Labour Saving and General Guntering

Muckit · 10-11-2013 06:09PM

renandstimpy wrote: »

there only taking one and a half more inches of space than 2 gates were believe it or not as outside gate fits kinda into the ramp.But you are right sometimes that the inch you need but to be honest i dont really need to wedge trailer as outfarms are only 3 miles away .

id say you probably could have them in such a way to hang on side of trailer handy enough there Muckit

I'm only being picky! Hats off to you, that is an excellent bit of work. Who did you buy the gates off? I have it my head to fit a set of aluminium gates on tractor trailer sometime down the road

Muckit · 10-11-2013 06:15PM

My bit of guntering today was plumbing up new water bowls in slatted shed. No pics, but might stick some up some evening. God I hate brass fittings, such a pain to get them dry, all the walking back and forth to the pump house then to turn on/off main valve :rolleyes::mad: Plumbers tape on the olives and a bit of tightening stopped any weeping, from me and the troughs!

Has anyone set up a system with a main tank and then gravity feed to the drinkers? Supposedly easier on fittings/ trough nozzles etc as less pressure...

reilig · 10-11-2013 06:45PM

Muckit wrote: »

My bit of guntering today was plumbing up new water bowls in slatted shed. No pics, but might stick some up some evening. God I hate brass fittings, such a pain to get them dry, all the walking back and forth to the pump house then to turn on/off main valve :rolleyes::mad: Plumbers tape on the olives and a bit of tightening stopped any weeping, from me and the troughs!

Has anyone set up a system with a main tank and then gravity feed to the drinkers? Supposedly easier on fittings/ trough nozzles etc as less pressure...

What size pipe are ya using Muckit? I hate those olives too. Have the sheds plumbed in 1/2" heavy. That way, with compression fittings, you only need rings and no olives. No tape needed on the threads either when you use rings. I expect that a lot of farmers here use Philmac or equivalent - but I find them very expensive in comparison to compression fittings.

Have 1000l IBCs feeding the drinkers these days. Have JFC drinkers so high or low pressure isn't an issue.

Muckit · 10-11-2013 07:10PM

It's 3/4" running in to the shed and about 18" up the girder, then reduced to 1/2" heavy gauge feeding into the trough.

I still had to use olives, maybe you call these rings? It's the olive the creates the seal. You have to tape them unless your using compound. I find plumbing is one of those pull your hair out jobs. There's no grey area, it's either right or wrong.

Yes philmac are dearer, but there's nothing cheap about brass fittings either. I waaay prefer the philmac as they are fairly idiot proof and you can create a watertight seal with feck all tools if you are in a pinch. They do take up extra space though and so no good in tight spaces!

Have you your IBC water harvesting system up and running. Was just thinking a lad could have a dual system. Put a ball cock half way down the tank, if the gutter don't fill them enough, then the water mains kicks in

reilig · 10-11-2013 07:50PM

Yea, water harvesting is running on one shed. When the tanks go empty, I can turn on the main by just moving the lever - putting a ballcock system into the tanks was over complication for me.

I use these compression fittings on the black heavy duty water pipe 1/2" and never tape them up. If I tape them, they leak :eek:

Worked for a contractor for years and any of the HD pipe fittings that we used for domestic connections were never taped or used compound and all passed pressure tests

Unless you are using steel compression fittings which need to be taped instead of brass ones??

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Muckit wrote: »

It's 3/4" running in to the shed and about 18" up the girder, then reduced to 1/2" heavy gauge feeding into the trough.

I still had to use olives, maybe you call these rings? It's the olive the creates the seal. You have to tape them unless your using compound. I find plumbing is one of those pull your hair out jobs. There's no grey area, it's either right or wrong.

Yes philmac are dearer, but there's nothing cheap about brass fittings either. I waaay prefer the philmac as they are fairly idiot proof and you can create a watertight seal with feck all tools if you are in a pinch. They do take up extra space though and so no good in tight spaces!

Have you your IBC water harvesting system up and running. Was just thinking a lad could have a dual system. Put a ball cock half way down the tank, if the gutter don't fill them enough, then the water mains kicks in

just do it · 10-11-2013 10:23PM

Renandstimpy

Fair deuce to you, nice tidy work. It's those kind of things that annoy me but I just never seem to get around to them :rolleyes:

just do it · 10-11-2013 10:27PM

I feel your pain Muckit. When I started off I used all brass fittings but since then have switched to philmac. Being a bit clumsy at these things I reckon the extra cost of the philmac has been easily offset by a lower water bill. That reminds me, better read the meters in the morning...

renandstimpy · 10-11-2013 11:02PM

Muckit wrote: »

I'm only being picky! Hats off to you, that is an excellent bit of work. Who did you buy the gates off? I have it my head to fit a set of aluminium gates on tractor trailer sometime down the road

Picky is my middle name

and your dead right what ever you do it should work for you .
mulchrone in westport .. hes not cheap but to be honest if one could source the channel and box aluminium id say you could make them handy enough any size youd want... there isnt a lot of making to them . but not sure what the cost of the aluminium would be .

renandstimpy · 10-11-2013 11:06PM

Muckit wrote: »

My bit of guntering today was plumbing up new water bowls in slatted shed. No pics, but might stick some up some evening. God I hate brass fittings, such a pain to get them dry, all the walking back and forth to the pump house then to turn on/off main valve :rolleyes::mad: Plumbers tape on the olives and a bit of tightening stopped any weeping, from me and the troughs!

Has anyone set up a system with a main tank and then gravity feed to the drinkers? Supposedly easier on fittings/ trough nozzles etc as less pressure...

Ya i feel your pain i could never find the happy karma place to be at peace with brass .. its the lazy plastic push in and turn fitting for me ... but brass is better where its going to get a bit of movement from stock .

renandstimpy · 10-11-2013 11:16PM

Muckit wrote: »

Put a ball cock half way down the tank, if the gutter don't fill them enough, then the water mains kicks in

Great idea there Muckit ... when i was doing the teagasc course a couple of years ago , we were brought to an ex dairy farmers setup he had switched to fattening heifers . He connected all his drinking bowls in a loop with a circulating pump connected to a frost stat . At worse case senario if his plastic troughs froze up all he would have to thaw out was the fitting coming in .
one thing though he had the feed pipe very close to the trough that way there was feck all water that was not been circulated.oh and he set bowls to only fill half way during cold spell those keeping them filling more often .

Sharpshooter82 · 27-11-2013 09:16PM

Heres an update on the "Sprocket" as its being refered to now

iverjohnston · 27-11-2013 09:25PM

Good looking job, Sharpshooter. Kidd harvester axle and a pair of loader arms?

moy83 · 27-11-2013 10:49PM

Nice job SS . Would you want a lock on a ram for carrying the weight of the roller on the road ?

Sharpshooter82 · 27-11-2013 11:18PM

moy83 wrote: »

Nice job SS . Would you want a lock on a ram for carrying the weight of the roller on the road ?

theres a check valve on the ram and its a great job

Sharpshooter82 · 27-11-2013 11:19PM

iverjohnston wrote: »

Good looking job, Sharpshooter. Kidd harvester axle and a pair of loader arms?

yeah bang on, My mate donated the old ford loader and he was nearly in tears as the consaw went through it

iverjohnston · 28-11-2013 12:19AM

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

yeah bang on, My mate donated the old ford loader and he was nearly in tears as the consaw went through it

Like watching your daughter get married, and realizing at the reception that the whole family of in-laws are insane

Sharpshooter82 · 28-11-2013 12:21AM

iverjohnston wrote: »

Like watching your daughter get married, and realizing at the reception that the whole family of in-laws are insane

Didn't help that I had a grin on me as it was being done, he says ill never hear the end of it

iverjohnston · 03-12-2013 12:15PM

Here is a little project I have had in the back of my mind for a while ever since I came across the alloy poles in the local scrap metal yard.

renandstimpy · 03-12-2013 12:33PM

iverjohnston wrote: »

Here is a little project I have had in the back of my mind for a while ever since I came across the alloy poles in the local scrap metal yard.

You wont need to go to the gym after using that for a while over your head:D.. very well done ...

Rovi · 03-12-2013 12:37PM

iverjohnston wrote: »

Here is a little project I have had in the back of my mind for a while ever since I came across the alloy poles in the local scrap metal yard.

Don't let the HSA people see it! :eek:

Seriously, don't let anyone other than yourself use it.
You're looking at an insurance/liability nightmare if someone other that the creator of this device does any sort of harm to themselves with it.
Don't let anyone within at least 2 x pole lengths of it in use either.

I'd be wildly unenthusiastic about using such a device, to be honest.

iverjohnston · 03-12-2013 12:42PM

No intention of letting anyone else near it. just for my own use, trimming low overhanging branches around silage fields etc. Once they are done, probably years before needed again. biggest danger would be timber hitting you on the way down, or bouncing back at you when it hits the ground.
Marginally safer than standing on the tractor cab roof, or the digger bucket, however.

renandstimpy · 03-12-2013 12:43PM

Rovi wrote: »

Don't let the HSA people see it! :eek:

Seriously, don't let anyone other than yourself use it.
You're looking at an insurance/liability nightmare if someone other that the creator of this device does any sort of harm to themselves with it.
Don't let anyone within at least 2 x pole lengths of it in use either.

I'd be wildly unenthusiastic about using such a device, to be honest.

would have to agree there

onyerbikepat · 03-12-2013 12:56PM

iverjohnston wrote: »

Here is a little project I have had in the back of my mind for a while ever since I came across the alloy poles in the local scrap metal yard.

Lethal. Put a kill switch on it at least. One that will work in the same way as the one on the saw. Just wire it in parallel with the existing one. One of the golden rules of using a chainsaw is never use it above shoulder height. It's to do with the kickback. Safety first and all that. An accident waiting to happen. No offence but don't even use it yourself. I've being using a saw for over 25 years and I wouldnt touch it.

iverjohnston · 03-12-2013 01:23PM

Put a kill switch on it at least. One that will work in the same way as the one on the saw. Just wire it in parallel with the existing one.

Very good idea, Pat.

bogman_bass · 03-12-2013 01:32PM

you'll find it hard to put the downward pressure on the branch needed to stop the saw bouncing up when you start the chain

Manoffeeling · 03-12-2013 01:47PM

iverjohnston wrote: »

Here is a little project I have had in the back of my mind for a while ever since I came across the alloy poles in the local scrap metal yard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apVR5Htz0K4

Only joking.

hugo29 · 03-12-2013 03:09PM

iverjohnston wrote: »

Here is a little project I have had in the back of my mind for a while ever since I came across the alloy poles in the local scrap metal yard.

book yerself onto dragons den with it

onyerbikepat · 03-12-2013 03:43PM

hugo29 wrote: »

book yerself onto dragons den with it

I got talking to a guy recently that was on Dragon's Den. He was promised money on the show and everything. He laughed when I asked about it. None of the money ever materisalised. He dismissed it all as "nothing but showbizz". Dead sound guy he seemed too.

iverjohnston · 03-12-2013 04:30PM

https://vimeo.com/80886166

Trial run.

Zr105 · 03-12-2013 10:05PM

iverjohnston wrote: »

https://vimeo.com/80886166

Trial run.

PLEASE PLEASE if you are going to continue using that get yourself a hard hat and a visor to keep the saw dust out of your eyes. You only get one set of eyes, and only one life, if you chop a branch and it hits you atleast a hard hat will potentially be some saving.

Bear in mind if a branch hits you it will knock you off balance (if not knock you out) and you will be trying to catch your balance while swinging a full, running chainsaw over your head.

Atleast with a proper strummer style chain saw the engine is at your hands and keeps it balanced, and you should really use the shoulder/harness with them as if you trip it will keep the saw end away from you

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