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Are we alone?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    They're out there. Somewhere...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭masti123


    We have already been contacted many times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    G A F F C

    B♭ C A♭ A♭ E♭

    Hello?


    hello


    hello


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    Muise... wrote: »
    G A F F C

    B♭ C A♭ A♭ E♭

    Hello?


    hello


    hello

    Is there anybody out there......?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Fat Nav


    The Truth is out there :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Muise... wrote: »
    G A F F C

    B♭ C A♭ A♭ E♭

    Hello?


    hello


    hello
    WWAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPP!!!



    Sorry. So, so sorry.

    *Jesus that ad is FOURTEEN years old!?
    **JESUS, and Bud-weis-er frogs are EIGHTEEN years old!? WHAT THE F!%@!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    The old hanging ****.

    You cant beat it
    I call it a hank!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Baked.noodle


    Two billion planets in our galaxy may be suitable for life
    Our galaxy probably contains at least two billion planets that, like Earth, have liquid water on their surfaces and orbit around their parent stars in the "habitable zone" for life. The nearest, according to astronomers, could be a mere 12 light years away.

    A new study, published on Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, suggests that Earth-like planets capable of supporting life are far more common than previously thought. Using measurements from Nasa's Kepler space observatory, scientists led by Erik Petigura at the University of California, Berkeley, estimated that 22% of our galaxy's sun-like stars have rocky planets circling them in the zone where they get roughly the same amount of light energy as Earth receives from the sun. There are around 100bn stars in our galaxy, of which 10% are like the sun.

    So far Kepler has studied more than 150,000 stars and identified more than 3,000 candidate planets, but many of these are "gas giants", similar to Jupiter, that orbit close to their parent stars. If there is life out there, it is far more likely to have evolved on rocky planets with liquid water on their surfaces, similar to Earth.

    To get their results, Petigura's team looked for planets in Kepler data that had a radius up to double that of Earth. They searched for planets that orbited far enough from their star that liquid water would not evaporate, but not so far that the water would all freeze.

    Subhanjoy Mohanty, an astrophysicist at Imperial College London who was not involved with the study, said: "This is the first estimate of the frequency of Earth-like planets around sun-like stars, in orbits large enough to lie in the habitable zone of their stars. The finding that roughly one in five sun-like stars may host such planets is an incredibly important one, probably exceeding the expectations of most cautious astronomers."

    He added that the latest analysis increased the chances that there might be life somewhere among the stars. "Previous analyses of Kepler data had shown that red dwarfs – the most common type of star in the galaxy, making up about 80% of the stellar population – very frequently harbour Earth-size planets, including in their habitable zones. This new study shows that the same is true around stars more like our own sun. This is certainly an added impetus for planned future missions which will study the atmospheres of these potentially habitable planets, enabling us to investigate whether they are in fact habitable or not, and also whether their atmospheres show actual biosignatures of existing life."

    Nasa also announced on Monday that the Kepler probe would be given a new lease of life, following fears that it would have to end its mission after only four years in space. In May 2013, scientists discovered that one of the gyroscopic wheels – known as "reaction wheels" – that kept the probe pointing in the right direction had stopped working and, try as they might, Nasa engineers could not restart it. Unable to point itself at the stars with any accuracy, the probe could no longer be used to collect data about the position of new exoplanets.

    But it looks as though there could be a solution that involves reorienting the probe to look along the plane of the galaxy, which will allow it to remain stable with only two of its reaction wheels working. "The old saying 'necessity is the mother of invention' has rung true here, with engineers and scientists from Nasa and the spacecraft manufacturers having figured out this way to – we hope – recover much of the performance we thought we had lost. We are very excited," said Bill Chaplin, an astrophysicist at the University of Birmingham in the UK.

    If all goes well, the new Kepler mission – dubbed "K2" – will look for planets around smaller stars than the sun, and will also study the stars themselves. "There are a wealth of fantastically interesting targets for astrophysics that can be observed in the ecliptic plane, which were not accessible in the original Kepler field, notably brighter clusters of stars – where the common origins and distances to these stars make the clusters excellent laboratories for testing our understanding of stars – and young, star-forming regions," said Chaplin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    F1ngers wrote: »
    I think, in the 6,000 years that the universe has been around, it would be very naive of us to believe that we are alone.

    This post deserves more love!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    F1ngers wrote: »
    I think, in the 6,000 years that the universe has been around, it would be very naive of us to believe that we are alone.



    Are you saying...that dinosaur bones... are fake?


    <insert Keanu Reeves scared face meme>


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Sorry. So, so sorry.

    *Jesus that ad is FOURTEEN years old!?
    **JESUS, and Bud-weis-er frogs are EIGHTEEN years old!? WHAT THE F!%@!?

    light years, baby, light years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    WTF is up with the op, theres another ejit over in the farming forum wanting wet peat to send to his aunt in the US to clear her eczema and he has only a few posts as well :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    Life = finite

    number of planets = infinite

    Finite / infinite = 0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    Life = finite

    number of planets = infinite

    Finite / infinite = 0


    Infinite number of planets?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Imagine sitting alone in a remote cottage in the wilds of Mayo with the electricity on the blink wondering if there's some dogging going on somewhere in Rio.

    There probably is but you'll never know about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    It's statistically likely that we are not alone, you'd want to be pretty narrow minded to think otherwise.
    Whether or not we've been visited already is another question.

    Putting my pedant hat on for a second (who am I kidding, I sleep in it), you can't really say this. You can't draw information from statistics with a sample size of one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    Infinite number of planets?

    Infinity is a relative concept not a number :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    WTF is up with the op, theres another ejit over in the farming forum wanting wet peat to send to his aunt in the US to clear her eczema and he has only a few posts as well :mad:

    Are you suggesting he's
    an alien
    ??? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    Infinity is a relative concept not a number :)


    Or it is a number greater than any assignable quantity ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

    Doulas Adams


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 326 ✭✭Savoir.Faire


    I have little interest in the more advanced probings into the concepts surrounding metaphysics and the great 'who we are' debates. It seems to have been placed on the backburner in general academic circles at the moment.
    It's a dense subject, and most online debates invariably involve a race to the bottom amongst boilerplate atheists and religious fundamentals.
    Modern analytical philosophy needs a Bertrand Russell to reignite the debate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    Are you saying...that dinosaur bones... are fake?


    <insert Keanu Reeves scared face meme>

    As Christopher debunked the creationism-plus-dinosaurs stuff in the Sopranos,

    "Nah I don't buy it, the Bible says the Garden of Eden was a paradise, right, but if T-Rex was there, nah, they'd a been runnin' all the time..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    It is not known if the Universe is infinite though, say you take a flat sheet of paper, and that paper is forever expanding, you could say that it is infinite space on the flat surface, but take that same piece of paper roll it up and connect the ends to make a torus, think a donut shape, the surface is flat but the space is now not infinite.

    That's just one theory.

    Another I've heard: say you have an infinite amount of petrol and you drive around the earth, you'll never reach the end but it's not infinite, now think of our universe as a bubble, our galaxy is a spec of dust on the bubble, like the earth you could go around the universe but never reach the end, yet it is not infinite. The bubble could be expanding in volume making galaxies further apart but the surface space is still finite.

    This is the multiverse theory I believe, and it's speculated that there are plenty of these "bubble" universes on different planes, so we aren't the only universe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,297 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Muise... wrote: »
    Are you suggesting he's
    an alien
    ??? :eek:
    No he's a
    drunk alien
    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    On the distance issue:

    In the 1997 science-fiction film Event Horizon, the character played by actor Sam Neill explains the formerly arcane physical concept of a singularity. He takes a sheet of paper and makes two holes in it, then he folds the sheet until the holes meet exactly. Pushing a pen through the aperture he tells the other characters that the shortest distance between two points is zero. This simple demonstration vividly contradicts both Euclid, whose axiom that the shortest distance between two points is a straight line is proverbial, at least in boxing terms, and Einstein, whose curved space overthrew such common sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭laoisforliam




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭Kersh


    Chances are we are not alone, and we would be very lucky to come into contact with intelligent life out there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Putting my pedant hat on for a second (who am I kidding, I sleep in it), you can't really say this. You can't draw information from statistics with a sample size of one.

    Yes. Nobody knows how statistically likely life - to begin with - is on any one planet. And as for intelligent life we know that's rare on earth. We can also make an educated guess that the galaxy doesn't have much intelligent life. However the universe is a whole different matter.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,425 ✭✭✭FearDark


    Sure isn't god out there somewhere

    Not even a slight chance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    What the fock have people being smoking the last few nights?! More importantly can I have some.

    Thread and replies have been off the wall. It's like the AH of old.

    No OP we are not alone, you have obviously never seen Men In Black.


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