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Nutritionist calls pregnant vegan "deluded" & "irresponsible"

  • 14-11-2013 09:44PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭


    This story seems to be popping up in quite a few places online today (1, 2, 3)

    A pregnant Australian woman who follows a strict vegan diet and has a blog, began posting photos of her meals on Instagram and News.com.au wrote a story on her and things kind of took off from there. She started getting heavy criticism from nutritionists that she was endangering her child's health.
    Six months pregnant woman, 25, branded 'irresponsible' for promoting radical fruit-based diet to her 100,000 Instagram followers

    A naturally slender woman, who is 26 weeks pregnant with her first child, has come under fire for promoting an extreme diet which sees her eat predominantly bananas.

    Loni Jane Anthony, 25, from Australia, reveals on her blog that she eats up to 20 per day, raw and in smoothies, for breakfast, often lunch and sometimes mixes it up by having salad for dinner.

    After opening up about her fruit-based meal plan to news.com.au, commentators deemed the pretty blonde 'irresponsible' and 'narcissistic' - especially as her Instagram account, which boasts almost 100,000 followers, features dozens of 'selfies' showcasing her svelte figure.

    Nutritionist Fiona Hunter examined Ms Jane Anthony's diet as she describes it on her site, and has this to say: 'In my opinion, Lori is deluded if she thinks this diet is healthy. It could not only jeopardise her own health but also that of her unborn baby.'

    'It’s desperately short in protein which is needed for growth and repair of tissues and several key vitamins and minerals including iron, calcium and zinc.
    'Because her diet only provides a small fraction of the calcium she needs – her baby will take calcium from her bones to build his or her bones which will leave Lori a greatly increased risk of osteoporosis later in life.'

    One commentator wrote: 'The human body cannot survive on fruit alone, it is incredibly dangerous for your health not to have variety in your diet.
    'I applaud anyone who makes a positive change in their lifestyle but fad diets like this one will only work for so long.'

    Shona Wilkinson, Head Nutritionist at www.nutricentre.com told Mail Online: 'This isn't a diet I would recommend to a pregnant woman. Protein and fats are important in our diet especially during pregnancy.'

    'The amino acids that make up protein are the building blocks of your body's cells – and of your baby's body as well. It's important to get enough protein throughout your pregnancy, but especially during the second and third trimesters, when your baby is growing the fastest.'

    'Some fats are particularly important during pregnancy because they support your baby's brain and eye development – both before and after birth. Fats also help the placenta and other tissues grow, and studies show that some fats may help prevent and low birth weight.'

    However, Ms Jane Anthony, insists that she has never felt better and has never suffered from eating disorders such as anorexia or bulimia.

    She said she first got into eating fruit after getting sick and tired of her 'party lifestyle' which saw her binge on junk food and alcohol.

    'It wasn’t for weight loss or for a quick fix. I was internally really sick; I was killing myself slowly. If I’d kept living that lifestyle I would have ended up with a disease like cancer or early aging. So giving up that food was really quite simple for me,' she said.

    Originally she adopted the low-fat vegan diet created by Dr Douglas M. Graham known as the 80/10/10, which is popular among athletes.

    It takes its name from its recommended dietary intake: 80per cent fruits and vegetables, ten per cent protein and ten per cent fat.

    Over the past three years Ms Jane Anthony has adapted the plan to suit her tastes - despite many of her friends deeming her 'nuts' for gorging on so many bananas.

    Asked by a fan how many bananas she usually eats per day, the full-time designer and photographer for an action-sports brand responded: 'Depends on the day! The other day I had 15, some days I can have 20. Some days five!'

    Although they are a good source of potassium and fiber, Med-Health.net states that 'most health experts' recommend no more than two bananas per day. It says that overdosing can cause headaches, sleepiness, nausea and tooth decay.

    Miss Jane Anthony, however, appears to be unaffected by these issues.

    While many have criticized her for encouraging young girls to adopt an 'unhealthy' approach to food, others have congratulated her.

    I sorta recall the actress Alicia Silverstone getting similar negative comments about remaining vegan throughout her pregnancy too, but I'm pretty sure she took B12 and other supplements just to make she wasn't deficient in anything.

    To me this all seems a little ott though as pregnant women eat in McDonald's and KFC all the time and you never really hear people saying too much about that and surely there's a lot of crap in that junk which could negatively impact a growing fetus. Yet here's a woman being told she is endangering her child's health (quite damning criticism) and all for having the nerve to follow a plant based diet.

    Are the critics right? Is she deluded? Is her diet irresponsible?


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    It doesnt take much to be deluded and irresponsible these days..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    Very irresponsible to impose your own hippy beliefs on another human like that. She should suck it up and eat like a normal person for her childs sake so it isn't born with a pong of hippy and self righteousness.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 213 ✭✭Davelarson


    I wonder how she'll react when she gives birth to a deformed baby due to her idiotic diet?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    Shes a gobshìte but shes a hot gobshìte....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    Shes a gobshìte but shes a hot gobshìte....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,377 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Well the baby won't be short on potassium.


  • Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Vegans can have perfectly healthy babies.

    A woman eating only fruit and the odd salad, cannot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭Sh1tbag OToole


    Davelarson wrote: »
    I wonder how she'll react when she gives birth to a deformed baby due to her idiotic diet?

    I thought the modern and 'hip' thing to do was to treat unborn foetuses with utter disregard. Dont worry about them and abort if they get in your way or something goes wrong with them. But if its a vegan thats carrying one its a case for moral outrage?

    What about women who had kids back 1000's of years ago in places where there was little or no animals around to eat or milk? Were their babies all deformed? Meat consumption is pretty much at an all time high and even 100 years ago there was way, way less of the stuff ate


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black



    What about women who had kids back 1000's of years ago in places where there was little or no animals around to eat or milk? Were their babies all deformed? Meat consumption is pretty much at an all time high and even 100 years ago there was way, way less of the stuff ate

    You do realise that infant mortality and live birth rates are much better now than 1000years ago?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    I thought the modern and 'hip' thing to do was to treat unborn foetuses with utter disregard. Dont worry about them and abort if they get in your way or something goes wrong with them. But if its a vegan thats carrying one its a case for moral outrage?

    It's when people like this woman abuse a foetus and then bring it into the world where it will growing up suffering the consequences of her decision that people have a problem with.

    But don't let that stop you from your loaded rant.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 213 ✭✭Davelarson


    I thought the modern and 'hip' thing to do was to treat unborn foetuses with utter disregard. Dont worry about them and abort if they get in your way or something goes wrong with them. But if its a vegan thats carrying one its a case for moral outrage?

    What about women who had kids back 1000's of years ago in places where there was little or no animals around to eat or milk? Were their babies all deformed? Meat consumption is pretty much at an all time high and even 100 years ago there was way, way less of the stuff ate

    Well there are people who believe women should be able to get an abortion because the child will be born disabled. Killing disabled people so they won't be a burden? I believe the Nazis had similar ideas...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 401 ✭✭theblaqueguy


    I've plenty of black meat she can eat if she wants to leave her Vegan diet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Mint Aero wrote: »
    Very irresponsible to impose your own hippy beliefs on another human like that.

    There are plenty of people who would say she isn't imposing her beliefs on another human.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Davelarson wrote: »
    I wonder how she'll react when she gives birth to a deformed baby due to her idiotic diet?

    Or a monkey


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Vegans can have perfectly healthy babies.

    A woman eating only fruit and the odd salad, cannot.
    This in a big way. Vegans can meet pretty much all the requirements for good health for them and their kids and would be far better off than the millions of oven chips and chinner dinners with a fag on the side babies born every day. However it can be harder to get the right level of nutrients and IME too many Veggie/Vegan types eschew animal products but don't replace them with veggie alternatives. There are a lot of pasta and biccies veggies out there.
    What about women who had kids back 1000's of years ago in places where there was little or no animals around to eat or milk? Were their babies all deformed? Meat consumption is pretty much at an all time high and even 100 years ago there was way, way less of the stuff ate
    I'd agree meat is at an all time high, but animal protein - save for areas of true famine - was a large part of most cultures diet thousands of years ago. Fish/shellfish, eggs, milk and milk products were very common, even when big game or domestic animals were scarce. Though yea I defo agree with you on the amounts SoT. Take chicken. It was rarely enough consumed back in the day. Why? Well who would be so daft as to eat a chicken when said chicken left alive eating the dirt and worms and insects and crap you threw away was providing you with daily eggs? If and when chicken was eaten it was when said chicken was old and well past egg laying. I recall reading of a 14th century farmer dude who gave names to all his chickens and treasured them for the daily bounty they provided. To him chowing down on Anne his prize laying bird would be tantamount to murder. :D Dead right too. The Maasai measure their wealth in cattle, but rarely eat them, rather they take blood from them and add it to their milk. Sustainable shít right there and if you ever meet one of the old stylee non tourist folks they're damn healthy people on it.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Pixie84


    A vegan diet is one of the healthiest around...look into this before criticizing. A hell of a lot of people have an extremely unhealthy diet even when pregnant yet no one bats an eyelid. Strange how vegans are seen as hippy nut jobs because they care about what they're consuming.

    That being said...this lady isn't varying it as much as she should


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 213 ✭✭Davelarson


    Pixie84 wrote: »
    A vegan diet is one of the healthiest around...look into this before criticizing. A hell of a lot of people have an extremely unhealthy diet even when pregnant yet no one bats an eyelid. Strange how vegans are seen as hippy nut jobs because they care about what they're consuming.

    That being said...this lady isn't varying it as much as she should

    Its healthy as long you're getting your vitamin supplements.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Pixie84


    Davelarson wrote: »
    Its healthy as long you're getting your vitamin supplements.

    Well vitamin B12 is the only one vegans might have problems with...everything else you can fit into your diet easily :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭stimpson


    A nutritionist is a makey uppey title mainly used by quacks like Gillian mc Keith. A dietitian is a qualified health professional who has been educated to degree standard or better.

    My missus has given birth to 2 very healthy babies and shock horror, she doesn't eat meat. Nobody in the maternity hospital batted an eyelid over it as she was obviously healthy and not deficient in any way. If you want to accuse anyone of abuse, look at the skangers outside the Rotunda smoking and drinking cans.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 213 ✭✭Davelarson


    Pixie84 wrote: »
    Well vitamin B12 is the only one vegans might have problems with...everything else you can fit into your diet easily :)

    Exactly. Its fine as long as you're getting your B12 shots.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭johnny-grunge


    I thought the modern and 'hip' thing to do was to treat unborn foetuses with utter disregard. Dont worry about them and abort if they get in your way or something goes wrong with them. But if its a vegan thats carrying one its a case for moral outrage?

    What about women who had kids back 1000's of years ago in places where there was little or no animals around to eat or milk? Were their babies all deformed? Meat consumption is pretty much at an all time high and even 100 years ago there was way, way less of the stuff ate

    I'm sure they had access to fat and protein in some form or another, nuts, eggs, fish etc. Besides, people believed some crazy **** back in the day with regards to health. We know a hell of a lot more now, i.e. a diet based predominately on bananas is not adequate.
    There are plenty of people who would say she isn't imposing her beliefs on another human.

    If she intends to have the child, he/she is going to have to live with whatever shortcomings her ****ty diet leaves it with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    Nothing wrong with maintaining a vegan diet while pregnant as long as you ensure you are consuming enough nutrients. Meat is the richest source of protein but not the only source. I'd be worried about the massive intake of potassium and fruit sugars, as well as the lack of fat. She's deluded. She is just as deluded as pregnant women who live on fast food.

    In my (unpopular) opinion, when you're pregnant, your own taste buds are irrelevant. For just 9 months, ignore your likes/dislikes and just ensure you are taking in enough nutrients to sustain yourself and develop you're baby. C'mon like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    She's not getting half the stuff she needs in that diet but vegans can be very healthy if they're very careful what they eat.



    One thing I'll comment on though as an aside: anyone can call themselves a nutritionist and you don't need any type of qualification to do so. My friend is a dietician and has spent years studying this, so knows what she's talking about. She absolutely loses the plot when so-called nutritionists are passed off as expert opinion, which is very common nowadays (Gillian McKeith, for example).


    Although they're obviously right in this case, I'd always take what they say with a pinch of salt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,114 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    she eats 15-20 bananas a day?!?!?! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,369 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    She isn't a vegan, she's a banana lunatic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    I'm currently studying Nutrition. It's a FETAC level 5, nothing major. But after I complete it, I can call myself a nutritionist and people will listen to me and obey me. Fact. There's a girl in my course who purees all her food and eats it like baby food because she insists it's healthier, better for digestion and more beneficial. She does this for all her meals and guarantee when she is a "nutritionist" when we finish up in May, she will tell people this is the way they should eat. And they'll listen to her because she's a "nutritionist".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭The Dom


    A woman eating only fruit and the odd salad, cannot.

    Well, I don't think you can say "cannot" as people have done it.

    Raw vegans for example only eat fruit, nuts and salad and many of them have documented their pregnancies and produced very healthy children.

    The following woman had two children as a raw vegan:




    Here's one of her children now:



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    She looks perfectly healthy. I would imagine she will have a perfectly healthy baby.

    Sounds like she could do with a little more balance in her diet (that is taking the sensationalist news article as fact) but id imagine many people could do with a little more balance in their diets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,377 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    There's got to be a serious element of BS in those videos. I wouldn't believe stories that a healthy child is surviving only on fruit for a second.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 402 ✭✭The Big Smoke


    She's bananas.


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