Nirvana - MTV Unplugged in NY [Full Show]

razorgil · 10-11-2013 12:41AM

moneymad wrote: »

Oh the memories of what it was like in the 90's as a teenager.
FUK YOU LADY GAGA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCsbUSk5-O8

did a serious version of david bowies "the man who sold the world" though

Timmyctc · 10-11-2013 12:42AM

moneymad wrote: »

Oh the memories of what it was like in the 90's as a teenager.
FUK YOU LADY GAGA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCsbUSk5-O8

What has Lady GAGA got to do with it

Irish Guitarist · 10-11-2013 01:15AM

I have that on DVD. I also have Live At Reading and Live!! Tonight! Sold Out!!. They're all great but there's a part on Live!... that shows Kurt Cobain up as being a prick. He's playing Love Buzz live when a security guard tries to stop the audience climbing up on stage. Kurt slaps the security guard over the head with his guitar and his head spouts blood. The security guard pushes him to the floor and is ready to kill him but Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic stop him.

I love Nirvana but that shows how much of a bastard Kurt Cobain could be. I thought the security guard had every right to kick the crap out of him.

What I like about MTV Unplugged is that they're just playing their songs without all that nonsense of breaking instruments, hitting each other and just being morons in general.

I don't see what Lady Gaga has to do with anything by the way.

Slutmonkey57b · 10-11-2013 01:22AM

Bambi wrote: »

A massively over rated band

as for the level of ****ing whining cobain did about stardom nirvana were'nt selling millions of records by some freak accident.

Yeah, lots of bands totally reshaped the industry all over the world by releasing a single album.

In the words of motley crue, "we went into rehab off the back of a worldwide sellout tour and came out with our careers over. What happened? Nevermind was released"

Savoir.Faire · 10-11-2013 01:23AM

I suppose the piece I am posting goes to show that music, and the modern interpretations of it, are not bound by fashion. Good music transcends the societal normalities of the era in which it is produced. Stunning reproduction, if a little 'soft' on the lower sections. Like many things that the Japanese decide to throw their hat into, their national philharmonic is extraordinary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B49N46I39Y

LOTD · 10-11-2013 01:24AM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I have that on DVD. I also have Live At Reading and Live!! Tonight! Sold Out!!. They're all great but there's a part on Live!... that shows Kurt Cobain up as being a prick. He's playing Love Buzz live when a security guard tries to stop the audience climbing up on stage. Kurt slaps the security guard over the head with his guitar and his head spouts blood. The security guard pushes him to the floor and is ready to kill him but Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic stop him.

I love Nirvana but that shows how much of a bastard Kurt Cobain could be. I thought the security guard had every right to kick the crap out of him.

What I like about MTV Unplugged is that they're just playing their songs without all that nonsense of breaking instruments, hitting each other and just being morons in general.

I don't see what Lady Gaga has to do with anything by the way.

Wow take a moment out of a person's life and judge their character, what a crass thing to do. Granted not his shining moment, but it doesn't define him.

What's wrong with smashing their instruments.

BMJD · 10-11-2013 01:30AM

LOTD wrote: »

Did anyone here see Nirvana? I wasn't even one when Nevermind came out, great band started my obsession with music a decade later.

I saw them in the Point in June 1992 (I think!). Massively underwhelming. And that was in the days where you'd be lucky to see 3 or 4 top bands a year.

edit: I also saw Alice in Chains in the SFX in March 1993 and they were incredible

LOTD · 10-11-2013 01:34AM

BMJD wrote: »

I saw them in the Point in June 1992 (I think!). Massively underwhelming. And that was in the days where you'd be lucky to see 3 or 4 top bands a year.

edit: I also saw Alice in Chains in the SFX in March 1993 and they were incredible

Ah crap were they, ah well.

Jerry Cantrell IMO is one of the best guitarist ever.

BMJD · 10-11-2013 01:38AM

LOTD wrote: »

Ah crap were they, ah well.

Jerry Cantrell IMO is one of the best guitarist ever.

Maybe I was expecting too much. This was back in the day of G'n'R and Metallica being on top of their games, the Chili Peppers were around making proper music at the time too. Damn those were the days!

Irish Guitarist · 10-11-2013 01:43AM

LOTD wrote: »

Wow take a moment out of a person's life and judge their character, what a crass thing to do. Granted not his shining moment, but it doesn't define him.

A moment where he assaulted a man and could have killed him. If anyone else hit someone over the head with an object I'd think they were a thug. Just because it's Kurt Cobain doesn't change my opinion.

What's wrong with smashing their instruments.

It's uninteresting, looks juvenile, detracts from the music and is a waste of a perfectly good instrument.

foxinsox · 10-11-2013 01:44AM

LOTD wrote: »

Did anyone here see Nirvana?

Yeah, I saw them in December 93 in San Diego.

Support: Bobcat Goldthwaite, Butthole Surfers and Chokemore.

I loved it, great show. Still listen to Nevermind the odd time when I'm very pissed off or angry or if the neighbours are playing country music!

BMJD · 10-11-2013 01:49AM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

A moment where he assaulted a man and could have killed him. If anyone else hit someone over the head with an object I'd think they were a thug. Just because it's Kurt Cobain doesn't change my opinion.

It's uninteresting, looks juvenile, detracts from the music and is a waste of a perfectly good instrument.

Cobain and Grohl had a bit of a feud going on with Axl Rose at the time, I remember them taking the piss out of him (Axl) because he stopped a show and walked off stage causing a riot because someone in the crowd had a camera and was taking photos of the band (him). They had extra security around who were basically wiping Axl's arse because he was such a primadonna.

Nirvana were poking fun at him a lot at the time, they wanted to show that they didn't give a ****, they did what they wanted on stage.

Stupid but that's what was happening at the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwUVxzOfV3A

stretchdoe · 10-11-2013 01:49AM

This is how it's done.

Nothing against any of the other bands mentioned here but Nirvana/Cobain at their best blew most bands of that or any other era away for intensity/brilliance.

LOTD · 10-11-2013 01:54AM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

A moment where he assaulted a man and could have killed him. If anyone else hit someone over the head with an object I'd think they were a thug. Just because it's Kurt Cobain doesn't change my opinion.

It's uninteresting, looks juvenile, detracts from the music and is a waste of a perfectly good instrument.

Fair enough was stupid and dangerous thing to do, not going to argue that or get into it about somebody I don't know

It doesn't detract from the music, they did it at the end of their set not halfway through a song, rock n roll is juvenile.

Timmyctc · 10-11-2013 01:56AM

Love that

LOTD · 10-11-2013 01:56AM

foxinsox wrote: »

Yeah, I saw them in December 93 in San Diego.

Support: Bobcat Goldthwaite, Butthole Surfers and Chokemore.

I loved it, great show. Still listen to Nevermind the odd time when I'm very pissed off or angry or if the neighbours are playing country music!

Police Academy and Punk

Can Hank Williams and Kurt Cobain not live peacefully side by side

greenflash · 10-11-2013 02:04AM

LOTD wrote: »

Did anyone here see Nirvana? I wasn't even one when Nevermind came out, great band started my obsession with music a decade later.

Twice. Before and after Nevermind was released (91 & 92). Saw Pearl Jam six times on Ten and Vs tours. Alice in Chains supported by Screaming Trees in 92 was as good as any of those. Caught Smashing Pumpkins twice around the time of Gish. Throw in Mudhoney, Sonic Youth, Faith No More, Dinosaur Jr, Lemonheads, Buffalo Tom, Midway Still, Flaming Lips, the fledgling Mercury Rev, Ride and some crowd called The Pixies and you don't realise until twenty years later just how good it was back then. I feel sorry for kids growing up with reality bollocks and boy bands.

Super-Rush · 10-11-2013 02:14AM

Ah, one half of the soundtrack to my teenage years.

I got it one Christmas on tape along with an LL Cool J album.

Lone Stone · 10-11-2013 02:18AM

Aic unpluged was much better and depresing me old layne r.i.p

10-11-2013 02:22AM

Timmyctc wrote: »

What has Lady GAGA got to do with it

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

I don't see what Lady Gaga has to do with anything by the way.

Because she's commercially successful, therefore making her an easy target for music nostalgia fans to direct their ire at when they moan about there being no good music today. Which I find odd considering she's one of the few mainstream pop stars out there now who's largely built her career/image by herself and who was both doing live performances and writing songs for others before she was ever famous. Love her or hate her, she's the wrong person to be blame for the supposed "state of the music industry today". :rolleyes:

Oh and Nirvana were good but very much overrated (just my opinion though)

The Diabolical Monocle · 10-11-2013 02:25AM

Ah yes, Artsy unplugged acoustic sets, I got the vinyl before everyone else got into it, look I've got the goatee to prove it, but you wouldn't understand, you don't wear skinny jeans.

1 fair-trade peruvian lemon peach decaf please ....(cycles off on retro recycled hemp bicycle bought in Kashmir)

Untouchable Peasant · 10-11-2013 02:30AM

Back in '91 went to see Sonic Youth out in Dun Laoghaire.

Never heard of the support band and everyone was saying they weren't up to much anyway.

So we just jumped the railings across the road and went underrage drinking in the field instead.

Kinda regret that now.

nacho libre · 10-11-2013 02:31AM

The Diabolical Monocle, this is for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzWqP9s_EOA

LOTD · 10-11-2013 02:41AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Because she's commercially successful, therefore making her an easy target for music nostalgia fans to direct their ire at when they moan about there being no good music today. Which I find odd considering she's one of the few mainstream pop stars out there now who's largely built her career/image by herself and who was both doing live performances and writing songs for others before she was ever famous. Love her or hate her, she's the wrong person to be blame for the supposed "state of the music industry today". :rolleyes:

Oh and Nirvana were good but very much overrated (just my opinion though)

I can't stand Lady Gaga, she is one of these type of musician to the point the music is almost an after taught, but maybe this is more a media thing. One thing in particular I find with popstars now, it's like buy my album and while your at it buy my perfume etc etc

In fairness you can't blame one person about the state of music, there is great music out there regardless if it gets played on radio or not. This goes back to my earlier comment that rock n roll is juvenile, there is some 14 year old at the moment into some artist the same way a lot of us were into Nirvana, just because you don't like or get it doesn't mean it's bad.

Kersh · 10-11-2013 02:59AM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

A moment where he assaulted a man and could have killed him. If anyone else hit someone over the head with an object I'd think they were a thug. Just because it's Kurt Cobain doesn't change my opinion.

It's uninteresting, looks juvenile, detracts from the music and is a waste of a perfectly good instrument.

Lets not get too carried away with the whole one sided assault thing.

Its a well documented story in a lot of books written.

Cobain damaged the monitor (in the background with the pallet on it for protection) earlier in the gig that belonged to the bouncer (or a friend of his), when Cobain jumped into the crowd, the bouncer took his chance and starts pulling at and pushing Cobain, and got a few proper goes at him.

Cobain cracks him with the guitar in retaliation.

Here's the vid , 2:10 is where it all kicks off.

Anyhow, unplugged was a great set

sadie06 · 10-11-2013 03:43AM

greenflash wrote: »

Twice. Before and after Nevermind was released (91 & 92). Saw Pearl Jam six times on Ten and Vs tours. Alice in Chains supported by Screaming Trees in 92 was as good as any of those. Caught Smashing Pumpkins twice around the time of Gish. Throw in Mudhoney, Sonic Youth, Faith No More, Dinosaur Jr, Lemonheads, Buffalo Tom, Midway Still, Flaming Lips, the fledgling Mercury Rev, Ride and some crowd called The Pixies and you don't realise until twenty years later just how good it was back then. I feel sorry for kids growing up with reality bollocks and boy bands.

I thought I could look back on my hardcore gig going days with pride, but you just made me feel quite jealous! I never got to see Nirvana, but love the intensity that fired their music.

On the subject of Unplugged, it is still attracting new fans to their music, the latest one being my 67 year old mother! She heard a radio interview with Kurt Cobain recently and loved it, and asked me to recommend an album. Off she toddled into Tower Records to get MTV Unplugged and she thinks it's great!

nelly17 · 10-11-2013 09:53AM

AIC unplugged was a bit special all right I dont think they had played together for a number of years (it might be 3) up to that point, Layne Staley was clearly suffering from his addiction during the performance.

BMJD · 10-11-2013 10:02AM

nelly17 wrote: »

AIC unplugged was a bit special all right I dont think they had played together for a number of years (it might be 3) up to that point, Layne Staley was clearly suffering from his addiction during the performance.

I know it's morbid but Layne's condition added to it, it was his last hurrah I suppose. Apparently the gloves were to cover up all the needle marks on his hands. His death was the first and only time I cried over a "celebrity" death, so utterly depressing.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 10-11-2013 10:08AM

nelly17 wrote: »

AIC unplugged was a bit special all right I dont think they had played together for a number of years (it might be 3) up to that point, Layne Staley was clearly suffering from his addiction during the performance.

They hadn't played in over a year anyway, Staley co founded Mad Season in 95 with Pearl Jams Mike McCready.

He was a full blown heroin addict at the time of the unplugged in 96 but Cantrell noted in later interviews that he didn't feel Staley was under any influence on that night. He'd been looking forward to this gig, remember Cantrell later made the call to pull Chains from the KISS tour when Layne got really fcuked up.

I thought he gave sublime performance that night, there's nowhere to hide when songs are stripped down to acoustic level.

BMJD · 10-11-2013 10:09AM

nacho libre wrote: »

The Diabolical Monocle, this is for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzWqP9s_EOA

I saw and met them in 1995 when they opened for Machine Head in the SFX, I had never heard of them before that but I remember thinking that they were something special :cool:

Nirvana - MTV Unplugged in NY [Full Show]

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