the singers hands down. Our female 30 somethings singled out the likes of Brad Pitt, George Clooney and Johnny Depp, and their male counterparts picked Angelina Jolie, Mila Kunis, Scarlett Johannson and Sandra Bullock

The results of this survey are based upon a representative sample of 1,005 Irish adults aged 20-49 years.

As such, the results can be deemed to be accurate to within plus or minus 3.2 percentage points at the 95% confidence level.

Fieldwork was conducted over the period 18th – 24th October 2013, with interviewing carried out through the B&A Acumen, and Research Now online panels.

The sample was quota controlled by age, gender, social class (ABC1; C2DE) and region (Dublin; outside Dublin).

The results were subsequently weighted to known population estimates, based on the most recently available Central Statistics Office (CSO) population estimates.

All aspects of the survey were conducted in accordance with the technical and ethical guidelines set down by the Association of Irish Market Research Organisations (AIMRO) and European Society for Opinion and Market Research (ESOMAR)

Source: Summary of findings relating to the topic of Sex and Relationships & No Strings (From the Today FM Website, I can't find the full survey published online)

RDM_83 again · 15-11-2013 12:28PM

DeVore wrote: »

This.

General election polls are run on sample sizes of 500-1000 people. You'd be very surprised how quickly a question with a simple answer (like this) converges to a high accuracy and confidence.

Its easy to make the figure statistically significant, its harder to have achieve an actually representative sample population.

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

3somes and group sex would count. Thought it would be higher than 25%

The survey is just says a sexual experience so I presume it would include a man having kissed another man, which IMO probably makes the figures believable.

the article does say this

"Some 15pc of those in higher income categories had a night with someone of the same sex, compared with 13pc from lower incomes"

which is higher than I'd have thought but not massively e.g I'd have thought 10% of the population would be bi or gay.

what surprises a lot me is that more men than woman responded yes to this perhaps the fact its more social acceptable for woman/girls to have a snog means that the respondents didn;t even consider it a sexual encounter.

For the record

CrazyRabbit · 15-11-2013 12:29PM

Hey, stop looking at my groin!

Dirty AH fecker's.

:P

Wacker The Attacker · 15-11-2013 12:30PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/men-are-more-likely-to-have-samesex-experiences-29749603.html

I'm usually loathe to reproduce anything by the Indo but in this instance it was a poll of 1,000 people so therefore statistically significant.

Results show that 13% of Irish men in their thirties have slept with another man. For Irish men in their 20s that rises to 25%, one in every four.

The poll doesn't specify exactly what is meant, it just says that 25% of Irish men in their 20s have had a sexual encounter with another man. I suppose in theory that could cover men who have had threesomes with another man and a girl.

Still though pretty surprising results, you big pack of dirty dogs !

I doubt it. Particularly when it comes to admitting that youve have gay sex in a national newspaper srticle.

JohnnyChimpo · 15-11-2013 01:02PM

Lot of people who've never taken a stats course in their lives in this thread, going off their "gut feeling" and fear of the ghey

Czarcasm · 15-11-2013 01:13PM

JohnnyChimpo wrote: »

Lot of people who've never taken a stats course in their lives in this thread, going off their "gut feeling" and fear of the ghey

Questioning the statistical method is homophobic now? When did that happen?

Or are you just making assumptions based off your own gut feeling? There's a term for that -

In psychology and cognitive science, confirmation bias (or confirmatory bias) is a tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions, leading to statistical errors.

Source: Science Daily

Feisar · 15-11-2013 01:16PM

I once drew in a game of gay chicken, does that count as a same sex experience?

doncarlos · 15-11-2013 01:44PM

Feisar wrote: »

I once drew in a game of gay chicken, does that count as a same sex experience?

Neither of you were the chicken?

Muahahaha · 15-11-2013 05:33PM

wendell borton wrote: »

Thread needs poll.

I tried to edit it there to add a poll but there was no longer an option to do so.

Mods would appreciate it if you amend it to include a poll. A private one preferably

Paddy Cow · 15-11-2013 06:02PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

If a telephone pollster asked you if you had slept with another man and you hadn't why would you lie about it ? What is there to be gained ?

Wind them up for being annoying and ringing in the first place.

beks101 · 15-11-2013 06:13PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

The figures are hardly surprising when you drill down into them (I've read the full survey in last weeks Sunday Independent), and a couple of same sex experiences does not a gay man nor lesbian woman make!

Ooooh matron.

'Sexual encounter' could obviously encapsulate a wide range of things, but I wouldn't necessarily dismiss this stat as absolute horse shyte. I personally know a few alpha male '100% straight' types who have fooled around and my gay mates will tell me they encounter them all the time.

I just think it's far, FAR more socially acceptable and even encouraged for women to be 'bi-curious' and explore their sexuality and it's then considered "hot", "adventurous", any number of positive things, whereas a man does the same and he's instantly "gay".

Stainless_Steel · 15-11-2013 06:19PM

Gross. Shiver.

Paramite Pie · 15-11-2013 06:28PM

Stainless_Steel wrote: »

Gross. Shiver.

Mature response.:pac:

I see yer shivering, ya need a man to hold ya?

Pug160 · 15-11-2013 06:35PM

One in four is a lot, even if you take bisexuals into account. But who cares anyway though? This has no impact on my life or anyone else's.

YFlyer · 15-11-2013 06:40PM

Its likely the large number of group sex sessions are skewing these values.

Pug160 · 15-11-2013 06:49PM

beks101 wrote: »

Ooooh matron.

'Sexual encounter' could obviously encapsulate a wide range of things, but I wouldn't necessarily dismiss this stat as absolute horse shyte. I personally know a few alpha male '100% straight' types who have fooled around and my gay mates will tell me they encounter them all the time.

I just think it's far, FAR more socially acceptable and even encouraged for women to be 'bi-curious' and explore their sexuality and it's then considered "hot", "adventurous", any number of positive things, whereas a man does the same and he's instantly "gay".

I've heard of men who are not necessarily gay or bi having sexual encounters with pre and post op transsexuals. That's where things start to become a bit confusing, because some of those people look a lot like genuine women. Although, in my opinion, if it's with a pre op then the guy must have some sort of bi tendencies.

25% of Irish men in their 20s have slept with another man

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