I reported a video on Youtube for the first time.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 13-11-2013 01:06PM #1

To give context to the video here it is.

NSFW

This is the only copy of Budd Dwyer's press conference that is known to exist. During the making of "Honest Man", a feature length film about Dwyer's life, I attempted to acquire footage of his entire speech (Just the speech, NOT his suicide) but was denied by every news station in Pennsylvania. Oddly enough his suicide was, and still is, fully available to license from several news archives for a fee.

To me this is a testament to the power of Dwyer's words and a reminder of the continued cowardice by the local media within Pennsylvania.

Kids are supposed to be 13 years of age to watch content hosted on its site and I simply think that is too young an age to be exposed to videos of this nature. I have no issue with this video being hosted on other websites that would cover the 'darker' more 'adult' part of the internet but think Youtube isn't the place for it.

I also find it strange that Youtube will remove videos that have female boobies in a video yet can leave up a video of Miley Cyrus having sex with a giant cannonball. I get this is a separate point but there seems to be a weird line where breasts = banned, yet gyrating naked in a highly sexually charged manner = not banned.

Anybody agree or disagree with this?

wretcheddomain · 13-11-2013 01:08PM

Who are you to tell YouTube what to do?

wazky · 13-11-2013 01:08PM

If you have a problem with your child seeing things they shouldn't on youtube then supervise them on the internet.

Maybe parents should be responsible not the internet?

splashthecash · 13-11-2013 01:09PM

The link doesn't work for me and doesn't seem to point to youtube (or is it just redirecting?)

Matt_Trakker · 13-11-2013 01:10PM

Wait, so you have a problem of a video of someone making a speech?

Plus your link doesn't work.

Also have you ever heard of a firewall? Watch a youtube video on how to set one up so your sheltered kid won't see the anything of the real world.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 13-11-2013 01:13PM

splashthecash wrote: »

The link doesn't work for me and doesn't seem to point to youtube (or is it just redirecting?)

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

Wait, so you have a problem of a video of someone making a speech?

Plus your link doesn't work.

Also have you ever heard of a firewall? Watch a youtube video on how to set one up so your sheltered kid won't see the anything of the real world.

Link works now.

mikom · 13-11-2013 01:15PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Link works now.

Urrgh............. reported to the Mod of Afterhours.

fenris · 13-11-2013 01:17PM

He was thinkin of the chizllers, Joe

Seriously though control your own kids access to the web instead of trying to turn it into sesame street for everybody else. Actually that chap in the bin might scare some one somewhere, so you better report that too.
Report on facebook or YouTube should only be used for genuine problems like dodgy kiddie stuff or suicide pact videos etc. I.e. Where there is actual danger to someone rather that notional potential danger to someone's sensibility, when you use these mechanisms frivolously you tie up resources that could be needed to sort something or in real time.

hfallada · 13-11-2013 01:17PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

To give context to the video here it is.

NSFW and contains graphic real violence.

Kids are supposed to be 13 years of age to watch content hosted on its site and I simply think that is too young an age to be exposed to videos of this nature. I have no issue with this video being hosted on other websites that would cover the 'darker' more 'adult' part of the internet but think Youtube isn't the place for it.

I also find it strange that Youtube will remove videos that have female boobies in a video yet can leave up a video of Miley Cyrus having sex with a giant cannonball. I get this is a separate point but there seems to be a weird line where breasts = banned, yet gyrating naked in a highly sexually charged manner = not banned.

Anybody agree or disagree with this?

There is a thing call free speech and expression. We fortunately live in a country were you can say whatever you want in media without it being censored. But in places like the middle east the media is often censored. Youtube gives you access to news you wont hear.

OP why should your values affect someones access to a video? You might not agree with Miley Cyrus but most twenty somethings see nothing wrong with it. It should be up to the viewer to choose whether or not to view something. If you are afraid of your child seeing something you should have a net nanny or whatever that BS program is.

A racist and often homophobic news story on RTE is going to have a greater negative affect on your childs development , than a pop artist singing in a slutty outfit.

cml387 · 13-11-2013 01:18PM

If that's the video of Bud Dwyer shooting himself, then it's best not to click on the link.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 13-11-2013 01:20PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

Who are you to tell YouTube what to do?

They have a report a video function so I used it, it's the first time I have. I'm not starting a grass roots campaign or a movement involving my newly found organisation to try bring down Youtube as an entity.

wazky wrote: »

If you have a problem with your child seeing things they shouldn't on youtube then supervise them on the internet.

Maybe parents should be responsible not the internet?

Parents protecting their children from bad content on the internet goes beyond what either parties 'responsibility' is in my opinion.

Mint Aero · 13-11-2013 01:21PM

I think the first time I saw that video I was a kid and it was on tv, the news even if I recall correctly, graphic and all. :rolleyes: People are so soft nowadays.

Matt_Trakker · 13-11-2013 01:22PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Link works now.

OK, watched it and while I feel sorry that he killed himself he was obviously plagued with guilt and regret.
The video doesn't show anything graphic.
He gives his final speech and at the end takes out a gun, then the video ends.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 13-11-2013 01:24PM

hfallada wrote: »

There is a thing call free speech and expression. We fortunately live in a country were you can say whatever you want in media without it being censored. But in places like the middle east the media is often censored. Youtube gives you access to news you wont hear.

OP why should your values affect someones access to a video? You might not agree with Miley Cyrus but most twenty somethings see nothing wrong with it. It should be up to the viewer to choose whether or not to view something. If you are afraid of your child seeing something you should have a net nanny or whatever that BS program is.

A racist and often homophobic news story on RTE is going to have a greater negative affect on your childs development , than a pop artist singing in a slutty outfit.

Can you give any examples of RTE being racist and homophobic 'often'?

Cienciano · 13-11-2013 01:25PM

It's a video of a guy making a speech. Says in the description it doesn't contain the shot at the end, it says at the start of the video that it doesn't contain the graphic violence at the end, and if you watch the video, it cuts off before he shoots himself.
Youtube isn't a babysitter

eviltimeban · 13-11-2013 01:25PM

Yeah it doesn't show him actually doing it.

By the way, Kurt Cobain had that press conference on VHS and used to watch it endlessly... apparently.

My name is URL · 13-11-2013 01:26PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

To give context to the video here it is.

NSFW and contains very graphic and real violence.

He doesn't actually shoot himself in that video. It ends when he pulls the gun out of the envelope. What's the problem exactly?

The Budd Dwyer case is unique anyway given that millions of people actually saw it live.. it's no more gruesome than the countless videos of serious car accidents and people being attacked by animals etc on YouTube.

Jarrod · 13-11-2013 01:26PM

I haven't clicked the link but, it being Budd Dwyer, I assume it's when he shot himself. TBH, I've no idea why anyone would want to watch that. Having said that, it's not up to Youtube to parent people's kids for them. If you don't want your kids seeing this stuff then monitor their internet use more closely.

As for that Miley Cyrus video, am I the only one that doesn't consider it to be sexual? Yes, she's naked in it but unless you go in for some pretty obscure 'sexual imagery' or consider nudity in itself to be sexual then I don't really see how it could be considered sexual.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 13-11-2013 01:27PM

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

OK, watched it and while I feel sorry that he killed himself he was obviously plagued with guilt and regret.
The video doesn't show anything graphic.
He gives his final speech and at the end takes out a gun, then the video ends.

I put that up to be fair to the man. There are videos up there that show him actually pulling the trigger. Videos that have 100,000's of views and have been up for years which would strongly indicate Youtube have no issue with them being hosted on their site.

Matt_Trakker · 13-11-2013 01:27PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Link works now.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Can you give any examples of RTE being racist and homophobic 'often'?

I can, the pretty much every decade up to and including the 1970s, then it kinda went down..... very gradually.

Oh and Jimmy McGee, he's pretty famous for his casual racism when commentating on sport.

TheIrishGrover · 13-11-2013 01:28PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Parents protecting their children from bad content on the internet goes beyond what you either parties 'responsibility' is in my opinion.

I'm sorry, I can't understand what you are saying here. Are you saying that it's not a parent's responsibility to protect their child from the Internet?

loveisdivine · 13-11-2013 01:29PM

The video specifically states that it does not contain any graphic images. So what exactly are you getting you're knickers in a twist about?

Matt_Trakker · 13-11-2013 01:29PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

I put that up to be fair to the man. There are videos up there that show him actually pulling the trigger. Videos that have 100,000's of views and have been up for years which would strongly indicate Youtube have no issue with them being hosted on their site.

Oh, well then that's different.
Of course they shouldn't have videos showing someone blowing their brains out.
That's what gore galleries are for.

Not nice places at all.

mutley18 · 13-11-2013 01:32PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

I also find it strange that Youtube will remove videos that have female boobies in a video yet can leave up a video of Miley Cyrus having sex with a giant cannonball.

"I CAME IN LIKE A CAAANNONBALL"

Still works I guess.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 13-11-2013 01:34PM

i hate you op and everybody like you

returnNull · 13-11-2013 01:35PM

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

I put that up to be fair to the man. There are videos up there that show him actually pulling the trigger. Videos that have 100,000's of views and have been up for years which would strongly indicate Youtube have no issue with them being hosted on their site.

maybe re-edit your post and change the tag to SFW because it makes you look like a liveline regular.

Oh and good luck with policing the internet.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 13-11-2013 01:39PM

Matt_Trakker wrote: »

I can, the pretty much every decade up to and including the 1970s, then it kinda went down..... very gradually.

Oh and Jimmy McGee, he's pretty famous for his casual racism when commentating on sport.

Children today are not 'exposed' to 1970's RTE now though are they.

The fact that the worlds largest video web hosting site has no issue with showing extreme, graphic, real violence to a 13 year old is much more worrying than what Jimmy McGee does or doesn't say to be honest.

13-11-2013 01:39PM

I'm more offended by Miley Cyrus tbh.

Also - YouTube has age rated videos, the same as many other places. They can't be held responsible for parents not monitoring their children's activity online correctly.

Khannie · 13-11-2013 01:41PM

cml387 wrote: »

If that's the video of Bud Dwyer shooting himself, then it's best not to click on the link.

There is no shooting in the video. I wasn't aware of this and it is interesting (and sad).

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo · 13-11-2013 01:46PM

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

I'm sorry, I can't understand what you are saying here. Are you saying that it's not a parent's responsibility to protect their child from the Internet?

It's everyone's responsibility to protect children I would have thought, well, anybody that has an interest that is.

I'm not saying parents aren't responsible for their children, just that society has some duty of care. Like not putting advertisements on tv for local swinger spots in between Peppa Pig and Ben and Holly's Little Kingdom. :pac:

Specialun · 13-11-2013 01:46PM

He said boobies

Hehehe

** Runs out of room all red,Giggling like a girl ***

I reported a video on Youtube for the first time.

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